Shin'Ar
05-14-2012, 11:55 PM
The following is what the moderators have advised me to pen into thought in an attempt to avoid any further breaching of the forum guidelines. I apologize for my inability to grasp the methods and means of being able to profess my thoughts and passions without breaking rules of community forum. I think the moderators now understand after much deliberation with me that my intentions are not maliciously rebellious of rules, but that I am simply not able to express myself in ways that conform to such rules.
Their solution has been that I open a thread where discussion of self-identity and choice can be expressed in one place, where from the beginning of the thread it is made clear that I am not trying to preach or proselytize, or to offend or recruit.
From here on, it is established that any terminology or symbolism I may use should be considered nothing more than my humble opinion and my unprofessional way of expressing my thoughts and speculations. Having established that understanding, I will try to avoid bringing this train of thought into any other threads which may make it appear as proselytizing. With this in mind I now speak to you All, not with an attitude of superior instruction, but of my own speculations and thought, which I hope will incite your own reflections and responses to the issues that arise from the sharing of various understandings and points of view.
Brothers and Sisters,
As much as it may seem to us here that there are many humans awakening to reality, it only seems this way because we are able to communicate and gather via the amazing opportunity the internet affords. In recently watching some of the early interviews of Carla and Don, it was obvious that what they were venturing into was not what the rest of the ‘normal’ world would consider acceptable. And even though, as Carla often pointed out, what they were experimenting with were ancient concepts, the world at large is alienated from them and uncomfortable with them.
We should remember that there are billions of people that continue on the right hand path and live their lives in traditional and religious experiences that are not even close to being able to grasp the concepts that we so readily comprehend.
In our gathering here, we share understanding and speculation of things that were once considered occult and fantastic. Were scorned by science and educated realms. Were demonized by traditions. The things we share together seem to be so natural and logical to us that we have forgotten the taboo and the mysticism. We speak of the One, and bind physics and religion together in ways long forgotten to civilization.
We speak casually of things vastly spectacular and astronomical.
It is with this consideration that I ask you all to remember that when we speak of ourselves as being ‘the Creator’ we should try to comprehend the true extremity of such thought, and absorb its reality in a way that enables us to say it with meaning instead of apathy. And I do not point to any one when I say this, I merely point out that the truth which we speak is monumental and should not be spoken so casually that its depth is not realized by those who try to grasp it.
One of the things I have noticed in the interviews with Carla and Don is their visible discomfort in making public what they had experienced. They ‘knew’ something that was not casual. They were in awe of what they had experienced. And they knew it would not be gracefully received, but the import of their message was so great that their own comfort was not a priority. But watching them one could see that they believed every single thing they spoke, and more, they shared in that experience.
How many of us really understand the enormity of what it means when we say , “we are One, or, “ we are the Creator” ?
Are you? Are you really going to sit there at your computer and try to tell us that you are the Creator of the universe?
If you are, then let me suggest that you might want to take such a declaration with a little more import.
You are saying that you, the reader of this post, are the one who created the universe and all that exists. Is that right? Well now, you are an extremely powerful and almighty character, aren’t you?
How do we, as mere humans, comprehend such depth of speculation, and how do we possibly come to terms with matters that defy our comprehension? There is only one way that this becomes possible and it is what the ancients have been telling us for thousands of years.
It is the treasure that one finds in the activation of the kundalini. It is the awakening of the ‘Serpent Goddess within’ that enables our ability to see with eyes that are not attached to the physical; to see through her eyes. ‘The eyes of a Stranger.’
When the Serpent ascends the Tree of Life, climbing the spine to reach the Higher Being, activating divine revelation of the All, one begins to see through her eyes and realize that the form they vibrate as has many frequencies.
It is the reward for the casting aside of the temporary to put on the armor of infinity; the result of higher vibration.
One must discover the divinity within their true nature. Until then they remain trapped in the delusion of individual identity. The Serpent Goddess sleeps deep within the Tree, waiting.
One must come to realize that they are a part of a ‘process’ that has been going on for a very long time and that they cannot place themselves at any particular point on that timeline as an individual aspect of it, without trying to separate something that cannot be separated.
An ongoing process cannot be separated from itself as long as it is continuing. Therefore what we perceive as individual aspects of it is only perception from one viewpoint, and not some separate process.
This is the human reality. The human ‘being’. Not being as in entity, but being as in process.
The human is not an individual entity. It is a process taking place, being, fulfilling its purpose.
