Quote:9.4 Questioner: The way I understand the process of evolution [of a] planetary population is that [a] population has a certain amount of time to progress. This is generally divided into three 25,000-year cycles. At the end of 75,000 years the planet progresses itself. What caused this situation to come about… preciseness of the years, 25,000 years, etc.? What set this up to begin with?

Ra: I am Ra. Visualize, if you will, the particular energy which, outward flowing and inward coagulating, formed the tiny realm of the creation governed by your Council of Saturn. Continue seeing the rhythm of this process. The living flow creates a rhythm which is as inevitable as one of your timepieces. Each of your planetary entities began the first cycle when the energy nexus was able in that environment to support such mind/body experiences. Thus, each of your planetary entities is on a different cyclical schedule as you might call it. The timing of these cycles is a measurement equal to a portion of intelligent energy.

This intelligent energy offers a type of clock. The cycles move as precisely as a clock strikes your hour. Thus, the gateway from intelligent energy to intelligent infinity opens regardless of circumstance on the striking of the hour.

(04-16-2015, 09:53 AM)JustLikeYou Wrote: This quotation refers to harvest. Ra says that during harvest, all entities undergoing the process enter into their violet ray body, rather than the standard indigo ray body we enter upon death in non-harvest situations. The difference is precisely the same as Intelligent Infinity versus Intelligent Energy. In other words, when the clock strikes the hour, we all enter into contact with Intelligent Infinity, and our ability to exist and flourish as we step closer and closer to the endless mystery of the Creator determines the next experience we will have. In the indigo ray body, we can only change the shape and contents of our existing density into one more suited to us. In the violet ray body, we may cross the threshold from one density to the next. That's why Ra says that opening this gateway gives us "unfettered tread."

Enlightened masters who are ready to pass on typically do so precisely as they choose because they have consistent contact with Intelligent Infinity. We, however, who are not enlightened masters must wait for the clock to strike the hour.

(04-17-2015, 12:31 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: I honestly believe this has already happened, the door has come and gone. Time to wait for the next major cycle.

(04-17-2015, 12:38 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Is that 700 years of apparent time to Ra? Or to them is it more like 2 of our years?

Quote:40.8 Questioner: Then what will be the time of transition on this planet from third to fourth density?

Ra: I am Ra. This is difficult to estimate due to the uncharacteristic anomalies of this transition. There are at this space/time nexus beings incarnate which have begun fourth-density work. However, the third-density climate of planetary consciousness is retarding the process. At this particular nexus the possibility/probability vortices indicate somewhere between 100 and 700 of your years as transition period. This cannot be accurate due to the volatility of your peoples at this space/time.

(04-17-2015, 01:09 PM)APeacefulWarrior Wrote:

(04-17-2015, 12:38 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Is that 700 years of apparent time to Ra? Or to them is it more like 2 of our years?

Here's the direct quote:

Quote:40.8 Questioner: Then what will be the time of transition on this planet from third to fourth density?

Ra: I am Ra. This is difficult to estimate due to the uncharacteristic anomalies of this transition. There are at this space/time nexus beings incarnate which have begun fourth-density work. However, the third-density climate of planetary consciousness is retarding the process. At this particular nexus the possibility/probability vortices indicate somewhere between 100 and 700 of your years as transition period. This cannot be accurate due to the volatility of your peoples at this space/time.

So, yeah, up to 700 of our years.  The smoothness of the transition into 4D is, to large extent, in humanity's own hands.  And, I suspect, we may also have influence over the bounty of the Harvest as well.  Basically, I'm pretty sure that the faster humanity figures out how to get over its remaining differences and start working together for the greater good of the species and planet, the faster\smoother\bountifuller the Harvest will be.

(I just really wish someone had asked him to expand more on those "uncharacteristic anomalies," but that probably would have been treading in Law of Confusion territory...)

(04-17-2015, 12:31 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: I think there's a difference between opening your own personal gateway to intelligent infinity through the energy center and this 'cosmic' opening that Ra is talking about.

If you observe clockwork in the nature of the way Ra describes it.



See that smaller or larger cogs each have different rates with which they cycle, yet all are turning together. I think this is similar to how our galaxy is structured. However, I believe the opening of the pathway in this regard doesn't result in harvest per se, but rather it is an opportunity for harvest. I think it's more as though a path through the labyrinth suddenly opens, cutting its way to the center. There still needs to be the drive, will and capacity for acceptance of the light for an entity to go down this path. Thus, though the door opens, not everyone may enter.

I honestly believe this has already happened, the door has come and gone. Time to wait for the next major cycle.

