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RE: Regression session - Meerie - 05-04-2011
Oh I love that song by Chaplin, transiten!
But C does not have sooo many planets in Cancer... only 2 that I know of.
RE: Regression session - transiten - 05-04-2011
(05-04-2011, 09:33 AM)Meerie Wrote: Oh I love that song by Chaplin, transiten!
But C does not have sooo many planets in Cancer... only 2 that I know of.
Again, it's not the chart that has the person, it's the person that has a chart so of course the chart is subordinate to the level of consciousness of the person. Cancer is often a very nurturing energy, family and home you know and then again humanity can be our family and home everywhere you put down your bag 
transiten
RE: Regression session - Confused - 05-04-2011
(05-04-2011, 09:39 AM)transiten Wrote: Cancer is often a very nurturing energy, family and home you know...
Did you read that, Meerie? Now at least will you consider my flirtations with you seriously?!! See, I am good for home and all that
Oh Oh, Meerie may PM Monica saying C is very harassing
RE: Regression session - Meerie - 05-04-2011
(05-04-2011, 09:26 AM)transiten Wrote: Thanks Confused! You seem to be such a gentle soul! And not very moody as pple with many planets in cancer can be....Yes but you seemd to insinuate he had many planets in cancer, there fore I was a bit
Yes of course C, I know all of that. And Monica will never ban you, believe me
Speaking of home and nurturing energy, Meerie will pack her bags and head home right now.
see you guys tomorrow!
RE: Regression session - Confused - 05-04-2011
Bye, bye, M
Take care. See you tomorrow.
RE: Regression session - Ankh - 05-04-2011
(05-04-2011, 09:01 AM)Confused Wrote: Could it be due to the potential fact that you think you are not loving, while in fact you are deeply loving? Just wondering.
Are you blocking the flow of love in to the lower chakras, thinking you are not capable of bestowing love, while yet, you show love more than many other people. I do not know whether there is sense to that! But I thought I should ask it that way.
I did not see that question until now.
I don't love myself, and therefore, I don't accept love directed to me offered from others.
RE: Regression session - Confused - 05-04-2011
(05-04-2011, 10:41 AM)Ankh Wrote: I don't love myself, ...
Any particular reasons for that, Ankh? That is if you can share.
RE: Regression session - Ankh - 05-04-2011
(05-04-2011, 11:09 AM)Confused Wrote: Any particular reasons for that, Ankh? That is if you can share.
Aaah brother, you are crucifying me! Guilt.
RE: Regression session - transiten - 05-04-2011
(05-04-2011, 10:41 AM)Ankh Wrote:(05-04-2011, 09:01 AM)Confused Wrote: Could it be due to the potential fact that you think you are not loving, while in fact you are deeply loving? Just wondering.
Are you blocking the flow of love in to the lower chakras, thinking you are not capable of bestowing love, while yet, you show love more than many other people. I do not know whether there is sense to that! But I thought I should ask it that way.
I did not see that question until now.
I don't love myself, and therefore, I don't accept love directed to me offered from others.
Ankh!
You mean you NEVER love yourself? This makes me think of the lyrics from Crosby Stills Nash and Young: "You expect for me to love you when you hate yourself my friend"
Now i don't mean you exactly hate yourself, i actually am familiar with the issue of not loving myself but i'm working on it...Do you have a picture of yourself as a little girl? 4 years or so? Look at her, that's YOU and everything that happened to that little girl doesn't make her less lovable!
It's just THE TRUTH YOUR TRUTH and the truth will SET YOU FREE!
from transiten
RE: Regression session - Confused - 05-04-2011
(05-04-2011, 11:19 AM)Ankh Wrote: Guilt.
I don't know guilt for what and if you do not want to share, it is OK?
But tell me, do you desire fervently to pierce the veil?
RE: Regression session - Ankh - 05-04-2011
(05-04-2011, 11:21 AM)transiten Wrote: You mean you NEVER love yourself?
Yes.
Quote:This makes me think of the lyrics from Crosby Stills Nash and Young: "You expect for me to love you when you hate yourself my friend"
That was so beautiful that I got tears in my eyes.
Quote:Do you have a picture of yourself as a little girl? 4 years or so? Look at her, that's YOU and everything that happened to that little girl doesn't make her less lovable!
I got another picture from the regression of what I did.
(05-04-2011, 11:21 AM)Confused Wrote: But tell me, do you desire fervently to pierce the veil?
Not so much into that anymore (by some particular reason
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RE: Regression session - Confused - 05-04-2011
(05-04-2011, 11:30 AM)Ankh Wrote: Not so much into that anymore (by some particular reason
Ankh, do you remember the emotional and painfilled moments before you gave birth to your beautiful child?
