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RE: Importance Of Bring4th - manniz - 04-14-2014
(04-14-2014, 02:42 AM)Tanner Wrote: Aha
Tanner, I won't interfere in this thread, but in relation to your other thread, you should bring out your warrior mode out more often. It is obviously backed by strong love, so nothing in it to worry about.
RE: Importance Of Bring4th - Unbound - 04-14-2014
(04-14-2014, 01:02 PM)manniz Wrote:(04-14-2014, 02:42 AM)Tanner Wrote: Aha
Tanner, I won't interfere in this thread, but in relation to your other thread, you should bring out your warrior mode out more often. It is obviously backed by strong love, so nothing in it to worry about.
Thanks aha I usually try to pick my 'fights', not necessarily for victory, but because some battles do nothing but drain your resources aha
RE: Importance Of Bring4th - Sagittarius - 04-14-2014
(04-14-2014, 11:53 AM)peregrine Wrote:(04-14-2014, 12:26 AM)zenmaster Wrote:(04-13-2014, 10:49 PM)zenmaster (actually Tanner) Wrote: No one, anywhere, is at that point?No, but the majority of people are stuck in an obvious child-like state. Further, sub-collectives are created to reinforce that state through spiritual bypassing.
Were you expecting a perfect world?
Surprise!!!
(04-14-2014, 06:11 AM)Sagittarius Wrote:(04-14-2014, 02:59 AM)peregrine Wrote:(04-13-2014, 05:08 PM)zenmaster Wrote: Yes, but we're not quite to that point yet obviously.
You may not be, but believe you me, this does not apply to all. Sometimes odd things (well beyond the societal mind) just slip through the cracks, particularly for those who hold experience of being far beyond these local precincts.
What would be an example of this ? How is vague memory of experience beyond the local precinct accessing deeper roots of the mind, it's just another 3rd density experience that has the same meaning as this one.
Good question. One could argue it that way, that if you experience it in 3D, then it's a 3D experience.
I was speaking to the assertion that the developement of "value memes" was totally predictable because they are socially based.
So, let's say that one finds within oneself indicators of having traveled through higher negative densities. This can bring into play high torque forces that do not derive from society, but from higher developement in other arenas. Thus things become a tad less predictable and rather more "interesting."
I see what your saying, this just seems to me to be the penetration of the shadow self. No doubt a discipline of the disciple is to extend values to vague universal levels which can be represented and reinforced through time/space experiences of symbology.
But really how is this beyond our societal mind ? Is there really a difference between our society and all that have been including the "Venetians". If there is no time then wouldn't "we" be at the same point as every other 3rd density society at this point in time ? Why else would higher density subsume themselves to this point ?
RE: Importance Of Bring4th - Sacred Fool - 04-14-2014
(04-14-2014, 03:25 PM)Sagittarius Wrote: I see what your saying, this just seems to me to be the penetration of the shadow self. No doubt a discipline of the disciple is to extend values to vague universal levels which can be represented and reinforced through time/space experiences of symbology.
But really how is this beyond our societal mind ? Is there really a difference between our society and all that have been including the "Venetians". If there is no time then wouldn't "we" be at the same point as every other 3rd density society at this point in time ? Why else would higher density subsume themselves to this point ?
Yes, it's basically about digging more deeply into the unconscious self. Ra refers to the personal unconscious, the racial unconscious (human race) and the cosmic consciousness. To me it's not a good use of time to argue about where one begins and another leaves off.
The roots of mind is really a topic for a thread of its own, but here's a quote. One could chew on this for some time.
Don and Ra Wrote:30.2 Questioner: Thank you. Would you define mind, body, and spirit separately?
Ra: I am Ra. These terms are all simplistic descriptive terms which equal a complex of energy focuses; the body, as you call it, being the material of the density which you experience at a given space/time or time/space; this complex of materials being available for distortions of what you would call physical manifestation.
The mind is a complex which reflects the inpourings of the spirit and the up-pourings of the body complex. It contains what you know as feelings, emotions, and intellectual thoughts in its more conscious complexities. Moving further down the tree of mind we see the intuition which is of the nature of the mind more in contact or in tune with the total beingness complex. Moving down to the roots of mind we find the progression of consciousness which gradually turns from the personal to the racial memory, to the cosmic influxes, and thus becomes a direct contactor of that shuttle which we call the spirit complex.
