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RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - AnthroHeart - 05-01-2014

I thought long and hard about wanting to depart 3D again, and was presented a question/feeling. Do I love the Earth enough to stay? And I said yes, and felt love in me, and got goosebumps. It wasn't about my dog, it wasn't about my mom. It was the world. And do I have enough love for it to not go to a more harmonious place? My answer was yes. I was actually pleading with my higher self to go, whether it be heart attack or kidney failure. I don't feel my soul contract holds me here any longer. At least I don't feel obligated by that. But out of my total free will I love others enough to stay. But I could be wrong about my soul contract. My mom will miss me if I go.

The other day I got the feeling of wanting to depart as well, and passed through a mental test of whether I was sure, and I was sure at that time. However, I'm still here.

This is probably something that will continually come up within me.

Then I thought, who am I to depart? I've done some pretty bad stuff here.


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Unbound - 05-01-2014

(05-01-2014, 05:52 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I thought about wanting to depart 3D again, and was presented a question/feeling. Do I love the Earth enough to stay? And I said yes. It wasn't about my dog, it wasn't about my mom. It was the world. And do I have enough love for it to not go to a more harmonious place? My answer was yes. I was actually pleading with my higher self to go, whether it be heart attack or kidney failure. I don't feel my soul contract holds me here any longer. At least I don't feel obligated by that. But out of my total free will I love others enough to stay. But I could be wrong about my soul contract. My mom will miss me if I go.

This is probably something that will continually come up within me.

The other day I got the feeling of wanting to depart as well, and passed through a mental test of whether I was sure, and I was sure at that time. However, I'm still here.

I can't imagine spending my whole life desiring to end my life, it makes no sense to me. I have been suicidal at times in the past due to severe depression and low self-esteem but it was never to escape and was more of a "punishment and justice" or martyr kind of thing where I thought it would be the greatest service I could give to the world. Sometimes I feel like I don't want to be dealing with my life as it is, but I always remind myself that if I always have that attitude then I will spend my existence, whether incarnate or not, attempting to avoid certain kinds of experiences which will just trap me in the cycle of repeating experiences anyways.

I admit there is a part of me that gets very frustrated and almost angry when I see you striving to "leave" because while I accept you can choose whatever you want to do with your existence, I can't help but think "What a damn waste of potential, love and talent."

It appears to me that you want so much to grow and understand and expand as a person, yet you seem to fear responsibility and avoid any hard work which isn't "enjoyable". I am sure that isn't totally true, but it is how you have portrayed yourself.

Gemini, why are you always trying to run from yourself?


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Jeremy - 05-01-2014

Completely agree with Tanner. Gemini, there comes a time where one has to put their proverbial big boy pants on and run with it. Constantly desiring an escape is precisely why you haven't been granted such because your higher self knows that it's more about escape than completing your assigned lessons. If your time was up, you wouldn't be here yet here you are.

It's up to you and only you on how you wish to spend your remaining days. Not your guides, not your furry friends, and not the Creator. The law of responsibility is what's screaming at ya right now so try to realize this and continue upon this ever so difficult path because honestly, what's the alternative? Would you rather continually yearn for your escape or try to make the most out of the time you have left?


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - AnthroHeart - 05-01-2014

I do want to make the most out of the time I have left.

I just feel uncomfortable energetically nearly constantly.
Having a mom who at times talks about wanting to die doesn't help either.


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Unbound - 05-01-2014

(05-01-2014, 06:22 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I do want to make the most out of the time I have left.

I just feel uncomfortable energetically nearly constantly.
Having a mom who at times talks about wanting to die doesn't help either.

Do you do much breathwork? As in, do you pay attention to your breathing?


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Jeremy - 05-01-2014

But by focusing upon that which will not solve anything nor will it happen until the time is right can inhibit any progress that you could be making in the meantime. Trust me brother, I know life can suck. It's pretty dreadful for me right now also with the realization that I'm about to yet again lose my independence and be relegated to living with my parents again barring some miracle. But I know that dwelling upon such a situation that I am powerless to control solves nothing. In the end, I can still provide the service to the patients that I help and to those friends with whom I help.