If your child was born through the normal process, remember it was all intense pain before you were able to look into those little squinting eyes.
You are now facing intense pain, I think. The joy of deliverance is on the way, I suppose. Please hold on. I know all these words may never help. But I want you to know that I hold deep love and respect for you, dear sister.
Have a wonderful night, l&l --- C
As I bid goodnight, I hope the following words of Ra help you in terms of processing the therapy information/experience and determining further course of action --
Quote:You may see, in some cases, an entity which, either by pre-incarnative choice or by constant reprogramming while in incarnation, has developed an esurient program of catalyst. Such an entity is quite desirous of using the catalyst and has determined to its own satisfaction that what you may call the large board needs to be applied to the forehead in order to obtain the attention of the self. In these cases it may indeed seem a great waste of the catalyst of pain and a distortion towards feeling the tragedy of so much pain may be experienced by the other-self. However, it is well to hope that the other-self is grasping that which it has gone to some trouble to offer itself; that is, the catalyst which it desires to use for the purpose of evolution. (from 83.26)
RE: Regression session - kia - 05-04-2011
Ankh, thanks for sharing your experience. I hope it helps you put things together soon, I´m sure it will. Much love to you
RE: Regression session - native - 05-04-2011
This is all very confusing..I can imagine it's very hard for you right now. It's possible that you have had a mixed polarity path in the past. This would mean your higher self has an intimate viewpoint to offer in regards to your current lifetime and frame of mind. It is going to tell you the truth, and not necessarily what you want to hear.
It's also possible that you weren't channeling your higher self at all, and a negative entity came in. You are very sympathetic in trying to understand the nature of the negative path, and you are loving towards those beings. You were also very vulnerable and not necessarily guarded in the information you were seeking. Being a wanderer who is on the positive path devoted to the Law of One, and given your negative past in this lifetime, you could have simply been the victim of cleverness trying to manipulate you in the wrong direction. Perhaps you don't have a negative history at all, and given your experiences this lifetime, you are simply vulnerable to being led to doubt yourself and your loving nature.
One thing that is certain though is that you are definitely a positive loving being here and now. I would focus on love and moving closer towards it. Ultimately the session doesn't matter in that it has no bearing on your current state of being!
RE: Regression session - Ankh - 05-04-2011
(05-04-2011, 11:21 AM)Confused Wrote: guilt for what
For what I did, according to the session.
(05-04-2011, 12:05 PM)kia Wrote: Ankh, thanks for sharing your experience. I hope it helps you put things together soon, I´m sure it will. Much love to you
Thank you, sweety! Much love and light to you too!
(05-04-2011, 12:58 PM)Icaro Wrote: It's also possible that you weren't channeling your higher self at all
I don't think It was my Higher Self. But it is possible that it was some kind of part of Higher Self, sometimes called as Shadow.
Quote:One thing that is certain though is that you are definitely a positive loving being here and now.
Thank you, my brother! You are a beautiful soul!
RE: Regression session - transiten - 05-04-2011
Ankh!
I have not told my full story here and i don't know if i ever will but i've mentioned i was brainwashed by a meditiationguru with horrible consequences which shut me down totally for many years and i had hughe feelings of guilt for having let myself been manipulated like that since there were also ambitions i had that led me astray and it made me feel evil.
You don't have to feel guilt for this Ankh, it's an opportunity to get to know the truth about youself and that can never be wrong. We humans are capable of a lot ubder certain circumstances. Don't judge yourself, get to know yourself, good and bad and shadow and all, that's human and the condition we live in here on earth.
transiten
RE: Regression session - Ankh - 05-04-2011
I did not know about that with the guru, sister! You are a strong soul that managed yourself out that "relationship". Usch!
Thank you for your kind words!
RE: Regression session - 3DMonkey - 05-04-2011
Ankh, I wrote something about love in another thread today before reading your thoughts in this thread. Somehow, I thinks it serves. If you can love others and receive their love for you, you will be okay. If you can forgive others, others will forgive you.
Whatever you "did" served us all. Focusing on your self, whether it be loving or loathing, is still focusing on your self. Give into your family and friends. They will love you and you will love them.
I love you.
RE: Regression session - Ankh - 05-04-2011
You nailed, brother. I was/am selfish. I'll try my best and you'll try your best. If not, let's meet together on another Earth and rock their planet, shall we?
(05-04-2011, 03:16 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: I love you.
I love you too!
