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Creating our Heaven Right Now - AnthroHeart - 10-11-2016
Edgar Cayce told a man that he was creating his heaven right now, and that all the yoga he did by himself would ensure that he was alone in heaven.
So are we building our afterlife in this life? Can we change our decisions in a moment and not manifest certain afterlifes?
RE: Creating our Heaven Right Now - isis - 10-12-2016
he wanted to be alone in heaven? for the rest of eternity?
i'm hoping for alone time whenever i want it & to be able to choose my company.
i doubt anything like that is ever written in stone, as desires are subject to change.
i'm betting/hoping we can change things up whenever - even from the afterlife.
RE: Creating our Heaven Right Now - octavia - 10-12-2016
(10-12-2016, 01:35 AM)isis Wrote: he wanted to be alone in heaven? for the rest of eternity?
i'm hoping for alone time whenever i want it & to be able to choose my company.
i doubt anything like that is ever written in stone, as desires are subject to change.
i'm betting/hoping we can change things up whenever - even from the afterlife.
To build upon this idea, much of what I have read of Michael Newton's research on what we will call the "Architecture of Heaven" does seem to essentially corroborate this sentiment, in that there are many different mechanisms for healing, learning, study, and so on, in heaven.
However, I should also say that I have not re-read Micheal Newton's work since my introduction to The Ra Material and Confederation Philosophy, such that there may be more elements of the text that do not resonate with me as true than I recall.
[Off the top of my head, the inconsistencies I can think of between these two "sources" are few. The only proper inconsistency I can think of was one of Newton's own conclusions and not an inconsistency between his collected data and Confederation Material. This inconsistency being that Newton made the (quite reasonable from his data) conclusion that, because the spirit takes such a long time to adjust to the mind/body complex during infancy and early childhood, that Walk-Ins could not exist, whereas Confederation sources, incidentally, do assert the existence of Walk-Ins.]
RE: Creating our Heaven Right Now - Nau7ik - 10-12-2016
Absolutely we create our afterlife by the decisions and choices we make now. Heaven and Hell are states of mind. So when one dies after living a life that was meaningful and loving, remaking the choice to be of service to all, to love and light, then he shall find himself greeted by angels and brought into the glory of heaven. He would need less heading because he begun the healing of incarnation within incarnation.
Consequently, we can say the same with those who live only for themselves, who hurt others, close their hearts, and live in darkness and confusion, having rejected the goodness of Creation. They will find themselves within a very real metaphysical environment that reflects the hell of their mind. This of course is not eternal, it's only temporary.
Those who reject the unseen, soul evolution, the reality of higher dimensions, will be confused upon death. So yes, our choices within the incarnation impact our future experiences.
We are here on Earth in Third Density to make a choice. We can also remake a choice in a moment as well, if it's of the heart, meaning it's a clear and conscious choice to love or to withhold love. Ra talked about the switching of polarity but I don't remember it exactly so if anyone wants to look it up, Ra is more clear than I am (obviously lol).
If you're doing your best to live with an open heart, you need not fear anything. Those who think that life is meaningless and that they can hurt anyone and do whatever they want with no consequences will be in for a big surprise when he dies crosses the gateway of death into the larger life.
RE: Creating our Heaven Right Now - Plenum - 10-12-2016
(10-11-2016, 11:51 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: So are we building our afterlife in this life?
all thoughts and choices are consequential.
Just like you drop a ball from a table, and it has certain 'results'; there are metaphysical principles in place which mean that certain things also are the consequence.
Understanding those metaphysical principles helps you better guide an 'outcome'; much like knowing physics and engineering allow you to build some impressive things that work.
(10-11-2016, 11:51 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: Can we change our decisions in a moment and not manifest certain afterlifes?
It's not as simple as saying "Cancel that Thought'
I remember going to a Healing Class a couple of years ago and this was one of the things this guy used to say. Made me laugh
The Truth is, we can resolve and balance any Thought Trajectory that we have. But much like an Intel Chip is the consequence of a civilisation of high understanding; we too, have built things in consciousness.