I'd rather struggle and bring a smile to anothers face then take a job that pays more yet lacks substance and fails to provide what I would consider a worthwhile service to others. So I struggle and work two jobs nearly killing myself with exhaustion and negating the possibility of finding a mate because of it.

The entire premise behind the STO polarity is sacrifice brother. Putting yourself into the uncomfortable position so that an other self can be helped. Giving up ones desires so that an other selfs can be fulfilled. A sacrifice that hurts at times and a lot even more times but knowing that you helped someone at the end is what makes it all worth it.


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - AnthroHeart - 05-01-2014

I get short of breath from time to time, but I haven't really done breathwork.
Sounds like something that would help.

This energy (imbalance is it?) doesn't feel like anxiety.
Paradoxically I feel a certain amount of peace inside.
Just my body seems to be reacting to this energy,
causing a restlessness.
Strange that I feel a peace and restless at the same time.

Or rather should I say that I notice there is peace within me,
yet I feel uncomfortable. Peace as in I'm not worried.

That's it. I don't feel I am worried, nor have anxiety about the future.
Yet physically my body is reacting to this energy, causing discomfort.
It's a paradox.


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Unbound - 05-01-2014

(05-01-2014, 06:35 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I get short of breath from time to time, but I haven't really done breathwork.
Sounds like something that would help.

This energy (imbalance is it?) doesn't feel like anxiety.
Paradoxically I feel a certain amount of peace inside.
Just my body seems to be reacting to this energy,
causing a restlessness.
Strange that I feel a peace and restless at the same time.

Or rather should I say that I notice there is peace within me,
yet I feel uncomfortable. Peace as in I'm not worried.

That's it. I don't feel I am worried, nor have anxiety about the future.
Yet physically my body is reacting to this energy, causing discomfort.
It's a paradox.

Okay, I have a suggestion for you if you want to use it:

Breathe and focus on breathing. Keep a continuous flow of breath going and focus entirely on that breath and breathe.

If you want to clear energy that is dissonant within you, breath it out hard and keep breathing out until you are nearly forced to take in a breath. Take in that breath naturally and continue to breath in a continuous flow. Repeat this exercise to clear energy as much as possible or as desired.

Breathe in to fill the space within you with light, positive energy and oxygen, both to help stimulate the dissonant energy to moving out on the out-breath. Breath in and hold it in while focusing on the feeling of your breath and energy filling your body, breathe out relaxed without forcing it.

Do your best to keep a steady rhythm of breathing because rhythm builds momentum. You may feel yourself get lighter or light headed, things may become uncomfortable in your body or you may get a very intense desire to stretch or twitch. If it is possible for you, try to remain still and instead of allowing your physical body to do these things, let your mind imagine that your body is doing them, without actually doing them.

Do these exercises daily, many times daily if you can. Use your breath for and with everything you do. Realize how your breath works when you are exercising or sitting still or doing an activity like being on the computer or reading or looking at artwork. Become conscious of your breath.

That last part of my suggestion is to focus solely on this type of meditation and working with your breath for at least a month or two. This is the really crucial part because it is what makes the practice especially effective in its own way. Remember, breathing out can release energy from you, it is using the throat chakra in a healthy way and breathing in can empower you and fill you completely with the energy of the Creator. Use these, if it suits you. Heart


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - AnthroHeart - 05-01-2014

Jeremy, life doesn't suck for me at all, except for the dissonant energy.
My job doesn't allow me to be STO as much as say healthcare would,
but it's not stressful, and it gives me the time to pursue my interests.

I am definitely doing the breathwork. I didn't realize before
that it was energy I did not agree with that kept causing my feelings.
I couldn't understand it because life is swell for me.
I thought I didn't take responsibility at work, but I do.
I do more than I give myself credit for.
I honestly thought I was going to depart in peace, as there was nothing on my mind I was escaping from. Turns out it was the energy.