RE: Regression session - 3DMonkey - 05-04-2011
I mean it 
RE: Regression session - Brittany - 05-04-2011
Sending love, Ankh.
If it makes any difference, you've made a difference in my life. You have changed the life of at least one person for the better. I think that would be at least one thing to not hate about yourself.
RE: Regression session - Ankh - 05-04-2011
(05-04-2011, 04:59 PM)ahktu Wrote: Sending love, Ankh.
If it makes any difference, you've made a difference in my life. You have changed the life of at least one person for the better. I think that would be at least one thing to not hate about yourself.
Aaaah sister.... Thank you! You did and continuing to do the same for me! I love you!!!
RE: Regression session - Monica - 05-04-2011
(05-04-2011, 12:58 PM)Icaro Wrote: This is all very confusing..I can imagine it's very hard for you right now. It's possible that you have had a mixed polarity path in the past. This would mean your higher self has an intimate viewpoint to offer in regards to your current lifetime and frame of mind. It is going to tell you the truth, and not necessarily what you want to hear.
It's also possible that you weren't channeling your higher self at all, and a negative entity came in. You are very sympathetic in trying to understand the nature of the negative path, and you are loving towards those beings. You were also very vulnerable and not necessarily guarded in the information you were seeking. Being a wanderer who is on the positive path devoted to the Law of One, and given your negative past in this lifetime, you could have simply been the victim of cleverness trying to manipulate you in the wrong direction. Perhaps you don't have a negative history at all, and given your experiences this lifetime, you are simply vulnerable to being led to doubt yourself and your loving nature.
One thing that is certain though is that you are definitely a positive loving being here and now. I would focus on love and moving closer towards it. Ultimately the session doesn't matter in that it has no bearing on your current state of being!
Ankh, I am just now reading this thread. Wow, what an intense experience!
Apparently there is some catalyst here.
But I was just thinking exactly what Icaro just suggested. And then I read Icaro saying what I was thinking!
I've had several past life sessions with various practitioners, using various methods to access the memories. Several were with psychics who supposedly read my lifetimes from the Akashic records. In those cases, I felt nothing. Zero. Zip. Nada. Were they accurate? I'll never know, because the readings did nothing for me. I just didn't feel anything; nor did they satisfy anything intellectually.
Then I had a session with someone who used acupuncture to access the memories. This put me in an altered state and I basically just told him the images I was seeing. In this case, lots of jumbled, chaotic images from traumatic lifetimes surfaced.
I trusted this method more than the one with the psychics because I was the one who had the visions. However, the lifetimes that surfaced seemed forced, as though I were digging in the dirt; actually looking for icky stuff.
In contrast, I have also had past life memories surface spontaneously or while meditating for someone or while seeking clarity on a particular issue.
The most vivid of these was the memories I came into this lifetime with. I'd died in a dungeon in my last life, and those memories were particularly vivid and painful. But because they were so near to the surface, I had to work thru them.
The memories that surfaced spontaneously during meditation were the most powerful of all, because they surfaced just at the right time! For example, when I was literally crying out with all my heart and soul, seeking healing between me and another person, I suddenly received an intense vision of what happened between us in another lifetime, accompanied by intense emotional pain and the memory of physical pain, as I lay dying after a violent confrontation with this person.
There was no way I imagined that. It was every bit as real as any memory from this lifetime!
This has happened to me a number of times. Sometimes it's just a snippet. It's not always as intense as remembering getting murdered (or murdering). But in every case, there was a crystal clear certainty that what I was seeing was authentic, whereas the experiences with the psychics and with the acupuncturist left me doubting and confused. My conclusion was that, in those cases, the past life memories were extracted, regardless of whether I was ready to face them or not, thus facilitating unnecessary guilt and trauma which might have been better to leave buried. Whereas, when it happened spontaneously, I was ready to process them and heal them.
I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with seeking answers by engaging in such sessions. But, when working with a practitioner, there is an element of potential distortion that might enter the scene. And, depending on your state of mind, expectations, vibration in the therapy room (might still have some residue from the last session, etc.), the therapist's own possible distortions, anxiety about the session, etc. - any or all of that can affect the purity of the transmission.
Thus, my suggestion would be to accept that which is useful - ie. healing, comforting or clarifying - and discard that which brings forth pain. Some of those painful memories might not need to surface. If they did, then you would resonate with them and be able to process them and heal them. When I remembered being murdered, I was already in the throes of a horrible situation with that person. So it was appropriate that such a memory would surface, because it explained so much! But what if such a memory surfaces about someone I was currently in a harmonious relationship with? If that had happened, then it might have stirred up old pain for nothing.
