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RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - AnthroHeart - 04-14-2014 (04-14-2014, 03:37 AM)peregrine Wrote: GW, I don't know if it'll help you to emphasize this, but here's an attempt. Thanks for not bashing my little pity party I had. I agree that I won't be seeing 6D with the same eyes that I do now. I am honestly not suffering really. Just homesick. Testing the spirits 3 times sounds like a plan. I usually don't converse with entities. The time I did when I wasn't on my meds it didn't end well. But I didn't test them, saying they were God and all. It nearly ruined my life. I agree with Law of One being highest spiritual truth, though it extends beyond what Ra delivered. There's lots to the Law of One I'm sure that wasn't covered because the questions weren't asked. RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Sacred Fool - 04-14-2014 (04-14-2014, 10:04 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Thanks for not bashing my little pity party I had. Now that you bring that up, I realize that I had neglected in the previous post to mention that I share your sentiments. The amount of things to try to balance here, in so many categories, is truly overwhelming. I've found, in whatever ways I can align myself that way, that focusing on a distortion towards service can sometimes take the edge off. RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - AnthroHeart - 04-14-2014 (04-14-2014, 11:58 AM)peregrine Wrote: Now that you bring that up, I realize that I had neglected in the previous post to mention that I share your sentiments. The amount of things to try to balance here, in so many categories, is truly overwhelming. I've found, in whatever ways I can align myself that way, that focusing on a distortion towards service can sometimes take the edge off. I never realized there were so many things to balance here. I thought it was mainly love and light for a wanderer. But now that you said it, I agree. Keeping my chakras in balance is a difficult chore sometimes. I sometimes wonder if when I'm back in 6D, if I'll be more unbalanced than when I left. RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Sacred Fool - 04-14-2014 (04-14-2014, 01:17 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I never realized there were so many things to balance here. I thought it was mainly love and light for a wanderer. But now that you said it, I agree. Keeping my chakras in balance is a difficult chore sometimes. I sometimes wonder if when I'm back in 6D, if I'll be more unbalanced than when I left. But the "you" which you identify with here on earth didn't come from 6D and will not return. It's a temporary construct, like a borrowed car. This "you" won't properly transport the "you" that inhabits 6D. So, why get overly stressed out about the vehicle? Why not concentrate on the driver? The balances/imbalances of the driver should be of greater interest. How does one determine these? You need a clear shot looking deep inside to get information like that. Ha ha, so, now we're back to the balance/imbalances of your current vehicle. Hey, that was quick spin around the block! RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - AnthroHeart - 04-14-2014 So if I were a wanderer from 6D, does this mean that 99.9% of me is still in 6D, and that my current vehicle is but a spark of my real 6D self? Or did I fully come here? I can feel powerless, so I don't feel like I have my full self here. RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - darklight - 04-14-2014 (04-14-2014, 04:36 PM)peregrine Wrote:(04-14-2014, 01:17 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I never realized there were so many things to balance here. I thought it was mainly love and light for a wanderer. But now that you said it, I agree. Keeping my chakras in balance is a difficult chore sometimes. I sometimes wonder if when I'm back in 6D, if I'll be more unbalanced than when I left. You know, several times I woked up in the middle of the night and realized that this body, this personality, is not really me. This strange happening was very short, maybe 10 seconds or so, then the 3D mind had take it over and everything went normal again. (Sorry if my English is not properly, I'm Dutch and I speak and write mainly Dutch here in the Netherlands ![]() RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Sacred Fool - 04-14-2014 (04-14-2014, 05:30 PM)darklight Wrote: You know, several times I woked up in the middle of the night and realized that this body, this personality, is not really me. This strange happening was very short, maybe 10 seconds or so, then the 3D mind had take it over and everything went normal again. It's been a long time since, but I can remember experiences like that. For a moment or two the possibilities seemed wide open as if (metaphorically speaking) there were no walls around me. Then in an instant all the strictures of my biographical narrative closed in and gave context to my thoughts. Had that not have happened (I think I was in my early teens) I'm sure I would have panicked due to the extreme freedom....sad to say..... Freedom was something I was very fond of then--as now. Funny that I.................... (04-14-2014, 04:49 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: So if I were a wanderer from 6D, does this mean that 99.9% of me is still in 6D, and that my current vehicle is but a spark of my real 6D self? Or did I fully come here? I can feel powerless, so I don't feel like I have my full self here.If you were all here, then you wouldn't need to ask the