When the human can look in the mirror and see there the ‘eyes of a stranger’, it can begin to understand how it is not an individual entity.
But we don’t see the eyes of a stranger, do we. We see what we have thought to be the individual we have supposed we are from birth, and the process of our life from then on. To see the eyes of a stranger we would have to deny that reflection we have known all our life.
This is the veil. The veil is the reflection in the mirror; the familiarity. The Familiar. Plato’s shadow people. The dance of the Wayang into descendance, from which we need to be rescued. It is the crow that comes into our home which we feel the need to chase away.
This is what is pulled over our eyes every time we look into our reflection and see what we imagine to be an individual, instead of the Creator.
And it is this individual that keeps us from understanding the true process that has been going on since day one.
If we could look in the mirror and we could see through the eyes of that crow we would see the energy field, the radio waves, the gamma rays, the electromagnetic field, the sacred geometry, the vibration and the constantly changing frequency. We would not see the image of an individual but we would see a process taking place. We would see a trillion thought processes interacting with each other. We would see Light expanding into darkness, and darkness becoming Light in the process. We would see the One Consciousness of the All.
But we do not see the reality, instead we see the delusion. And this is why we really don’t understand the depth of what it means when we try to relate to ourselves as the Creator. We are trying to make the Creator into an individual, a being similar to what we are. An individual entity.
And it is natural for us to do this because it is all we know. We comprehend at the levels of experience that we know. How could we do otherwise?
But so long as the human tries to separate God into an individual entity, establish a process that leads into a creation, and then toss in their own individual aspect of that, they will never be able to recognize the One through the eyes of a stranger.
When the Source became aware and made that first thought, it did not recognize that thought as a part of itself. We are told that the light and dark were unable to comprehend each other. The polarity was looking into the eyes of a stranger, and yet they were one in the same. Not one entity, but one process. The Divine Process born in the effort from both sides of the mirror to comprehend the other self.
The human is the continuing aspect of that Divine Process. Consciousness expanding into unknown possibilities. Mystery.
The human is not going to suddenly awaken and become the creator and start making planets. No human is going to suddenly become God. This is not what is meant by discovering the divinity within. This is not what is meant by being One with God. No individual human alone is the creator; humanity is the creator. Humanity as a whole, as divine consciousness ‘being’ what it is in the divine process. No single human identity is going to ascend to become the creator. It cannot, because the human identity is an delusion, and an illusion cannot become something.
A process cannot become the Creator, it is the action of the Creator. The Goddess cannot become God. The Process cannot become the Source. The sound cannot become the mouth from which it proceeds. The view cannot become the Eye that observes it. The human cannot become the God that thinks it. The human is thought process taking place and continuing. We are the action between the Source and the creation that results from that action.
This is the One. None can be separated from the other. And yet none can be only the other. It is this divine blending of the All, and the individual components being able to transform into other components of the All, which they Ancients have called alchemy. It is the understanding of how different forms can be transformed that they studied as Sacred Geometry.
Creator/Spirit=thought/process/human/matter=creation
True identity/creator/spirit= process/human/being/consciousness= matter/creation/stranger/unknown/mystery
Matter will transform back into spirit by reversing the equation and following the same process back to its origin. The alchemical equation of lead into gold is the reverse of this truth where matter is transformed into spirit once again.
Creation=process=creator is spirit into matter
Creation= process = Creator is matter into spirit, lead into gold as it were.
If I knew of an equation that would prove the condensing of sound into matter I would place it here.
When the human can place themselves in the midst of this equation and realize the delusion of identity, they would then finally and truly know their true self and realize their divinity.
Until then we are creatures of our senses and our experiences, and identity and individuality are how we perceive our interaction with creation. And because of that limitation we have great difficulty in understanding the true character of the One and where we fit into it. We continue to think of ourselves as individual, even as we try to comprehend it as One, and superimpose that mistaken identity to our perception of our self as Creator.
It is my understanding that true realization of one’s divinity comes when one realizes that they are not an entity, but a ‘being’; a divine process.
We do not suddenly ascend and become God. We ascend into higher being and higher understanding. We ascend into the next stages that awareness of the Divine Process enables. In ignorance of the divine process and truth we slowly evolve into higher understanding. This is one stage of the long process of the evolution of ‘being’. Once awareness is achieved we enter into another stage of being. With awareness comes an increase in the frequency of our vibration and our field of consciousness literally transforms just like sound can alter the shape of crystal. We may not even realize this in our physical state, but our consciousness evolves whether our physical is aware of it or not.