In other words, I suggest asking yourself if these particular memories have value for you in the here and now. If they do, by explaining some situation or discord, then wonderful! Accept them and process them.
BUT, if they don't really seem to explain anything, but just add confusion, then I would suggest putting them on a shelf for future reference, or even discarding completely.
The Truth should set us free, not add to our confusion and pain. (Though we might feel pain temporarily as we process it...but the pain is in the resistance, not in the Truth itself. Ultimately Truth should be liberating.)
I'm just sharing my own personal experiences, in case any of it might be useful to you, as you process this experience.
Hugs and Blessings to you! Be gentle with yourself.
RE: Regression session - Brittany - 05-04-2011
Heck, if I can forgive myself for being in Orion and torturing people for fun, I think there might be hope for you yet, young padawan.
Does it seem inappropriate to put a smiley after a statement like that?
RE: Regression session - Ankh - 05-04-2011
(05-04-2011, 05:11 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Apparently there is some catalyst here.
Whether we pick our lifes to summarize our deepest spiritual growth, or the fact that this colourful and very emotional picture that I had is just a symbolic picture that summarises this current life, or if it really happened, either way – it summarize pretty clear the most important, present lessons. I cannot, still, accept the love and complete, unconditional understanding and total embracement from my social memory complex. I am not there yet. And I cannot live in the present moment, to ground myself. Unfortunately.
Quote:The most vivid of these was the memories I came into this lifetime with. I'd died in a dungeon in my last life, and those memories were particularly vivid and painful. But because they were so near to the surface, I had to work thru them.
There was one time when I was on a vacation trip in Germany and we made a tourist visit to a dungeon. I had such a severe anxiety attack after that, that I had to drink myself drunk in order to handle the vibrations. It was long time ago, but I still remember it.
Quote:The memories that surfaced spontaneously during meditation were the most powerful of all, because they surfaced just at the right time! For example, when I was literally crying out with all my heart and soul, seeking healing between me and another person, I suddenly received an intense vision of what happened between us in another lifetime, accompanied by intense emotional pain and the memory of physical pain, as I lay dying after a violent confrontation with this person.
*shocking eyes* Thank you for the tip!! I will use it from now on!
Quote:There was no way I imagined that. It was every bit as real as any memory from this lifetime!
I don't know what to think about what I saw and felt. It was not something I feel when I remember something from this life, but I was not human either. But it was more intense than anything I've experienced in this life... On the other hand, being skeptic all my life I wonder about the "authenticity" of the experience.
Quote:I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with seeking answers by engaging in such sessions. But, when working with a practitioner, there is an element of potential distortion that might enter the scene. And, depending on your state of mind, expectations, vibration in the therapy room (might still have some residue from the last session, etc.), the therapist's own possible distortions, anxiety about the session, etc. - any or all of that can affect the purity of the transmission.
He is a Wanderer, although of different vibration than I, but he has been working with this for 6 years and seemed to be a very caring and loving soul. We were in my house, in the bedroom.
Quote:If they did, then you would resonate with them and be able to process them and heal them.
I did resonate with the pain... I was trying to heal it in higher densities, but it took too much time... So here I am...
Quote:In other words, I suggest asking yourself if these particular memories have value for you in the here and now. If they do, by explaining some situation or discord, then wonderful! Accept them and process them.
Yes, they have. But it's not that easy to accept and process...
Quote:I'm just sharing my own personal experiences, in case any of it might be useful to you, as you process this experience.
Hugs and Blessings to you! Be gentle with yourself.
I don't have many to talk about this deep spiritual stuff in my surroundings, if any at all. Sometimes it looks like I am surrounded by Wanderers by none of them is fully awake. So sometimes maybe I come across as I talk too much, I don't know.
But it is probably because of the fact that I've experienced many catalysts that made to wake up... I don't know. However, I would like you all to know that you are my light and love, a true spiritual family that I've been looking for, for such a long time! And now, I finally found you! And see... how beautiful you all are, sparkling like jewels! Thank you!!!
(05-04-2011, 05:21 PM)ahktu Wrote: Heck, if I can forgive myself for being in Orion and torturing people for fun, I think there might be hope for you yet, young padawan.
Accept the difficult path is the a choice of the padawan.
RE: Regression session - Confused - 05-04-2011
(05-04-2011, 06:28 PM)Ankh Wrote: I don't have many to talk about this deep spiritual stuff in my surroundings, if any at all. Sometimes it looks like I am surrounded by Wanderers by none of them is fully awake. So sometimes maybe I come across as I talk too much, I don't know.
This can very well happen. And this is something to be careful of as well.