question, would you? It's a trade off. We get to play and learn, there are few inconveniences along the way, then it's over. Then we do it again. Maybe you're a first time wanderer here, GW. That could perhaps explain some of your tenacity in this regard? RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - darklight - 04-14-2014 An incarnated wanderer is physically the same as a native being, except one thing in the spirit complex: Ra says that wanderers have an "armor of light". Not sure what that armor does, probably some protection (against attacks from the Orion Group maybe). RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Sacred Fool - 04-14-2014 You got my curiosity going, so I looked it up. Don and Ra Wrote:16.59 Questioner: The many Wanderers coming to this planet now and in the recent past— are they subject to Orion thoughts? RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Melissa - 04-15-2014 I'd say it's an upgrade. RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - darklight - 04-15-2014 The most famous and influential people here on Earth are natives of the highest sub-octave and 4th density wanderers, that's what it seems. Higher density wanderers, especially 6th density wanderers, are those normal, passive ones just like the other 6 billion people. Am I right? What do you guys think? RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - sunnysideup - 04-15-2014 I don't know, darklight. Who do you consider to be the most famous and influential here on Earth and furthermore how can you tell who is a wanderer or native? 1Love RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Jeremy - 04-15-2014 Ra: I am Ra. Few there are of fourth density. The largest number of Wanderers, as you call them, are of the sixth density. The desire to serve must be distorted towards a great deal of purity of mind and what you may call foolhardiness or bravery, depending upon your distortion complex judgment. The challenge/danger of the Wanderer is that it will forget its mission, become karmically involved, and thus be swept into the maelstrom from which it had incarnated to aid the destruction. RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - darklight - 04-15-2014 (04-15-2014, 06:25 AM)sunnysideup Wrote: I don't know, darklight. Who do you consider to be the most famous and influential here on Earth and furthermore how can you tell who is a wanderer or native? For example: 26.17 Questioner: Thank you. Can you tell me where the entity that used Lincoln— Abraham’s— body what density he came from and where? Ra: I am Ra. This entity was fourth-vibration. 17.12 Questioner (on Jesus): Did you say the fifth vibration was that of love? Fifth density was that of love? Ra: I am Ra. I have made an error. The fourth-density being is that which we intended to say, the highest level of fourth density going into the fifth. This entity could have gone on to the fifth but chose instead to return to third for this particular mission. This entity was of the highest sub-octave of the vibration of love. This is fourth density. 11.12 Questioner: Where are these three entities now? (Taras Bulba, Genghis Khan, Rasputin) Ra: I am Ra. These entities are in the dimension known to you as fourth. Therefore the space/time continua are not compatible. An approximation of the space/time locus of each would net no actual understanding. Each chose a fourth-density planet which was dedicated to the pursuit of the understanding of the Law of One through service to self, one in what you know as the Orion group, one in what you know as Cassiopeia, one in what you know as Southern Cross; however, these loci are not satisfactory. We do not have vocabulary for the geometric calculations necessary for transfer of this understanding to you. Ra: I am Ra (Hermann Goering and Heinrich Himmler). We can speak only of two entities who may be harvestable in a negative sense, others still being in the physical incarnation: one known to you as Hermann; the other known, as it preferred to be called, Himmler. RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - sunnysideup - 04-15-2014 Yes I see where you getting at and these entities are indeed a good example of influential native or 4D wanderers. But assuming every famous and/or influential entity is either native or a 4D wanderer doesn't feel right imo. I think there are plenty of 5D or 6D influential wanderers too. RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - darklight - 04-15-2014 (04-15-2014, 07:42 AM)sunnysideup Wrote: I think there are plenty of 5D or 6D influential wanderers too. Yes, Carla, Don and Jim ![]() ![]() Some family members calls me a Satanist. But it doen't hurt me, because I had the same thoughts in the past. Experiencing---->learning------>changing, it feels good. RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Spaced - 04-15-2014 (04-15-2014, 08:02 AM)darklight Wrote: The LOO is exclusively for the elite I very strongly disagree with this. RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Fang - 04-15-2014 Quote:The LOO is exclusively for the eliteThe law is for all The Ra Material on the other hand... RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - darklight - 04-15-2014 Well, i'm not saying it is exclusive for an elite in the first place. The "elite" is the "consequence" because the majority is religious, or atheist. RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Hotsizzle77 - 04-15-2014 (04-12-2014, 06:22 PM)darklight Wrote: I still don't understand that because on 6th density level, the beings are not naive, and yet the most wanderers are from the 6th density. To answer