This energy feels pretty stuck in my solar plexus. I'll continue doing the breath work.


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Unbound - 05-01-2014

(05-01-2014, 06:59 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Jeremy, life doesn't suck for me at all, except for the dissonant energy.
My job doesn't allow me to be STO as much as say healthcare would,
but it's not stressful, and it gives me the time to pursue my interests.

I am definitely doing the breathwork. I didn't realize before
that it was energy I did not agree with that kept causing my feelings.
I couldn't understand it because life is swell for me.
I thought I didn't take responsibility at work, but I do.
I do more than I give myself credit for.

This energy feels pretty stuck in my solar plexus. I'll continue doing the breath work.

It is challenging to work with one practice consistently, but I think you will find it rewarding. Breathing is both enjoyable and essential and learning to understand it consciously is something which can open many doors in the self.


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - AnthroHeart - 05-01-2014

This exercise may have just saved my sanity. I just need to remember to do it. It's painful but I think it's working.


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Unbound - 05-01-2014

Aha I will remind you consistently, if you like. Tongue


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - xise - 05-01-2014

(05-01-2014, 06:32 PM)Jeremy Wrote: It's pretty dreadful for me right now also with the realization that I'm about to yet again lose my independence and be relegated to living with my parents again barring some miracle. But I know that dwelling upon such a situation that I am powerless to control solves nothing. In the end, I can still provide the service to the patients that I help and to those friends with whom I help.

Join the club mate Smile. I've been living with parents for about 12 months of which only 6 of it was planned (due to transition from west to east coast and bar exam admission stuff...but not getting a job after becoming a member of the bar extended that). Bschool was supposed to be a definite out come July, but despite a 97th percentile gmat score the best I got was a waitlist (of which I'll find out more in 2 weeks). Given that there's no legal jobs out there, it's quite possible that until I get my own law firm up and running, living with mom and dad it is (probably at least 9 months). But the past year has been unexpectedly amazing. I've healed the relationship with my parents and its beautiful. I do want to move out though as the independence thing does get old.

You were randomly in a long dream of mine btw the other night. We were all in some sort of boarding house and when we went to check out our rooms we realized that it was just one big bunkhouse. You and I both looked at each other when we realized we had no privacy to bring people back to our place haha. (I get so many dreams each day that I don't post them all). The majority of the dream didn't deal with us interacting though, we both did our own thing. Just thought it was fitting to share at this time.


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - AnthroHeart - 05-01-2014

Maybe this uncomfortable energy I feel is the kundalini. I feel it sometimes in my solar plexus, and sometimes in my heart. Occasionally in my throat and sometimes in my 3rd eye. It's uncomfortable with my solar plexus.


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Unbound - 05-01-2014

(05-01-2014, 07:51 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Maybe this uncomfortable energy I feel is the kundalini. I feel it sometimes in my solar plexus, and sometimes in my heart. Occasionally in my throat and sometimes in my 3rd eye. It's uncomfortable with my solar plexus.

If you want my opinion, stop trying to "figure it out". Just observe it, feel it, and breathe, breathe, breathe.


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Parsons - 05-02-2014

Oh my... I was holding my breath as well. I was subconsciously doing it for many different reasons. Eg, concentrating on what to type. I think I perceived the problem years ago, but obviously I forgot about it.


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Unbound - 05-02-2014

(05-02-2014, 05:30 AM)Parsons Wrote: Oh my... I was holding my breath as well. I was subconsciously doing it for many different reasons. Eg, concentrating on what to type. I think I perceived the problem years ago, but obviously I forgot about it.

Breathe in to everything you do. Smile


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Adonai One - 05-02-2014

It's more enjoyable than sitting around disincarnately barely interacting with others. This is where it is at. This is where the universe centered. The only way to progress efficiently is through worlds like this one.