The process of our attaining higher being may not result in instant physical transformation, but that is not the goal or purpose. The purpose is found in our experiencing the path to higher being and reaching it. As part of the divine process of being, our part is to evolve into higher being from lower being, and in this temporary physical aspect of that process our consciousness experiences this being as a human experience. Human on the path to transcending matter and transforming into the spirit from which it spawned. From lead into gold. From dense crystallized state into highly vibrating frequency.
In human form we will not realize this transformation. In consciousness as part of the divine process, it happens as naturally as breath expels from our lungs. Awareness of the natural process is that which the consciousness ever seeks. The possibility of the unknown stranger is what it constantly chases.
Can we realize such a transformation and experience some aspect of the metaphysical while we are still caught up in this physical part of the process of being? Of course. Just as higher vibration can alter form of matter so also can our physical state be altered. Will it be a sudden permanence removing us from our physical state of being? The ancients seem to teach us that all is possible. But if such has occurred it remains a secret. I think that with such higher realization and awareness also comes the understanding that certain truth is not appropriate for those too immature of consciousness to grasp it, and so those that attain it and enter into higher being take the secret with them to be relayed to us in slower vibrations more in synch with our own state of being.
The Ancients called man “Being God”. Academic thought changed that to “human being”. In ignorance of the reality of both God and human, spirit and matter, the guts of the divine equation was dissected and the truth of ‘Being’ was lost.
There is One God, one thought process, and one resulting creation. It cannot be separated or individualized from its reality. Each leads to the other and is bound to the other as One. This is what I believe to be the Law of One. This is what Don and Carla discovered from higher beings.
This is the understanding of my speculation based upon the depth of my experience. And in voicing my thoughts I share them with others which will find agreement and elaboration, and also contradiction and disagreement based upon the depth of their experiences. But without this sharing of thoughts we would be breaching the very design of creation, for The All is based upon the sharing of experience and interaction of various experiences with each other.
All of these various experiences are had within the depths of the Great Process and become stored experience; memory. Just as we recall the experiences of this one short experience and think it is all stored in our brain, the All has collected the vastness of experience from infinity to infinity. What we perceive to be our life and identity is simply a minute aspect of those vast memories and experiences stored within the All. We are the microcosm within the macrocosm, fully attached to the continuing Process. We are the Process taking place.
As we sit together like birds on the branch of the Tree of Life, we look at each other as individuals when we are really just two aspects of One great Process. The real stranger is not the one we sit next to, but the one we sit inside of that we think we know.
To think we know what even The Infinity still chases after in curiosity is simply the immature intelligence of creation defiantly trying to anchor the unstoppable chariot of Divine Thought. But with every thought a new possibility is born, and with it a new Mystery to catch. The Mystery of Infinity, from which the All was spawned.
As you sit there, this is the Process of your ‘being’, and the Mystery which you shall never catch. We have three choices. To climb up, climb down, or remain where we are. And from top to bottom infinity remains out of reach. On the Tree of Life one can never find the seed, nor the highest twig of new growth. The seed remains the Truth of origin lost in infinite time. The tip renews itself with every thought of reaching it.
It is how we define the direction, and the direction we choose to move toward, that our aspect of creation adds to the All. Our definitions are subjective to our perceptions, our experience is subjective to our definition and understanding, but the Divine process continues regardless. It remains the eyes of a stranger.
So for the sake of enabling my thoughts on STS and polarity to be discussed without encroaching on the territory of proselytizing, any further thought I would like to make will be added to this thread. It will not be for pointing fingers or sorting into groups. It will not be warning of what I might perceive to be dangerous. It will be strictly for professing one’s thoughts and responses to the thoughts of others with regard to the various paths we choose to walk.
Above I have made my base philosophy as clear as I can. All should know by this exactly where I am coming from in any subsequent replies in this thread. My understanding of collective consciousness, zero point field or whatever other terminology one wants to apply to the One Consciousness, is detailed above.
So I ask anyone interested in discussing under these terms,
“Why would one deliberately choose to experiment with negative energies, decreasing the frequency of their vibrations, and seek to gratify their physical self. If they understand that the physical self they are exploring is a delusion?”
and
"Why would one want to continue to experience the continuation of further reincarnation, when they have already been doing so for countless lifetimes, instead of trying to use any opportunity to free oneself from further reincarnations, to evolve into a higher state of being?"
