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The direct path. - Matt1 - 11-11-2015 Quote:52.7 Questioner: Am I correct, then, in assuming that discipline of the personality, knowledge of self, and control, shall I say, in strengthening of the will would be what any fifth-density entity would see as those things of importance? Oh how easily this is forgotten. ![]() ![]() RE: The direct path. - AnthroHeart - 11-11-2015 I've never figured out how to increase or change my will. RE: The direct path. - Zach - 11-12-2015 I wonder what Ra would say about the path of Kriya Yoga and the disciplines that come with it. What are yalls thoughts? (not to derail) Repression is no good and maybe this is just me but I feel that there is not a lot of emphasis on the needed disciplines for living a fruitful spiritually balanced life in the LOO...but it does make sense because Ra is not one for "recommending" and is very careful about what they say and how it could be interpreted. RE: The direct path. - Matt1 - 11-12-2015 Kriya yoga is basically working with the energy centres and visulization, to move prana up and down the spine. As far as i am aware. It was something i was into a while ago with the kundalini type practices. I think it used to be called Laya Yoga but its normally called Kundalini Kriya yoga or something along those lines. RE: The direct path. - AnthroHeart - 11-12-2015 I've been thinking of doing Diamond Dallas Page Yoga. https://www.youtube.com/user/Dallapage An overweight man who could barely walk used it for miraculous results. But I think it's hard work. RE: The direct path. - Matt1 - 11-12-2015 I think the issue with repression or control is to think when control is a useful catalyst. What is the line of acceptance? Can we simply accept everything? as long as it doesn't directly harm another and if it does we simply visualize it? Until we can move to distortions more in line with the Law of One. I guess this seems to be the most correct use of catalyst i have seen. RE: The direct path. - native - 11-13-2015 Very simple and useful advice. I experienced the power of personality recently. The person was very descriptive, passionate, and persuasive about their worldview and experiences. I found myself easily questioning my own interests and path. RE: The direct path. - Minyatur - 11-13-2015 (11-12-2015, 02:25 PM)Matt1 Wrote: I think the issue with repression or control is to think when control is a useful catalyst. What is the line of acceptance? Can we simply accept everything? as long as it doesn't directly harm another and if it does we simply visualize it? Until we can move to distortions more in line with the Law of One. I guess this seems to be the most correct use of catalyst i have seen. In defining correct does not that inherently define what is viewed differently by other-selves as incorrect? Quote:You are not speaking of similar or somewhat like entities or things. You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One. I prefer to see things as either needed or not by self and other-selves, in this manner I can reconciliate what is not needed as part of my experience of self versus what is needed by other-selves. As such as self I can be a non-rapist as self and as a rapist as other-self, seeing both as equally consonant with the Law of One in that I am every being, emotions, event and approach to catalyst either through self or other-selves. I think it boils down to working from your very own set of distortions and understanding others can also only do the same. RE: The direct path. - Minyatur - 11-13-2015 If you are able to make use of visualization to approach your catalysts then that means you have walked a path which enables you to do so which is not a given for all. Also I do not think visualization is to be considered as having no ripples in time and space, especially polarized visualization which is akin to work in consciousness. RE: The direct path. - Aion - 11-15-2015 (11-11-2015, 05:47 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: I've never figured out how to increase or change my will. You don't increase or change it, you strengthen it like a muscle through exercise and practice. Yes, it takes effort and work. RE: The direct path. - caycegal - 11-28-2015 (11-12-2015, 01:49 PM)Matt1 Wrote: Kriya yoga is basically working with the energy centres and visulization, to move prana up and down the spine. As far as i am aware. It was something i was into a while ago with the kundalini type practices. I think it used to be called Laya Yoga but its normally called Kundalini Kriya yoga or something along those lines. Could you answer a practical question? I have been told that chi or prana moves up the spine or back of the body and comes down the front of the body. Does it rise on the inhale and come down on the exhale, or is it the opposite? Thanks for answering or directing me to a place where I can get