(04-17-2015, 02:17 PM)I_Am_The_One Wrote: Also The gate is open, the wave of love is here. Will you accept it and flow into fourth density.

Quote:40.8 Questioner: Then what will be the time of transition on this planet from third to fourth density?

Ra: I am Ra. This is difficult to estimate due to the uncharacteristic anomalies of this transition. There are at this space/time nexus beings incarnate which have begun fourth-density work. However, the third-density climate of planetary consciousness is retarding the process. At this particular nexus the possibility/probability vortices indicate somewhere between 100 and 700 of your years as transition period. This cannot be accurate due to the volatility of your peoples at this space/time.

Quote:17.29 Questioner: Am I to understand that the harvest will occur in the year 2011, or will it be spread?

Ra: I am Ra. This is an approximation. We have stated we have difficulty with your time/space. This is an appropriate probable/possible time/space nexus for harvest. Those who are not in incarnation at this time will be included in the harvest.

Quote:9.4 Questioner: The way I understand the process of evolution [of a] planetary population is that [a] population has a certain amount of time to progress. This is generally divided into three 25,000-year cycles. At the end of 75,000 years the planet progresses itself. What caused this situation to come about… preciseness of the years, 25,000 years, etc.? What set this up to begin with?

Ra: I am Ra. Visualize, if you will, the particular energy which, outward flowing and inward coagulating, formed the tiny realm of the creation governed by your Council of Saturn. Continue seeing the rhythm of this process. The living flow creates a rhythm which is as inevitable as one of your timepieces. Each of your planetary entities began the first cycle when the energy nexus was able in that environment to support such mind/body experiences. Thus, each of your planetary entities is on a different cyclical schedule as you might call it. The timing of these cycles is a measurement equal to a portion of intelligent energy.

This intelligent energy offers a type of clock. The cycles move as precisely as a clock strikes your hour. Thus, the gateway from intelligent energy to intelligent infinity opens regardless of circumstance on the striking of the hour.

(04-17-2015, 02:13 PM)I_Am_The_One Wrote: This is majorly correct, though instead of cogs, Imagine vibrations, that vibrate into light. Light condenses into particle, and further forms into matter. Now consider that matter, is still a particle, still a photon, and still a vibration. Then imagine this vibration could be a wave as well. Then consider is this vibration also conscience, which gives forth to thought, which is a vibration. This vibration is created by the creator and it is called love or logos. So we are all one in more ways then we see. You helped me realize just now the "cogs" are the focus or platonic solids.

(04-17-2015, 02:26 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: I still view harvest a little differently. I see the harvest as like a sonic boom, the transitional period is the shockwave as it travels outwards permeating everything.

Quote:40.8 Questioner: Then what will be the time of transition on this planet from third to fourth density?

Ra: I am Ra. This is difficult to estimate due to the uncharacteristic anomalies of this transition. There are at this space/time nexus beings incarnate which have begun fourth-density work. However, the third-density climate of planetary consciousness is retarding the process. At this particular nexus the possibility/probability vortices indicate somewhere between 100 and 700 of your years as transition period. This cannot be accurate due to the volatility of your peoples at this space/time.

Quote:17.29 Questioner: Am I to understand that the harvest will occur in the year 2011, or will it be spread?

Ra: I am Ra. This is an approximation. We have stated we have difficulty with your time/space. This is an appropriate probable/possible time/space nexus for harvest. Those who are not in incarnation at this time will be included in the harvest.

In the second quote, it appears to me that Ra is suggesting there is a particular time/space in which harvest occurs, whereas the transition period refers to the process of the planetary entity 'upgrading' to fourth density as it becomes transformed by being in fourth density space/time continuum. Thus, it seems to me harvest is an event which happens in time/space but that doesn't necessarily mean that it will manifest in space/time the same for all entities.

Quote:9.4 Questioner: The way I understand the process of evolution [of a] planetary population is that [a] population has a certain amount of time to progress. This is generally divided into three 25,000-year cycles. At the end of 75,000 years the planet progresses itself. What caused this situation to come about… preciseness of the years, 25,000 years, etc.? What set this up to begin with?

Ra: I am Ra. Visualize, if you will, the particular energy which, outward flowing and inward coagulating, formed the tiny realm of the creation governed by your Council of Saturn. Continue seeing the rhythm of this process. The living flow creates a rhythm which is as inevitable as one of your timepieces. Each of your planetary entities began the first cycle when the energy nexus was able in that environment to support such mind/body experiences. Thus, each of your planetary entities is on a different cyclical schedule as you might call it. The timing of these cycles is a measurement equal to a portion of intelligent energy.