To resolve Things in consciousness takes understanding and investigation.
RE: Creating our Heaven Right Now - anagogy - 10-13-2016
(10-11-2016, 11:51 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: So are we building our afterlife in this life? Can we change our decisions in a moment and not manifest certain afterlifes?
My understanding is that in the same way that we are creating our realities now, we continue creating our realities after we leave this physical plane. The only difference is that the other planes are more fluid and respond much more quickly to your vibratory distortions of thought. So you aren't stuck in any particular world after you die, in my opinion, it just simply reflects your dominant thoughts and beliefs, which you can change at anytime (though, as you well know, that can be a challenge too at times). Many people of different faiths, who believe similarly, end up in what they, as a demographic, have collectively conceptualized as their version of heaven. Eventually they realize it is essentially a collective dream, but it can take them awhile, by our linear reckoning of time. Some other people, who feel guilty end up in a similar dream of hell for a variable amount of time. The average person, who has no strong feelings either way, does not get stuck in this "astral mud", and go back to their higher selves (what Robert Monroe termed the "I There") in an environment that they find most agreeable and in harmonic resonance with their soul pattern.
RE: Creating our Heaven Right Now - AnthroHeart - 10-13-2016
I heard our ego dies when we die. So this means that what we think about after we die will have nothing to do with this life. So we won't even like the same things.
RE: Creating our Heaven Right Now - anagogy - 10-13-2016
(10-13-2016, 08:17 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: I heard our ego dies when we die. So this means that what we think about after we die will have nothing to do with this life. So we won't even like the same things.
I would say "die" is perhaps too strong a word. It is more like taking off your winter clothes because you are no longer out in the cold and you don't need them to keep you warm anymore. You could keep wearing them if you want to, and no one is gonna tell you that you can't, but just as you would get uncomfortably hot in a warm house with snow clothes on, you are probably going to be uncomfortable remaining clothed in your outer ego while inhabiting certain planes beyond the physical.
It sounds scary to us, but you'll see it more of a relief when the time comes. The core of your desires/emotions/thoughts will not change, but they may not be channeled in precisely the fashion they you are accustomed to in your present earthly incarnation.
RE: Creating our Heaven Right Now - Mahakali - 10-13-2016
I'm so drunk right now
RE: Creating our Heaven Right Now - isis - 10-14-2016
maybe we're already in heaven right now & have always been here & will always be here & always get nothing but exactly what we (subconsciously) want all the time. it's a possibility.
http://i.quoteaddicts.com/media/q5/728642.png
RE: Creating our Heaven Right Now - Nau7ik - 10-14-2016
(10-13-2016, 09:40 PM)anagogy Wrote:(10-13-2016, 08:17 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: I heard our ego dies when we die. So this means that what we think about after we die will have nothing to do with this life. So we won't even like the same things.
I would say "die" is perhaps too strong a word. It is more like taking off your winter clothes because you are no longer out in the cold and you don't need them to keep you warm anymore. You could keep wearing them if you want to, and no one is gonna tell you that you can't, but just as you would get uncomfortably hot in a warm house with snow clothes on, you are probably going to be uncomfortable remaining clothed in your outer ego while inhabiting certain planes beyond the physical.
It sounds scary to us, but you'll see it more of a relief when the time comes. The core of your desires/emotions/thoughts will not change, but they may not be channeled in precisely the fashion they you are accustomed to in your present earthly incarnation.
We've also all died countless times lol. We just don't remember right now
RE: Creating our Heaven Right Now - Minyatur - 10-14-2016
(10-14-2016, 02:19 AM)isis Wrote: maybe we're already in heaven right now & have always been here & will always be here & always get nothing but exactly what we (subconsciously) want all the time. it's a possibility.
http://i.quoteaddicts.com/media/q5/728642.png
We are in the third heaven already, that is what 3D is and the veil of forgetting that is creating all of this confusion is but a tool of our will to shape experiences of ourselves.