very simple explanation. RE: The direct path. - Aion - 11-28-2015 (11-28-2015, 06:42 PM)caycegal Wrote:(11-12-2015, 01:49 PM)Matt1 Wrote: Kriya yoga is basically working with the energy centres and visulization, to move prana up and down the spine. As far as i am aware. It was something i was into a while ago with the kundalini type practices. I think it used to be called Laya Yoga but its normally called Kundalini Kriya yoga or something along those lines. You can do it both ways, but inhale-back and exhale-front is the typical. RE: The direct path. - APeacefulWarrior - 11-29-2015 Not to quibble, but I feel like the use of "direct path" in the title is sort of misleading. There is no direct path because being misled by and/or exploring distortions is a necessary part of personal and spiritual growth. This isn't a matter of drawing a straight line from Point A to Point B. The digressions and wanderings and shortcuts and dead-ends are a necessary part of the learning process. At best one might use words like "optimal" but even then, one who looked to move between the densities as quickly as possible would end up missing out on vital experiences needed for a truly balanced and unified viewpoint. And since time (the opportunity for experiences) is basically infinite, there's really no need to try to optimize anyway. Those who walk the most interesting paths are those that are likely to end up as a well-balanced 6- or 7-D entity, because they're the ones giving themselves the most opportunities for learning experiences. Trying to find a "direct path" would be like using a cheat code to go straight to the end of a video game. Sure, you see the "congraturations" message, but it's empty and unfulfilling without the experiences that build up to it. It's all about the journey, not the destination. RE: The direct path. - Jade - 11-29-2015 You have good points, APW, but Ra does say the path to utilizing the indigo ray is "strait and narrow" as a distortion of the Law of One. I'm no discouraging anyone from exploring their own path, but I think as one snowballs their polarity into adepthood, that diversions are much less available. Also, we know how focused Ra is on "efficiency" in our incarnations. Quote:17.33 Questioner: Why is the negative path so much more difficult a path to attain harvestability upon than the positive? RE: The direct path. - APeacefulWarrior - 12-01-2015 See, I really don't understand what Ra meant by that metaphor because he doesn't seem to be using "straight and narrow" in the same sense it usually has. There's a "gulf" between 51% positive polarization and 100% that's wider than the "gulf of indifference" he speaks of separating the polarized from everyone else. Yes, being positively-polarized means voluntarily placing some restraints on one's behavior, but there's still a lot of room for variance and experimentation there. Besides, that 51% is only talking about initial harvestability of 3D entities. If we're talking about Wanderers and other entities who come from higher densities -which most of us here likely are- there are more options available. Higher-D entities are relatively free to experiment and even change polarities, to broaden their base of experience. After all, Ra said in 81.16 that he had "experienced a great deal of the available refining catalyst of this octave." That doesn't really seem possible if he had stuck solely to a "straight and narrow path" in the Christian sense. Everything he's said about achieving 7D suggests that a very wide knowledge/experience base is needed to achieve Unity with a Creator who is One with and equally loves ALL entities and experiences. Indigo-ray might be a straight path to the gateway of Intelligent Infinity, but that's just one stopover on the journey. ![]() RE: The direct path. - The_Tired_Philosopher - 12-01-2015 "Your faculty of will is that which is powerful within you as co-Creator. You cannot ascribe to this faculty too much importance." -Fidgets in corner of thread lurking- -Reads the above- -Eye twitch- ...explains a lot... If one should not control or allow, how shall one just be? Conscientiously? Mindfully? In the World of Polarity, does treating it as one net the results desired, or is it better to ascribe to a focus of 'Work on self' in regards to Work in Consciousness in the context of Tuning ones self to better channel their own true inner being versus continuing as is from a 'lower' frequency (Egoic Being vs True Being)? As in, being loving, thoughtful, sincere, honest about self to self? Or... hmm... I wish it could be both... RE: The direct path. - Plenum - 12-01-2015 @Jade @APW I have to admit, I'm not quite sure what the metaphor being offered here is either. The only thing I can think of in this context of the question, and then how the answer proceeded, is that 'strait and narrow' is about collecting and focusing one's biases into a coherent, dedicated