These seem to be the questions that I would want to ask anyone in discussion about their choice to explore service to self.
Their solution has been that I open a thread where discussion of self-identity and choice can be expressed in one place, where from the beginning of the thread it is made clear that I am not trying to preach or proselytize, or to offend or recruit.
From here on, it is established that any terminology or symbolism I may use should be considered nothing more than my humble opinion and my unprofessional way of expressing my thoughts and speculations. Having established that understanding, I will try to avoid bringing this train of thought into any other threads which may make it appear as proselytizing. With this in mind I now speak to you All, not with an attitude of superior instruction, but of my own speculations and thought, which I hope will incite your own reflections and responses to the issues that arise from the sharing of various understandings and points of view.
Brothers and Sisters,
As much as it may seem to us here that there are many humans awakening to reality, it only seems this way because we are able to communicate and gather via the amazing opportunity the internet affords. In recently watching some of the early interviews of Carla and Don, it was obvious that what they were venturing into was not what the rest of the ‘normal’ world would consider acceptable. And even though, as Carla often pointed out, what they were experimenting with were ancient concepts, the world at large is alienated from them and uncomfortable with them.
We should remember that there are billions of people that continue on the right hand path and live their lives in traditional and religious experiences that are not even close to being able to grasp the concepts that we so readily comprehend.
In our gathering here, we share understanding and speculation of things that were once considered occult and fantastic. Were scorned by science and educated realms. Were demonized by traditions. The things we share together seem to be so natural and logical to us that we have forgotten the taboo and the mysticism. We speak of the One, and bind physics and religion together in ways long forgotten to civilization.
We speak casually of things vastly spectacular and astronomical.
It is with this consideration that I ask you all to remember that when we speak of ourselves as being ‘the Creator’ we should try to comprehend the true extremity of such thought, and absorb its reality in a way that enables us to say it with meaning instead of apathy. And I do not point to any one when I say this, I merely point out that the truth which we speak is monumental and should not be spoken so casually that its depth is not realized by those who try to grasp it.
One of the things I have noticed in the interviews with Carla and Don is their visible discomfort in making public what they had experienced. They ‘knew’ something that was not casual. They were in awe of what they had experienced. And they knew it would not be gracefully received, but the import of their message was so great that their own comfort was not a priority. But watching them one could see that they believed every single thing they spoke, and more, they shared in that experience.
How many of us really understand the enormity of what it means when we say , “we are One, or, “ we are the Creator” ?
Are you? Are you really going to sit there at your computer and try to tell us that you are the Creator of the universe?
If you are, then let me suggest that you might want to take such a declaration with a little more import.
You are saying that you, the reader of this post, are the one who created the universe and all that exists. Is that right? Well now, you are an extremely powerful and almighty character, aren’t you?
How do we, as mere humans, comprehend such depth of speculation, and how do we possibly come to terms with matters that defy our comprehension? There is only one way that this becomes possible and it is what the ancients have been telling us for thousands of years.
It is the treasure that one finds in the activation of the kundalini. It is the awakening of the ‘Serpent Goddess within’ that enables our ability to see with eyes that are not attached to the physical; to see through her eyes. ‘The eyes of a Stranger.’
When the Serpent ascends the Tree of Life, climbing the spine to reach the Higher Being, activating divine revelation of the All, one begins to see through her eyes and realize that the form they vibrate as has many frequencies.
It is the reward for the casting aside of the temporary to put on the armor of infinity; the result of higher vibration.
One must discover the divinity within their true nature. Until then they remain trapped in the delusion of individual identity. The Serpent Goddess sleeps deep within the Tree, waiting.
One must come to realize that they are a part of a ‘process’ that has been going on for a very long time and that they cannot place themselves at any particular point on that timeline as an individual aspect of it, without trying to separate something that cannot be separated.
An ongoing process cannot be separated from itself as long as it is continuing. Therefore what we perceive as individual aspects of it is only perception from one viewpoint, and not some separate process.
This is the human reality. The human ‘being’. Not being as in entity, but being as in process.
The human is not an individual entity. It is a process taking place, being, fulfilling its purpose.
When the human can look in the mirror and see there the ‘eyes of a stranger’, it can begin to understand how it is not an individual entity.