This intelligent energy offers a type of clock. The cycles move as precisely as a clock strikes your hour. Thus, the gateway from intelligent energy to intelligent infinity opens regardless of circumstance on the striking of the hour.

Where it says planetary entities, I believe it refers to all the individual entities on the planet as well as each planet itself. I think that the harvest is something that occurs in time/space, opens, then closes, but then that has to manifest through all of the entities who are being harvested. Therefore the transitional period which is the time it takes for the time/space harvest event to fully manifest in space/time which will coincide with the emergence of the planet in to full fourth density.

Oh, and I believe that the harvest was the period from late 2011 to late 2012.

(04-17-2015, 02:35 PM)I_Am_The_One Wrote:

(04-17-2015, 02:26 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: I still view harvest a little differently. I see the harvest as like a sonic boom, the transitional period is the shockwave as it travels outwards permeating everything.

Quote:40.8 Questioner: Then what will be the time of transition on this planet from third to fourth density?

Ra: I am Ra. This is difficult to estimate due to the uncharacteristic anomalies of this transition. There are at this space/time nexus beings incarnate which have begun fourth-density work. However, the third-density climate of planetary consciousness is retarding the process. At this particular nexus the possibility/probability vortices indicate somewhere between 100 and 700 of your years as transition period. This cannot be accurate due to the volatility of your peoples at this space/time.

Quote:17.29 Questioner: Am I to understand that the harvest will occur in the year 2011, or will it be spread?

Ra: I am Ra. This is an approximation. We have stated we have difficulty with your time/space. This is an appropriate probable/possible time/space nexus for harvest. Those who are not in incarnation at this time will be included in the harvest.

In the second quote, it appears to me that Ra is suggesting there is a particular time/space in which harvest occurs, whereas the transition period refers to the process of the planetary entity 'upgrading' to fourth density as it becomes transformed by being in fourth density space/time continuum. Thus, it seems to me harvest is an event which happens in time/space but that doesn't necessarily mean that it will manifest in space/time the same for all entities.

Quote:9.4 Questioner: The way I understand the process of evolution [of a] planetary population is that [a] population has a certain amount of time to progress. This is generally divided into three 25,000-year cycles. At the end of 75,000 years the planet progresses itself. What caused this situation to come about… preciseness of the years, 25,000 years, etc.? What set this up to begin with?

Ra: I am Ra. Visualize, if you will, the particular energy which, outward flowing and inward coagulating, formed the tiny realm of the creation governed by your Council of Saturn. Continue seeing the rhythm of this process. The living flow creates a rhythm which is as inevitable as one of your timepieces. Each of your planetary entities began the first cycle when the energy nexus was able in that environment to support such mind/body experiences. Thus, each of your planetary entities is on a different cyclical schedule as you might call it. The timing of these cycles is a measurement equal to a portion of intelligent energy.

This intelligent energy offers a type of clock. The cycles move as precisely as a clock strikes your hour. Thus, the gateway from intelligent energy to intelligent infinity opens regardless of circumstance on the striking of the hour.

Where it says planetary entities, I believe it refers to all the individual entities on the planet as well as each planet itself. I think that the harvest is something that occurs in time/space, opens, then closes, but then that has to manifest through all of the entities who are being harvested. Therefore the transitional period which is the time it takes for the time/space harvest event to fully manifest in space/time which will coincide with the emergence of the planet in to full fourth density.

Oh, and I believe that the harvest was the period from late 2011 to late 2012.

I see where your coming from for sure. So are you saying that it is immediate in time/ space but then takes hundreds of years to manifest on the space/time side? If so It sounds like what both sides are stating are correct. I may not be understanding you though. It seems to me that with dual activated bodies, the harvest could just be a "switch" from 3rd density energy to say, to 4d. What is your opinion on the harvest and dual activated bodies, incarnate now? I know I inhibit one of these bodies.

(04-17-2015, 02:02 PM)I_Am_The_One Wrote: Definitely agree, would have been great to know more about these anomalies. I mean I can take a stab, but it be way better to know what Ra thought. From his view. I believe a lot of so called anomalies, come in large part, from Orions Sabotaging the vibrations of the planet. Like HARRP, The Poisons they release in the air. Artificial food. Flouride in toothpaste, and drinking water. Pharmecuticals. You name it. We really need to wake up here. Bring the Light forth!

(04-17-2015, 02:42 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:

(04-17-2015, 02:35 PM)I_Am_The_One Wrote:

(04-17-2015, 02:26 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: I still view harvest a little differently. I see the harvest as like a sonic boom, the transitional period is the shockwave as it travels outwards permeating everything.