structure. And that somehow the percentages of 51% STO and 95% STS correspond to an equal amount of focussing of deliberate choice. That is, even though the numbers may look very skewed toward 'effort' on the path of self-service, the actual deliberateness of choosing a path and making it the over-riding Interpretation that one wishes to refine is the same amount of work in consciousness and deepening of biases to the point where the 4d environment is actually suitable (and useful) to continue that choice of experience. In a way, the 'sinkhole of indifference' is slightly pejorative, in that one may want to stay in a world/environment where things are less sharply polarized, and people are just floundering/unfocussed in their experiences (ie 3d repeaters). People who don't really care about learning about themselves, and just want to enjoy surface level experiences. That's their right/prerogative too, and their reality will be matched to their level of 'seeking'. Quote:89.30 Questioner: Would Ra’s attitude toward the same unharvestable entities be different at this nexus than at the time of harvest of third density? RE: The direct path. - APeacefulWarrior - 12-01-2015 (12-01-2015, 08:35 AM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote: And that somehow the percentages of 51% STO and 95% STS correspond to an equal amount of focussing of deliberate choice. That is, even though the numbers may look very skewed toward 'effort' on the path of self-service, the actual deliberateness of choosing a path and making it the over-riding Interpretation that one wishes to refine is the same amount of work in consciousness and deepening of biases to the point where the 4d environment is actually suitable (and useful) to continue that choice of experience. This I totally agree with. I tend to think the initial polarization -at 51% or 5%- is much like the advent of puberty in our bodies' development. After all, it's considered rather old-fashioned to say that a boy has become a man because his balls dropped. Instead, we know that adolescence is a terribly complicated thing involving loads of internal changes, and the external physical development is just the most obvious indicator that the process is going on. And in the same way, I believe polarization is the most obvious "signpost" of a series of internal spiritual\mental changes that largely revolve around the awakening of one's actual will-power and, as you say, the deliberate decision to focus that will towards a certain chosen end. This also suggests that once polarization is achieved, it's difficult to lose entirely. It would track with what Ra says at various points about entities moving between polarities, and it actually becoming easier to switch polarity the more powerful\focused\dense the entity becomes. The underlying will to service (so to speak) doesn't go away; the manner and direction of service simply changes. Being able to switch polarities easily would probably be another signpost that a higher-D entity's direct control over their own willpower and energies is growing. As for the gulf of indifference, I see what you mean but I don't think Ra meant it in a pejorative manner. I think it's just another way of saying "those who know not, care not," which he's also said about entities in similar circumstances. RE: The direct path. - native - 12-01-2015 I like what has been said regarding straight and narrow. Also, imagine a doorway the shape of your body only. Sounds fairly narrow to me ![]() "Another self cannot teach/learn enlightenment.." "The gate to intelligent infinity can only be opened when an understanding of the instreamings of intelligent energy are opened unto the healer." RE: The direct path. - Jade - 12-01-2015 I just want to point out the semantic difference between "straight and narrow" and "strait and narrow". It's not straight like a long line without diversions, it's strait like a river channel, full of winding turns and rapids, but one path where you ride the current to one destination. Of course, each person's "strait" is of their choosing, and one can always forge new paths or get off. But, Ra was speaking of work in consciousness and the adept (indigo ray), which I think means one must stay the course to get the most benefit. It's like The Two Paths card. After you make the choice (releasing one of the women's hands), the triangles represent the two paths, veering, and the paths get further apart the further you go along them. Sure, you can jump back and forth between the paths, but this is not the work of the indigo ray adept, this is the "sinkhole of indifference". I think this is what Ra means by the quote. Neither the positive path nor the negative path is a decision one should take lightly. Both require dedication. ![]() RE: The direct path. - native - 12-01-2015 A good reminder. The concept of a channel as it's used in the material is interesting as well. |