Quote:judg·ment noun \ˈjəj-mənt\
: an opinion or decision that is based on careful thought

: the act or process of forming an opinion or making a decision after careful thought : the act of judging something or someone

: the ability to make good decisions about what should be done

Sagittarius Wrote:Attack ? A bit paranoid aren't we. It was simply a question. One day the judgement's won't wash it away Wink.

Quote:So the confederation dictates your thought and judgment ?

Quote:Judgement (or judgment)[1] is the evaluation of evidence to make a decision.[2][3][4] The term has four distinct uses:
Informal - opinions expressed as facts.
Informal and psychological – used in reference to the quality of cognitive faculties and adjudicational capabilities of particular individuals, typically called wisdom or discernment.
Legal – used in the context of legal trial, to refer to a final finding, statement, or ruling, based on a considered weighing of evidence, called "adjudication". See spelling note for further explanation.
Religious – used in the concept of salvation to refer to the adjudication of God in determining Heaven or Hell for each and all human beings.

Quote:judg·men·tal adjective \ˌjəj-ˈmen-təl\
: tending to judge people too quickly and critically

: of, relating to, or involving judgment

(10-30-2013, 03:48 PM)Sagittarius Wrote: We always judge, that is what we are here to do. How narrow or wide that is could be considered wisdom. Judging someone because there post was not perceived to be "warm" enough seams pretty narrow.

(10-30-2013, 04:01 PM)xise Wrote: What's interest, upon further research, I think that when many of us post of us judging others, or us judging ourselves, we're actually referring to being judgmental, whose MW definition happens to be http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/judgmental:

Quote:judg·men·tal adjective \ˌjəj-ˈmen-təl\
: tending to judge people too quickly and critically

: of, relating to, or involving judgment

"too ... critically": Does this ring a bell?

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(10-30-2013, 03:48 PM)Sagittarius Wrote: We always judge, that is what we are here to do. How narrow or wide that is could be considered wisdom. Judging someone because there post was not perceived to be "warm" enough seams pretty narrow.

Ultimately, in for my understanding of judgment-condemnation, it's the emotional charge, it's the condemnation that is the less skillful part. I apologize if my words seemed to condemn, but I assure you that was not my intent. A mere observation can turn to condemnation, but also what seems to be condemnation can be a mere observation. One can make an observation of a heavy green ray interaction, one can make an observation of a heavy yellow ray interaction, and one only turns those observations into condemnations when the approval/disapproval mechanism attaches (for example, observing heavy yellow ray interaction and thinking or feeling it is "bad" I think would be judgment-condemnation).

The only true test of whether something is an observation or whether something is judgment is whether the one making the statement feels the emotional charge of the approval/disapproval mechanism. Perhaps there was some for me. It's something I will continue to work on!

(10-30-2013, 04:40 PM)peregrine Wrote: Perhaps to observe the temperature of an ideological construct may be one thing, but call that observation "pretty narrow" connotes harsh disapproval?

(10-30-2013, 05:07 PM)xise Wrote:

(10-30-2013, 04:40 PM)peregrine Wrote: Perhaps to observe the temperature of an ideological construct may be one thing, but call that observation "pretty narrow" connotes harsh disapproval?

Under my above definition of judgement-condemnation, it's only the feeling and thinking behind the statement that determines it's approval/disapproval content.

However, there is something to be said about operating through a distortion (at least for the positive polarity) if one continues to use language that is commonly harsh or is considered harsh by the other selves involved in the conversation, when the same message can be conveyed with language known to be less harsh. Of course, between cultural and region differences, there are much leeway between what is "commonly harsh." However, often if there is a distortion present it will show through despite information from the progress of the conversation indicating that the other selves involved in the conversation consider the language use harsh. However, the other selves can use the harsh language for self-balance and self-acceptance themselves despite perceived or real harsh language directed at them from the outside. So it's a good opportunity for all parties involved to balance and continue to un-distort themselves:

(1) The user of perceived harsh language when the user knows it to be perceived as harsh by the receiver can use this experience to increase his or her compassion and understanding of the listener (and not use such language in the future unless absolutely necessary to convey information and being very honest about when necessity actually applies, usually by using softer language first to convey information)

(2) The receiver can use the perceived harsh language experience to increase his or her self-acceptance about receiving harsh language and to feel compassion and understanding for the user of harsh language and not judge-condemn them (and to no longer associate disapproval or sensitivity toward the using of harsh language)

It's a journey though, and we shouldn't beat ourselves up if we don't get there right away, but it's important to make real efforts to put into practice the realizations we have made along the way in order to solidify them into our being.

(10-30-2013, 07:31 PM)Sagittarius Wrote: Every word spoken could be considered harsh/smooth depending on the locus one looks through. All positive comments are negative and all negative comments are positive.

(10-30-2013, 08:41 PM)Sagittarius Wrote: Perhaps if one saw themselves as AB instead of one or the other this "problem" wouldn't manifest. Story of my life.

(10-30-2013, 10:08 PM)Spaced Wrote:

(10-30-2013, 08:41 PM)Sagittarius Wrote: Perhaps if one saw themselves as AB instead of one or the other this "problem" wouldn't manifest. Story of my life.

if this sort of thing happens to you often, maybe you should think about why.