Quote:40.8 Questioner: Then what will be the time of transition on this planet from third to fourth density?

Ra: I am Ra. This is difficult to estimate due to the uncharacteristic anomalies of this transition. There are at this space/time nexus beings incarnate which have begun fourth-density work. However, the third-density climate of planetary consciousness is retarding the process. At this particular nexus the possibility/probability vortices indicate somewhere between 100 and 700 of your years as transition period. This cannot be accurate due to the volatility of your peoples at this space/time.

Quote:17.29 Questioner: Am I to understand that the harvest will occur in the year 2011, or will it be spread?

Ra: I am Ra. This is an approximation. We have stated we have difficulty with your time/space. This is an appropriate probable/possible time/space nexus for harvest. Those who are not in incarnation at this time will be included in the harvest.

In the second quote, it appears to me that Ra is suggesting there is a particular time/space in which harvest occurs, whereas the transition period refers to the process of the planetary entity 'upgrading' to fourth density as it becomes transformed by being in fourth density space/time continuum. Thus, it seems to me harvest is an event which happens in time/space but that doesn't necessarily mean that it will manifest in space/time the same for all entities.

Quote:9.4 Questioner: The way I understand the process of evolution [of a] planetary population is that [a] population has a certain amount of time to progress. This is generally divided into three 25,000-year cycles. At the end of 75,000 years the planet progresses itself. What caused this situation to come about… preciseness of the years, 25,000 years, etc.? What set this up to begin with?

Ra: I am Ra. Visualize, if you will, the particular energy which, outward flowing and inward coagulating, formed the tiny realm of the creation governed by your Council of Saturn. Continue seeing the rhythm of this process. The living flow creates a rhythm which is as inevitable as one of your timepieces. Each of your planetary entities began the first cycle when the energy nexus was able in that environment to support such mind/body experiences. Thus, each of your planetary entities is on a different cyclical schedule as you might call it. The timing of these cycles is a measurement equal to a portion of intelligent energy.

This intelligent energy offers a type of clock. The cycles move as precisely as a clock strikes your hour. Thus, the gateway from intelligent energy to intelligent infinity opens regardless of circumstance on the striking of the hour.

Where it says planetary entities, I believe it refers to all the individual entities on the planet as well as each planet itself. I think that the harvest is something that occurs in time/space, opens, then closes, but then that has to manifest through all of the entities who are being harvested. Therefore the transitional period which is the time it takes for the time/space harvest event to fully manifest in space/time which will coincide with the emergence of the planet in to full fourth density.

Oh, and I believe that the harvest was the period from late 2011 to late 2012.

I see where your coming from for sure. So are you saying that it is immediate in time/ space but then takes hundreds of years to manifest on the space/time side? If so It sounds like what both sides are stating are correct. I may not be understanding you though. It seems to me that with dual activated bodies, the harvest could just be a "switch" from 3rd density energy to say, to 4d. What is your opinion on the harvest and dual activated bodies, incarnate now? I know I inhibit one of these bodies.

Yes, that's basically what I'm saying. This is kind of hard to describe. I basically see dual-activated bodies as well, dual, it's like having two bodies. You are active in both space/time 3D and space/time 4D but just because the body is activated doesn't necessarily mean it is fully so. I believe dual-activation is something which is done to start 4D work while still incarnate in a 3D body. Thus, since you were born with it, I don't see there needing to be any 'switch', since I believe all the densities always exist and there is a difference between our potentiation/activation of bodies and the existence of the densities. Thus, I believe those whom are born dual-activated are born more or less already harvestable.

Therefore, there would be not as much difference for one like that. However, there will be effects of activation and initiation that comes with harvest for that is the opening of the gateway to full fourth density which will naturally begin the process of the fusion of your two bodies. I do not believe though that it is just an automatic switch, but rather it takes conscious effort to fuse your third and fourth density bodies together. It is a rare opportunity, but it doesn't come without dedication I believe. I think someone who is dual activated could potentially 'waste' the advantages of that dual activation if they neglect to do the work.

Quote:71.6 The hallmark of time/space is the inequity between time and space. In your space/time the spatial orientation of material causes a tangible framework for illusion. In time/space the inequity is upon the shoulders of that property known to you as time. This property renders entities and experiences intangible in a relative sense. In your framework each particle or core vibration moves at a velocity which approaches what you call the speed of light from the direction of supraluminal velocities.

Thus the time/space or metaphysical experience is that which is very finely tuned and, although an analog of space/time, lacking in its tangible characteristics. In these metaphysical planes there is a great deal of what you call time which is used to review and re-review the biases and learn/teachings of a prior, as you would call it, space/time incarnation.

