Quote:[font=Helvetica, sans-serif]The Unsung Heroes of Abolition
By Adam Hochschild
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In 1787, approximately three quarters of the people on Earth lived under some form of enslavement, serfdom, debt bondage or indentured servitude. This was the year the popular movement against the British slave trade suddenly ignited. There were no slaves in Britain itself, but the vast majority of its people accepted slavery in the British West Indies as perfectly normal.
It took an unusual streak of independence to challenge this assumption. Who were the abolitionists and where did they get the revolutionary idea that slavery was wrong? Prominent campaigners like William Wilberforce and Olaudah Equiano are well documented. This gallery is an introduction to some of the other people who played important roles in this pioneering movement for human rights.

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Mid to late nineteenth century

Wood-engraving
[font=Arial, Verdana, 'Helvetica sans-serif']A framed print of this engraving hangs in the bar of the Falcon, Clapham Junction, as a reminder of those prominent members of the Clapham Sectwho campaigned successfully for the abolition of the slave trade. As well as Wilberforce and other notables, it depicts Thomas Fowler Buxton, the abolitionist whose memorial drinking fountain now stands in Victoria Tower Gardens, Westminster.
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Quote:10 Little Known Heroes of the Holocaust
When we think of Holocaust heroes, most of us think of Oskar Schindler and his famous list. Yet Schindler was just one of many men and women who took a stand against Hitler’s Final Solution. Here are ten little known heroes who risked everything they had for their fellow human beings.

Quote:The Holocaust was a time of overwhelming terror and enduring grief.  The ultimate expression of man’s inhumanity with hardly a trace of human kindness to lighten that darkness.   However there were some deeds of courage and compassion during the Holocaust that one can consider when contemplating humanity's  past and hope for the future.

The following are only some of the extraordinary men and women, who, at very great personal risk have acted to save lives.

Most of their deeds were unnoticed and not acknowledged during their lifetimes but many have been honored by Israel’s Yad Vashem memorial with the title “Righteous among the Nations” or “Righteous Gentiles” recognizing those non-Jews who helped save Jews from the Holocaust.

Quote:Remembering four heroes of the Holocaust

It is my deepest hope that the book will cause many to dig into the real history of these remarkable heroes.

Q\uo Wrote:You journey homeward. How shall you journey?
That is the question of third density. Shall you
journey in the light, seeking ever to become more of
service, more loving, more giving, more aware of the
love within each moment? Or shall you enjoy the
dark path where the self is seen immediately as the
Creator and all other selves are seen as those who
would worship the Creator in you. Thus, the dark
path is one where each who follows it attempts to
coerce, manipulate, or otherwise use all other selves,
to tell them what to do and to make sure they are
useful to the self or moved out of the way of self.
This also is a valid path, yet it is a dark path and a
bloody path. There are those who prefer it.
We are not those. We are those of the radiant path.

(02-16-2015, 03:35 PM)Ashim Wrote: This makes no sense.
Why do you not just stay on the threads that are current, answer the questions (instead of cherry picking the comments you wish to reply to), and confront the arguments.

(02-16-2015, 03:35 PM)Ashim Wrote: Just give honest answers to honest questions whilst refraining from the expression of personal bias.

(02-16-2015, 03:35 PM)Ashim Wrote: Are you going to delete your signature  or not?

(02-16-2015, 03:35 PM)Ashim Wrote: This makes no sense.

(02-16-2015, 03:53 PM)Ashim Wrote: No. really, are you going to change your signature as a result of the discourse here?

(02-16-2015, 07:40 PM)Yera Wrote: Is no moderator paying attention to the fact that this thread has been completely derailed and this discussion belongs in another part of the forum? Along with numerous other threads overtaken by particular individuals?

Stop stinking up every single part of the forum with this childish argument. It's like having someone take a crap on your plate while you're eating dinner.

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(02-16-2015, 07:53 PM)Monica Wrote: Since we've been given guidelines from Ra, how do we determine which are more important, in any given situation? Answering the call of the victims, or allowing the oppressors to express their free will?

Does the fact that oppressors, by definition, are violating the free will of their victims enter into the equation at all? Or. as some members have recently said, is respecting free will always paramount?

(02-16-2015, 09:43 PM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote: 21 posts, beginning with Ashim's were moved to the Eating Tomatoes is STS thread.  

(02-17-2015, 11:08 AM)outerheaven Wrote: Good question.

In my heart of hearts I want to say no -- that generally, those who employ means of violence and coercion ultimately with the goal of serving others are not STS.

Or at least don't start as STS. Maybe these entities start off leaning more towards STO intentions -- desiring to help others -- but being immersed in dark situations, gradually become polarized on dichotomies like "human nature," "the strong and the weak" and slowly become more STS-leaning.

What I'm trying to say is, war is a great catalyst, right? Thrown into desperate times really helps you along in deciding whether to view an experience as a positive or negative. I see entities resorting to violence to help others as being unharvestable in either polarity, generally speaking.

On the other hand, I'm sure there are STS entities who would gladly take any viable opportunity to explore their powers of control over others. It "feels" like these entities would be easier to sniff out, though ... doesn't it?

Let's take Che Guevarra and Fidel Castro for example. I'd put Che -- a doctor, strong desire to help others, ultimately resorts to violence in an attempt to eradicate oppression, travels the continent to teach means of resistance and armed warfare to others -- in the unharvestable, STO-leaning category. If I had to guess, Fidel was STS from the start or quickly became more and more polarized towards STS once he helped overthrow Batista in '59; within a short period of time he was as absolute a dictator as Batista ever was, etc.