But we don’t see the eyes of a stranger, do we. We see what we have thought to be the individual we have supposed we are from birth, and the process of our life from then on. To see the eyes of a stranger we would have to deny that reflection we have known all our life.
This is the veil. The veil is the reflection in the mirror; the familiarity. The Familiar. Plato’s shadow people. The dance of the Wayang into descendance, from which we need to be rescued. It is the crow that comes into our home which we feel the need to chase away.
This is what is pulled over our eyes every time we look into our reflection and see what we imagine to be an individual, instead of the Creator.
And it is this individual that keeps us from understanding the true process that has been going on since day one.
If we could look in the mirror and we could see through the eyes of that crow we would see the energy field, the radio waves, the gamma rays, the electromagnetic field, the sacred geometry, the vibration and the constantly changing frequency. We would not see the image of an individual but we would see a process taking place. We would see a trillion thought processes interacting with each other. We would see Light expanding into darkness, and darkness becoming Light in the process. We would see the One Consciousness of the All.
But we do not see the reality, instead we see the delusion. And this is why we really don’t understand the depth of what it means when we try to relate to ourselves as the Creator. We are trying to make the Creator into an individual, a being similar to what we are. An individual entity.
And it is natural for us to do this because it is all we know. We comprehend at the levels of experience that we know. How could we do otherwise?
But so long as the human tries to separate God into an individual entity, establish a process that leads into a creation, and then toss in their own individual aspect of that, they will never be able to recognize the One through the eyes of a stranger.
When the Source became aware and made that first thought, it did not recognize that thought as a part of itself. We are told that the light and dark were unable to comprehend each other. The polarity was looking into the eyes of a stranger, and yet they were one in the same. Not one entity, but one process. The Divine Process born in the effort from both sides of the mirror to comprehend the other self.
The human is the continuing aspect of that Divine Process. Consciousness expanding into unknown possibilities. Mystery.
The human is not going to suddenly awaken and become the creator and start making planets. No human is going to suddenly become God. This is not what is meant by discovering the divinity within. This is not what is meant by being One with God. No individual human alone is the creator; humanity is the creator. Humanity as a whole, as divine consciousness ‘being’ what it is in the divine process. No single human identity is going to ascend to become the creator. It cannot, because the human identity is an delusion, and an illusion cannot become something.
A process cannot become the Creator, it is the action of the Creator. The Goddess cannot become God. The Process cannot become the Source. The sound cannot become the mouth from which it proceeds. The view cannot become the Eye that observes it. The human cannot become the God that thinks it. The human is thought process taking place and continuing. We are the action between the Source and the creation that results from that action.
This is the One. None can be separated from the other. And yet none can be only the other. It is this divine blending of the All, and the individual components being able to transform into other components of the All, which they Ancients have called alchemy. It is the understanding of how different forms can be transformed that they studied as Sacred Geometry.
Creator/Spirit=thought/process/human/matter=creation
True identity/creator/spirit= process/human/being/consciousness= matter/creation/stranger/unknown/mystery
Matter will transform back into spirit by reversing the equation and following the same process back to its origin. The alchemical equation of lead into gold is the reverse of this truth where matter is transformed into spirit once again.
Creation=process=creator is spirit into matter
Creation= process = Creator is matter into spirit, lead into gold as it were.
If I knew of an equation that would prove the condensing of sound into matter I would place it here.
When the human can place themselves in the midst of this equation and realize the delusion of identity, they would then finally and truly know their true self and realize their divinity.
Until then we are creatures of our senses and our experiences, and identity and individuality are how we perceive our interaction with creation. And because of that limitation we have great difficulty in understanding the true character of the One and where we fit into it. We continue to think of ourselves as individual, even as we try to comprehend it as One, and superimpose that mistaken identity to our perception of our self as Creator.
It is my understanding that true realization of one’s divinity comes when one realizes that they are not an entity, but a ‘being’; a divine process.
We do not suddenly ascend and become God. We ascend into higher being and higher understanding. We ascend into the next stages that awareness of the Divine Process enables. In ignorance of the divine process and truth we slowly evolve into higher understanding. This is one stage of the long process of the evolution of ‘being’. Once awareness is achieved we enter into another stage of being. With awareness comes an increase in the frequency of our vibration and our field of consciousness literally transforms just like sound can alter the shape of crystal. We may not even realize this in our physical state, but our consciousness evolves whether our physical is aware of it or not.