This spirit complex is the channel whereby the inpourings from all of the various universal, planetary, and personal inpourings may be funneled into the roots of consciousness and whereby consciousness may be funneled to the gateway of intelligent infinity through the balanced intelligent energy of body and mind.
You will see by this series of definitive statements that mind, body, and spirit are inextricably intertwined and cannot continue, one without the other. Thus we refer to the mind/body/spirit complex rather than attempting to deal with them separately, for the work, shall we say, that you do during your experiences is done through the interaction of these three components, not through any one.
RE: Importance Of Bring4th - zenmaster - 04-14-2014
(04-14-2014, 11:53 AM)peregrine Wrote:You must have ignored the preceding "Yes, but we're not quite to that point yet obviously."?(04-14-2014, 12:26 AM)zenmaster Wrote:(04-13-2014, 10:49 PM)zenmaster (actually Tanner) Wrote: No one, anywhere, is at that point?No, but the majority of people are stuck in an obvious child-like state. Further, sub-collectives are created to reinforce that state through spiritual bypassing.
Were you expecting a perfect world?
Surprise!!!
RE: Importance Of Bring4th - Sacred Fool - 04-14-2014
(04-14-2014, 09:02 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(04-14-2014, 11:53 AM)peregrine Wrote: Were you expecting a perfect world?You must have ignored the preceding "Yes, but we're not quite to that point yet obviously."?
Surprise!!!
Nope, I remembered that.
RE: Importance Of Bring4th - zenmaster - 04-14-2014
(04-14-2014, 10:18 PM)peregrine Wrote:OK, then it was a misunderstanding.(04-14-2014, 09:02 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(04-14-2014, 11:53 AM)peregrine Wrote: Were you expecting a perfect world?You must have ignored the preceding "Yes, but we're not quite to that point yet obviously."?
Surprise!!!
Nope, I remembered that.
RE: Importance Of Bring4th - Sacred Fool - 04-15-2014
(04-14-2014, 11:09 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(04-14-2014, 10:18 PM)peregrine Wrote:OK, then it was a misunderstanding.(04-14-2014, 09:02 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(04-14-2014, 11:53 AM)peregrine Wrote: Were you expecting a perfect world?You must have ignored the preceding "Yes, but we're not quite to that point yet obviously."?
Surprise!!!
Nope, I remembered that.
It could be that, or maybe it's just a small point not worth arguing about?
RE: Importance Of Bring4th - Sagittarius - 04-15-2014
I see I mis-interpreted the implication of "local-precincts"
RE: Importance Of Bring4th - Sacred Fool - 04-15-2014
(04-15-2014, 03:00 AM)Sagittarius Wrote: I see I mis-interpreted the implication of "local-precincts"
I could have used a simpler word there. I picked it up from Q'uo who happens to be the only creature I think I've ever come across to use that word outside of indicating voting districts in some major US cities.
It's derived from Latin and means "a defined area." I like its quirkiness, but it is a bit obscure.
RE: Importance Of Bring4th - AnthroHeart - 04-15-2014
Bring4th has been very important for me to express my honest feelings, regardless of how others might feel. I feel I've shared everything under the rainbow about myself. Though there's things I wouldn't even tell my therapist.
The community has been supportive, during my bipolar times of going up and down. I've been at the lowest lows of schizophrenia, to the highest highs of manic disorder. Feeling like I was in heaven that went on for a week. It's dangerous when one thinks they have died. Because in death I get excited. People have heard my complaints, even in the middle of some pretty intense threads. I've derailed a few threads. I've gotten corrected, even in PM's. Tried hard not to take it personally, because I am a sensitive individual. I've gone from wanting to die, to being balanced and ok with the thought of dying. Furries have been the hilight of my life, and I've dedicated a whole thread to them, with some people actually viewing my posts there. Maybe some watch the videos I post, I don't know. A lot of music videos with furry art. It's what gets me going.
And don't get me started on Daddy Ra. I once thought I was part of their social memory complex, and was visiting them in the sun. It was hot there, and I could see and feel my distortions as hot patches. I missed the end of my work shift for thinking I had died and joined Ra in heaven, in the sun. I sure do miss those days. Bring4th is important to me because I can talk about these things where I can't anywhere else. Even my spiritual mother wouldn't understand, and I can't bring up death to her cause she'd call 911 being worried about my mental state. But I think on my psych meds I'm pretty grounded. That is all.