The other sixth-density beings that don't incarnate just take from memories from others that do. Either way, you will have to experience illusions to progress.


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - reeay - 05-02-2014

From my 3D perspective (lol we the 3D plebs of the cosmos) I think of mothers and fathers and other loved ones doing all they can possibly do for their child or others - even if it may mean sacrificing or potentially injuring themselves. That kind of love - that which is *not* about fear of depolarizing or potentially becoming stuck in 3d, of suffering in the 3d sense or whatnot.

'How may I/we be of service to others' - all else is secondary. Plus, you've got your spirit complex light saber to keep you protected lol.


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Adonai One - 05-02-2014

Why is sacrifice a key element to you?


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - reeay - 05-02-2014

What makes you think it is a key element to me?


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Adonai One - 05-02-2014

A trend. You've used the word martyrdom frequently with a positive connotation.


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Fang - 05-02-2014

Connotations are provided by the reader of the text.


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - reeay - 05-02-2014

Nope I don't use martyrdom frequently.


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Adonai One - 05-03-2014

Not frequently but you have. I refer to simply one time you mentioned how you thought a 4th-density people would, I paraphrase, "would help each other to the extent of martyrdom." Perhaps I contort the post by memory. Anyways, merely a curiosity.


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - reeay - 05-03-2014

That post was highlighting the reductionistic 4D stereotypes often presented on this forum.

e.g.,
3D = cracking 4D-6D psychology & what makes them tick
4D = martyrdom
5D = golden broth drinking buddies
6D = sungasms, etc.

I'm joking lol but not joking about the absurdity.


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - AnthroHeart - 05-03-2014

Thanks Tanner. Those bad thoughts/feelings still come up every so often, but I try not to dwell on them, and they pass. I'm still doing the breathing. I'm here now, so am making the most of it.


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Billy - 05-05-2014

I find myself in the same boat as Gemini quite often. And I don't know why. I've noticed I've been carrying a lot of restlessness and tension around with me as of late, almost as if I'm waiting for something to happen. I've been unable to sleep because I keep saying things like, "I don't want to rest anymore, I want to live darn it". I guess I feel as though life is mundane and my appetite for life is not being filled. Breathing is helpful. I think it's important to know where your breathing from as well. Diaphragm, right?


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - AnthroHeart - 05-05-2014

(05-05-2014, 12:49 AM)Folk-love Wrote: I find myself in the same boat as Gemini quite often. And I don't know why. I've noticed I've been carrying a lot of restlessness and tension around with me as of late, almost as if I'm waiting for something to happen. I've been unable to sleep because I keep saying things like, "I don't want to rest anymore, I want to live darn it". I guess I feel as though life is mundane and my appetite for life is not being filled. Breathing is helpful. I think it's important to know where your breathing from as well. Diaphragm, right?

It's a little frustrating for me because when I've had mystical experiences, they haven't been fun. I've felt bliss a couple of times, and once in a dream. Once was an overpowering bliss in my heart.

But usually I've had to face the dark side of myself, thinking that my friends were going to hurt me.

I sleep well otherwise. I enjoy my sleep time, because I get to dream. Despite some disturbing dreams, most of them are beneficial, and much more a joy to be in than real life.

Right now I do have some restlessness due to my sensitivity to the Field. It's all around, but I feel that I feel it. Either that or I'm picking up other people's anxieties, just translating it differently. As I don't feel anxious. Just restless.

I want more magic in my life. In the past I was tempted to try to become an adept, and I've been called an adept due to my energy sensitivity, but I don't feel like one.

My higher self must be laughing at me right now, being all confused and such.


RE: Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density? - Billy - 05-05-2014

(05-05-2014, 05:09 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I want more magic in my life.

Took the words right out of my mouth. Makes me think of a Nick Drake song, 'Made to love magic'. Lets hope we both find some magic in our lives, you feel me? Haha, good luck dude Smile