The process of our attaining higher being may not result in instant physical transformation, but that is not the goal or purpose. The purpose is found in our experiencing the path to higher being and reaching it. As part of the divine process of being, our part is to evolve into higher being from lower being, and in this temporary physical aspect of that process our consciousness experiences this being as a human experience. Human on the path to transcending matter and transforming into the spirit from which it spawned. From lead into gold. From dense crystallized state into highly vibrating frequency.
In human form we will not realize this transformation. In consciousness as part of the divine process, it happens as naturally as breath expels from our lungs. Awareness of the natural process is that which the consciousness ever seeks. The possibility of the unknown stranger is what it constantly chases.
Can we realize such a transformation and experience some aspect of the metaphysical while we are still caught up in this physical part of the process of being? Of course. Just as higher vibration can alter form of matter so also can our physical state be altered. Will it be a sudden permanence removing us from our physical state of being? The ancients seem to teach us that all is possible. But if such has occurred it remains a secret. I think that with such higher realization and awareness also comes the understanding that certain truth is not appropriate for those too immature of consciousness to grasp it, and so those that attain it and enter into higher being take the secret with them to be relayed to us in slower vibrations more in synch with our own state of being.
The Ancients called man “Being God”. Academic thought changed that to “human being”. In ignorance of the reality of both God and human, spirit and matter, the guts of the divine equation was dissected and the truth of ‘Being’ was lost.
There is One God, one thought process, and one resulting creation. It cannot be separated or individualized from its reality. Each leads to the other and is bound to the other as One. This is what I believe to be the Law of One. This is what Don and Carla discovered from higher beings.
This is the understanding of my speculation based upon the depth of my experience. And in voicing my thoughts I share them with others which will find agreement and elaboration, and also contradiction and disagreement based upon the depth of their experiences. But without this sharing of thoughts we would be breaching the very design of creation, for The All is based upon the sharing of experience and interaction of various experiences with each other.
All of these various experiences are had within the depths of the Great Process and become stored experience; memory. Just as we recall the experiences of this one short experience and think it is all stored in our brain, the All has collected the vastness of experience from infinity to infinity. What we perceive to be our life and identity is simply a minute aspect of those vast memories and experiences stored within the All. We are the microcosm within the macrocosm, fully attached to the continuing Process. We are the Process taking place.
As we sit together like birds on the branch of the Tree of Life, we look at each other as individuals when we are really just two aspects of One great Process. The real stranger is not the one we sit next to, but the one we sit inside of that we think we know.
To think we know what even The Infinity still chases after in curiosity is simply the immature intelligence of creation defiantly trying to anchor the unstoppable chariot of Divine Thought. But with every thought a new possibility is born, and with it a new Mystery to catch. The Mystery of Infinity, from which the All was spawned.
As you sit there, this is the Process of your ‘being’, and the Mystery which you shall never catch. We have three choices. To climb up, climb down, or remain where we are. And from top to bottom infinity remains out of reach. On the Tree of Life one can never find the seed, nor the highest twig of new growth. The seed remains the Truth of origin lost in infinite time. The tip renews itself with every thought of reaching it.
It is how we define the direction, and the direction we choose to move toward, that our aspect of creation adds to the All. Our definitions are subjective to our perceptions, our experience is subjective to our definition and understanding, but the Divine process continues regardless. It remains the eyes of a stranger.
So for the sake of enabling my thoughts on STS and polarity to be discussed without encroaching on the territory of proselytizing, any further thought I would like to make will be added to this thread. It will not be for pointing fingers or sorting into groups. It will not be warning of what I might perceive to be dangerous. It will be strictly for professing one’s thoughts and responses to the thoughts of others with regard to the various paths we choose to walk.
Above I have made my base philosophy as clear as I can. All should know by this exactly where I am coming from in any subsequent replies in this thread. My understanding of collective consciousness, zero point field or whatever other terminology one wants to apply to the One Consciousness, is detailed above.
So I ask anyone interested in discussing under these terms,
“Why would one deliberately choose to experiment with negative energies, decreasing the frequency of their vibrations, and seek to gratify their physical self. If they understand that the physical self they are exploring is a delusion?”
and
"Why would one want to continue to experience the continuation of further reincarnation, when they have already been doing so for countless lifetimes, instead of trying to use any opportunity to free oneself from further reincarnations, to evolve into a higher state of being?"
These seem to be the questions that I would want to ask anyone in discussion about their choice to explore service to self.