As we surround ourselves with the words of the LOO and immerse into fellowship with fellow LOOers (through b4th), a separate reality tends to wrap around us. Our eyes are now seeing things through the lenses of the LOO; while those around of us who do not share the same framework may find our actions completely of kilter.
RE: Regression session - Brittany - 05-04-2011
LOOers...is that an official archetype?
RE: Regression session - native - 05-05-2011
(05-04-2011, 05:11 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: But I was just thinking exactly what Icaro just suggested. And then I read Icaro saying what I was thinking!
Git out of my head! We have been agreeing a lot lately. The Monicaro complex is forming as we speak!
Quote:In other words, I suggest asking yourself if these particular memories have value for you in the here and now. If they do, by explaining some situation or discord, then wonderful! Accept them and process them.
BUT, if they don't really seem to explain anything, but just add confusion, then I would suggest putting them on a shelf for future reference, or even discarding completely.
Mhm. What he have experienced in this lifetime has the most bearing on what we need to work on because this incarnation is the product of our past, or lessons that need to be integrated.
If certain details don't apply to this incarnation, then they have no bearing on our current state.
RE: Regression session - Confused - 05-05-2011
(05-04-2011, 07:44 PM)ahktu Wrote: LOOers...is that an official archetype?
I do not know about that, but many of those complex among here are my family now
RE: Regression session - Ankh - 05-05-2011
Day 2 after the regression. I feel more "myself" now. This emotional drama has more or less faded away and I wonder did it really happen? I felt such intensity of feelings that it's kind of weird. Anyway this is what affected me so much during the regression session:
First I saw couple of things of not much importance, then this. We were a little group, not the entire soulgroup, just few of us, who were viewing a place in what I perceived to be a Roman Empire. The vibrations in that particular place were very low. People down there were fighting each other, and it was completely unnecessary. The thought that I had viewing this place was: "They don't understand." We had to raise those vibrations. There was a call.
So we were on our way down to descend, but during this process, I stopped. I looked down at this place and saw war. Everybody was "asleep". It looked very barbaric and primitive. I felt the Energy in my back, that completes the descending process, it was pressing me forwards, but I had an ability to stop it with my mind, which is what happened. I saw "them". That very thought shocked me. This very thought of them, not us, not all is one, but them, was individual, and came from me, tearing me apart from my brothers. It was like looking down into a cage below your feet full of monkeys who were fighting each other. Would you want to jump in that cage in order to help some unconscious creatures?
I also felt fear. I knew that this will hurt us. I, personally, had no experience of this kind before. The vibrations were very low, rough and tough down there. And I felt selfish. I did not want to incarnate there. And here is where tears started to run down my physical face during the regression. I felt extreme guilt.
Then I saw my brothers. They didn't stop. No one did. Everyone continued, except me. I know what they felt. It was like a song of love and unity. In this density there was no difference between "them" and "us". We were all in this together, and if there was a call, we answer that call. If there is need to raise the vibrations in some place then we do it.
Anyway, tears were running down my face when I realized that I was selfish! I saw "them"! And I didn't want to go down! And heavy burden of guilt landed in my whole Being.
Then I looked at my brothers. They were so beautiful!!! Not in the apprearance, as we had no form at that moment, but what they are!! They were so beautiful that I was injured right there, at that moment.
I went back to our place of healing and being, but it didn't help. I knew that. I felt the energy that was trying to heal me, but there is little help if one does not allow it. I blocked that energy pretty effective with heavy guilt.
I realized that after a while, and went down a level, in order to heal. That density was very light and unburdensome, but I still felt the guilt. It was not as heavy as "home", but it was there nevertheless, all the time. After a while I realized that, and couldn't stay there either. So I went back to Earth and was sweaping the atmosphere for quite some time. I was healing, I needed that, but it worked really poorly. So I finally incarnated.
During the regression I got this "knowing" that I haven't seen my brothers since that descension in the Roman Empire. I can't handle it, because I cannot face them. I know what they think and feel, and what they think and feel is pure love, pure understanding, and unconditional embracing, but I can't. If I face them, my self would disintegrate by the majesty of their appearance and vibration.
So to the question of why I seek and miss them so much, and why I have difficulties of staying grounded, live in the present moment, it is because I feared to "go down", as I called it during the regression, and I feared to become injured, but it seems like I got injured anyway. I saw "them", I was selfish and I went towards my group. The separation teared me apart from them. And all that was self chosen. And with that I failed. And with that action of not wanting to descend I brought heavy guilt to myself, which is my karmic bond to the Earth and my social memory complex.