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Ego Survives Death? - AnthroHeart - 09-18-2015
Are all desires out of ego?
Do we still have ego when we pass on?
I heard in an audio book that in the afterlife we get the form we desire, if it isn't out of ego.
If the desired form is not out of ego, it is granted.
I don't know if my strong desire to be anthro is out of ego or not.
It feels more like a fulfillment.
RE: Ego Survives Death? - Aion - 09-18-2015
Well, yeah, it will be fulfilling a desire, so of course it will be fulfilling. I think the concept of the ego is flawed now because there is no consensus on what it actually is. Hard to say what you will think and feel when you are no longer focused in this body. You may have very different interests outside this incarnation.
RE: Ego Survives Death? - anagogy - 09-18-2015
(09-18-2015, 12:44 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: Are all desires out of ego?
Do we still have ego when we pass on?
I heard in an audio book that in the afterlife we get the form we desire, if it isn't out of ego.
If the desired form is not out of ego, it is granted.
I don't know if my strong desire to be anthro is out of ego or not.
It feels more like a fulfillment.
Egos are like layers of an onion. You have egos within egos within egos. Shortly after death your outer ego is shed, but you have your inbetween lives ego that keeps going, and retains some of the aspects of the physical life ego.
An ego is basically a circumscribed area of consciousness, an identity.
All desires emanate from ego because you only desire things that you have identified as apart from you. If you didn't you see yourself of separate, desire would be impossible.
RE: Ego Survives Death? - Raz - 09-18-2015
I think the key is not to get to attached to a specific expression of desire... Acknowledge it more as something flowing and dynamic, that you tune in and get in touch with every moment of every day as different phases will produce a sense of different desires so we need to learn to let go of the previous phase of desire so the next can flow in. I get to know our mutual sense of desire in every moment, with every person I interact, dance and play with... I don´t think the origin of our desire is personal, it´s universal in diversity and novelty... It is truly amazing when we as individual desire channels connect and catalyze each other... Like we do here on the forum for example, with our shared desire to grow... "we are like caterpillars coming together and contemplating pupation".
RE: Ego Survives Death? - APeacefulWarrior - 09-19-2015
I tend to think that its sort of a case of getting what you need, rather than what you want. From what various positive entities have said about the "other side" and the reincarnation process, forms and modes of existence are chosen largely based on the lessons they can teach. For less developed entities, such as native 3D dwellers, this is done for them. As an entity develops in awareness, self-control, and energy levels it can increasingly take charge of its own development and seek out lives that would challenge it in some way.
So it would be more about why an entity is choosing a form/existence rather than the specifics of the form itself. Like, oh, let's say an entity wanted to live a life of riches. If they were choosing this simply because they wanted power or control -desires of the ego- they'd probably be denied. But if they wanted to use the riches for larger good like a life of philanthropy, or even specifically to learn about how power *doesn't* make one happy, they'd be more likely to be approved. (I suppose.)
Plus, of course, there's very little chance of any of us here on Earth truly knowing enough about the "big picture" of our existence to know for certain where our desires come from. That's stuff that gets revealed/remembered after we die. We're deliberately flying blind down here, letting our instincts guide us to see where we end up, and how that compares to the original goals for the incarnation.
Who knows, maybe you were a wolf in your last life who now WANTS to be human, and you're just having trouble dealing with the transition. :-)
RE: Ego Survives Death? - tamaryn - 09-19-2015
Ego is simply the bridge between space/tim and time/space.
So if you incarnate again you are given "chakras" whose expression is your face to the world (ego)
So you always have a self. A time/space perfect self and a space/time incarnated self.
RE: Ego Survives Death? - AnthroHeart - 09-19-2015
I told a lady that we were all God, and forgot to mention that we are multidimensional which explains why we're not "perfect" here. I thought that God wasn't perfect.
RE: Ego Survives Death? - Minyatur - 09-19-2015
(09-19-2015, 10:59 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: I told a lady that we were all God, and forgot to mention that we are multidimensional which explains why we're not "perfect" here. I thought that God wasn't perfect.
I'd say we are not aware each of our inherent ever perfection, as it is something that goes beyond the scope of our experience. But that we still are ever perfect, each in our own manner through our given role.
Even the most negative entity you could conceive would exist for All others, just as the most positive entity you could conceive would have All others exist for itself. It's all an interwined pool of fates that is only because we are existing for one another.
RE: Ego Survives Death? - anagogy - 09-19-2015
(09-19-2015, 10:59 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: I told a lady that we were all God, and forgot to mention that we are multidimensional which explains why we're not "perfect" here. I thought that God wasn't perfect.
The "imperfections" are just imagined. They were imagined so that we might have the experience of growth. You have to pretend you are undeveloped to have the experience of development.
So for the purpose they were intended, the "imperfections" were deliberate, and therefore perfectly serving their intended function.
Our real nature is omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent across time and space. It is perfect peace, love, and utterly still and undistorted.
RE: Ego Survives Death? - Raz - 09-19-2015
(09-19-2015, 03:49 PM)anagogy Wrote: The "imperfections" are just imagined. They were imagined so that we might have the experience of growth. You have to pretend you are undeveloped to have the experience of development.
So for the purpose they were intended, the "imperfections" were deliberate, and therefore perfectly serving their intended function.
Our real nature is omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent across time and space. It is perfect peace, love, and utterly still and undistorted.
Agreed, just had the thought come to me the other day; "we had to devolve to evolve"
RE: Ego Survives Death? - AnthroHeart - 09-19-2015
(09-19-2015, 03:49 PM)anagogy Wrote:(09-19-2015, 10:59 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: I told a lady that we were all God, and forgot to mention that we are multidimensional which explains why we're not "perfect" here. I thought that God wasn't perfect.
The "imperfections" are just imagined. They were imagined so that we might have the experience of growth. You have to pretend you are undeveloped to have the experience of development.
So for the purpose they were intended, the "imperfections" were deliberate, and therefore perfectly serving their intended function.
Our real nature is omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent across time and space. It is perfect peace, love, and utterly still and undistorted.
I wish I had the insight into reality and mind as you do. I appreciate the info you are offering, and am learning a lot.
How do you see so well into truth?
The first time I heard about stillness was in the movie Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon where they talked about holding the sword in stillness.
RE: Ego Survives Death? - Minyatur - 09-19-2015
I don't think it's about being unevolved, without existence there is only nothingness which isn't all that great.
In our evolution, we are intelligence.