the original question, it is extremely rare for a 6th density STS entity to volunteer to incarnate back into 3rd density. I believe they are wise in the sense of knowing that all they have subjectively/ individually progressed , and take great pride in their progression toward power. Therefore, they remain in 6th, as they progress, polarities "even out" resulting in the understanding that all is one. A 6th density STO obviously progesses with the love for others viewing all as one as opposed to the subjective individual illusion that negative entities withhold. Are they wise? Wiser than we know my friend, it is impossible not to serve the creator, for all is one. So now let's all help EACHOTHER relearn what it is we have forgotten. RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Spaced - 04-15-2014 (04-15-2014, 09:46 AM)darklight Wrote: Well, i'm not saying it is exclusive for an elite in the first place. The "elite" is the "consequence" because the majority is religious, or atheist. Do you consider yourself to be elite? I would invite you to read a little bit about what Ra says on the topic of elitism. According to them the separation of a population into elite and non-elite is a distortion introduced by the Orion Confederation. Quote:18.21 Questioner: Why did they want larger and stronger organisms? There is great danger in considering yourself to be elite in comparison to others, because that mindset can be used to justify all sorts of self-serving assumptions or actions. RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - darklight - 04-15-2014 Maybe the "elite" is not the properly term because it sounds quite negative. RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - AnthroHeart - 04-15-2014 I wonder if there are more 6D souls than 3D souls. Not everyone is a wanderer, and not every 6D wandered. I wonder how the choice was made to come here. Even 6D has seniority of vibration. Strange, I don't feel that special to have had seniority of vibration and the chance to have incarnated at harvest time. RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Sacred Fool - 04-15-2014 (04-15-2014, 10:48 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Strange, I don't feel that special to have had seniority of vibration and the chance to have incarnated at harvest time. Evidently, your vibration is somewhat less distorted compared to some portion of others. Maybe feeling less distorted doesn't feel "special," just balanced? RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - AnthroHeart - 04-15-2014 It could be balanced. For the most part I feel pretty balanced. Just that I don't feel some of my chakras, like red or orange. Unless I'm aroused then I feel my orange. I can't say for sure if I came here to balance myself more. If my vehicle here is but an illusion, it's hard to say why I'm here. Ra says the only activity worth doing is teach/learn and learn/teach. So I'm definitely learn/teaching. But I guess I could always use more balance. I probably didn't want to spend another couple million years balancing what could be done in 70 years here on Earth with such a dense veil. I feel pretty still inside. Is inner stillness a sign of balance? RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Ankh - 04-15-2014 (04-14-2014, 08:33 AM)Guardian Wrote: >Billions of people are retarding the process of harvest. And yet, here we are, because of that reason which you found so funny.... RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - darklight - 04-15-2014 (04-15-2014, 10:02 AM)Spaced Wrote:(04-15-2014, 09:46 AM)darklight Wrote: Well, i'm not saying it is exclusive for an elite in the first place. The "elite" is the "consequence" because the majority is religious, or atheist. No, I'm not in a position of power, so I can't be an elite. "All is One" seen from the perspective of the higher densities, but not all thinks and acts like one in this quite disharmonious density. Like Ra said, this will be a difficult harvest, with as end result that many will repeat the 3th density master cycle. So, in this many distortions, all is not one. RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - AnthroHeart - 04-15-2014 (04-15-2014, 09:51 AM)Hotsizzle77 Wrote: Therefore, they remain in 6th, as they progress, polarities "even out" resulting in the understanding that all is one. I read that it takes all an STS entities will and faith to be able to switch polarities. Not an easy thing to do. Yes, I do my best to help others. But sometimes I do too much. Sometimes helping my mom has made me think of myself as a slave, which shuts down my yellow ray, so I don't like to think on those terms. RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - cosmiclady - 04-16-2014 (04-13-2014, 01:50 AM)anagogy Wrote:(04-12-2014, 06:22 PM)darklight Wrote: I still don't understand that because on 6th density level, the beings are not naive, and yet the most wanderers are from the 6th density. I would like to say briefly that I agree that the sixth density incarnates in third density out of love. One may incarnate in a lower density in order to advance spiritually or to be challenged by catalysts, but doesn't that alone sound sort of STS?? RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - AnthroHeart - 04-16-2014 (04-16-2014, 01:44 AM)cosmiclady Wrote: I would like to say briefly that I agree that the sixth density incarnates in third density out of love. One may incarnate in a lower density in order to advance spiritually or to be challenged by catalysts, but doesn't that alone sound sort of STS?? It might be STS if it were at the expense of others. |