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On "human nature," "the strong and the weak":

I feel like our answer to these dichotomies typify "the choice" we make in polarizing. When we find ourselves in situations where we feel we have an answer ... e.g. "human nature is evil," "human nature is good" ... we're in the midst of some quality catalyst!

When I lived in NYC, I was a social worker for the homeless. Obviously I started down that path with strong STO intentions. Maybe even aggressive STO intentions, like the aforementioned group of liberators and revolutionaries -- I was angry that so few were content living with so much, while so many suffered with so little. Obsessed with justice, to the point where the sword becomes a reasonable answer.

But over the years, as I went deeper into the belly of the beast of my employer, I found myself more and more in a position where I was being asked/initiated to view human nature differently; that there were those who produced and those who consumed. Those that could help themselves, and those that couldn't. The more responsibility I gained, I began to work with more influential people in the agency, and realized that they had some seriously dark ideas about the people they were there to "serve." It was like one had to have these ideas to succeed in the agency; thinking otherwise, you would quickly be torn apart by both colleagues and clients.

I could feel the darkness enveloping around me. As I gained more "power" in the agency I became more an object of hatred, a symbol of oppression, for the clients. I entertained the ideas I was being asked to adopt to make my job easier. But in the end, I felt repulsed by everything that was going on, and got the hell out of there -- both the job and the city, LOL.

So, I hope you can see the parallel I'm trying to draw...!

(02-17-2015, 01:48 PM)Monica Wrote: But I was actually referring to activists who peacefully try to champion the oppressed, such as the people who sheltered Jews during the holocaust, or those who helped black 'slaves' escape. They did so peacefully.

The question is: Are they actually doing something STS, because they are infringing on the 'free will' of the oppressor? In other words, which is the higher priority: Answering the call of the oppressed (peacefully work to free the 'slaves') or respecting the free will of the oppressor (let him keep the slaves/kill the Jews) ?

(02-17-2015, 03:13 PM)outerheaven Wrote:

(02-17-2015, 01:48 PM)Monica Wrote: But I was actually referring to activists who peacefully try to champion the oppressed, such as the people who sheltered Jews during the holocaust, or those who helped black 'slaves' escape. They did so peacefully.

The question is: Are they actually doing something STS, because they are infringing on the 'free will' of the oppressor? In other words, which is the higher priority: Answering the call of the oppressed (peacefully work to free the 'slaves') or respecting the free will of the oppressor (let him keep the slaves/kill the Jews) ?

Oh! My mistake. Well, in that case, I'd answer "no!"

I couldn't find the quote in LOO that came to mind -- but when Don was asking Ra about the nature of their 5D negative attack, Don asked something along the lines if granting the entity's desire for them to quit channeling Ra would actually be a STO action. Ra replied -- and this is the quote I'd really like to find -- that getting the information from Ra and out to others would serve more entities, and thus was a "higher" polarized STO choice.

Hopefully I didn't butcher it too bad.

So the way I see it -- help a few negative entities with their murderous rampage -- or spread love/light to as many as you feasibly can help, all the while being a beacon of hope and love for others that may be inspired by your actions and rise to the occasion themselves. I would have to guess that the latter is more of a service than the former.

(02-17-2015, 04:03 PM)Ashim Wrote: This is indeed a very interesting and quite complex subject.

North Korea springs to mind.
This is a society where people at the lower end of the spectrum are treated like animals.
The prisons look horrific, many of the stories we hear are desperate beyond belief.

Why do developed countries not just send in the troops and liberate these people?

Could it however be that this environment is actually exactly the right 'classroom' for these human beings to develop and grow?

How does a young soul learn to value 'life' or 'freedom'?

I'll leave it to the forum to ponder.

This is the story of Shin Dong-hyuk.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_Dong-hyuk

(02-17-2015, 04:11 PM)Monica Wrote:

(02-17-2015, 04:03 PM)Ashim Wrote: This is indeed a very interesting and quite complex subject.

North Korea springs to mind.
This is a society where people at the lower end of the spectrum are treated like animals.
The prisons look horrific, many of the stories we hear are desperate beyond belief.

Why do developed countries not just send in the troops and liberate these people?

Could it however be that this environment is actually exactly the right 'classroom' for these human beings to develop and grow?

How does a young soul learn to value 'life' or 'freedom'?

I'll leave it to the forum to ponder.

This is the story of Shin Dong-hyuk.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_Dong-hyuk

Good point. We know that, ultimately, this classroom has its purpose. But isn't part of our curriculum learning to respond to catalyst?

There are really 2 issues here: Liberating the oppressed, and actually being an oppressor.

We don't all have an opportunity to liberate those oppressed people in North Korea. But what about those who do have an opportunity? And, what about the people living in North Korea who are actually doing the oppressing?

(02-17-2015, 04:44 PM)Ashim Wrote: Ra has a slightly different take on what you say:

Ra: I am Ra. The catalyst, and all catalyst, is designed to offer experience. This experience in your density may be loved and accepted or it may be controlled. These are the two paths. When neither path is chosen the catalyst fails in its design and the entity proceeds until catalyst strikes it which causes it to form a bias towards acceptance and love or separation and control. There is no lack of space/time in which this catalyst may work.