(04-17-2015, 02:42 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: Yes, that's basically what I'm saying. This is kind of hard to describe. I basically see dual-activated bodies as well, dual, it's like having two bodies. You are active in both space/time 3D and space/time 4D but just because the body is activated doesn't necessarily mean it is fully so. I believe dual-activation is something which is done to start 4D work while still incarnate in a 3D body. Thus, since you were born with it, I don't see there needing to be any 'switch', since I believe all the densities always exist and there is a difference between our potentiation/activation of bodies and the existence of the densities. Thus, I believe those whom are born dual-activated are born more or less already harvestable.

Therefore, there would be not as much difference for one like that. However, there will be effects of activation and initiation that comes with harvest for that is the opening of the gateway to full fourth density which will naturally begin the process of the fusion of your two bodies. I do not believe though that it is just an automatic switch, but rather it takes conscious effort to fuse your third and fourth density bodies together. It is a rare opportunity, but it doesn't come without dedication I believe. I think someone who is dual activated could potentially 'waste' the advantages of that dual activation if they neglect to do the work.

(04-17-2015, 03:32 PM)APeacefulWarrior Wrote:

(04-17-2015, 02:42 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: Yes, that's basically what I'm saying. This is kind of hard to describe. I basically see dual-activated bodies as well, dual, it's like having two bodies. You are active in both space/time 3D and space/time 4D but just because the body is activated doesn't necessarily mean it is fully so. I believe dual-activation is something which is done to start 4D work while still incarnate in a 3D body. Thus, since you were born with it, I don't see there needing to be any 'switch', since I believe all the densities always exist and there is a difference between our potentiation/activation of bodies and the existence of the densities. Thus, I believe those whom are born dual-activated are born more or less already harvestable.

Therefore, there would be not as much difference for one like that. However, there will be effects of activation and initiation that comes with harvest for that is the opening of the gateway to full fourth density which will naturally begin the process of the fusion of your two bodies. I do not believe though that it is just an automatic switch, but rather it takes conscious effort to fuse your third and fourth density bodies together. It is a rare opportunity, but it doesn't come without dedication I believe. I think someone who is dual activated could potentially 'waste' the advantages of that dual activation if they neglect to do the work.

I don't talk about my own situation much since I don't like turning philosophical conversations about me, but this seems like a good time...  I'm definitely dual-activated, and I've got a very close relationship with my 4D side.  We've been working towards unification for about a year now.  The interesting thing is that I found her and we started towards this before I even found the Ra materials.  I was working almost entirely by instinct, stumbling towards it like a moth towards a flame.

It was very much a conscious choice, on both sides.  There were definite decision points where I had to recognize what I was playing with and say, yes, I DO want this to happen.  And it requires deliberate effort and deliberate energy work.  At least on my part - I'm fuzzy on her metaphysics.  I get the feeling it's easier/more natural for her.  

The way I conceptualize is is that we're mutually-cooperative lenses.  When I "look" towards her and draw in her energies, I'm focusing my will upon her.  And at the same time, she focuses her will on me.  Thus with our wills pointing towards each other, we can "look through" each other to what's on the other sides of the veil.  She gets a closer connection to my body and emotions, and (when I can shove my ego out of the way) the ability to control it, using my ego as a relay/translation point.  I get a direct pipeline to Intelligent Infinity and can much more easily hear\perceive my higher 5D and 6D entities, as well as the ability to start experiencing and comprehending existence as a being that's one subset of a larger whole.

I tend to suspect, in fact, that these "games" she and I are playing in trying to fuse our personalities are meant to simulate or model the ultimate fusion my 6D is slowly working towards.   On the still-rare occasion I really "achieve" and maintain a 4D awareness, it's a very odd feeling of simultaneously being One-within-myself while still being cognizant of my sub-egos and their functions/opinions.

I sometimes also use a visualization of a spinning Yin-Yang, with the speed of the spin correlating to the level of vibration\unity we're achieving.  At its fastest we simply Are, together, sharing a single consciousness that's aware of its own subdivisions and allowing those sub-egos to "do their thing" without directly identifying as one.  

I could try to go into more detail, but the personal experience here gets VERY hard to describe, even metaphorically, especially since the definition of "I" itself becomes very fuzzy.

(04-17-2015, 03:41 PM)APeacefulWarrior Wrote: I wasn't referring to you I_Am_The_One, or anyone else with that line about not liking to talk about myself too much.  It was meant solely for its face value, no snark.