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Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - Hohongwitutiwa - 10-19-2016
Ngungu'Taota (greetings, we are relatives), Tutskwa I'qatsi (Land and Life are One),
For those who do not know me, my Hopi name is Hohongwitutiwa. I am a EuroAmerican man who was adopted by a Hopi of the higher religious order, a One Horned Priest, or Mongwi, keeper of the ancient knowledge preserved by the Hopi people. When adopted, according to Hopi tradition, I was made a member of the tribe and given my Hopi name. I am not an official Hopi representative, and not all Hopi agree with sharing this knowledge, but we were told to share it at this time by Masau long ago, and nothing being given can do anything but good.
What I am sharing is sent with an open hand, to accept, or not, as you choose.
As my father's kiikelt, or “young hawk” learner, I spent two years with my father, helping him share the Hopi knowledge we were instructed to share with the world at this time. Since his death in 1999 at the age of 102, I have continued sharing this knowledge wherever I can as a giveaway. In this regard, you will find my posts and comments scattered throughout the Internet over the past decades, as well as a book entitled “Earth Mother Our Womb of Life,” which can be downloaded as a free ebook. As a giveaway, I have given permission to copy and share the book as long as nothing is changed. I have been sharing this information on David Wilcock's Divine Cosmos website in the General Discussion forums, as well as many other places over the years. I come to you with humility and respect, and will do my best to answer any questions you have to the best of my ability.
The purpose of my coming here, is to relate the L/L Research Law of One, to the Hopi knowledge of our Law of Life. I am aware of the channelled writings of L/L Research, and even corresponded with Carla Rueckert in the late 80's early 90's.
The heart of what I am sharing with you, is an appreciation of the Earth to our futures; how we have been evolving according to a design in Nature-- in Creation Itself-- upon the Earth, and will soon culminate our evolution if we live loving and unselfish lives, remaining immovable from the Earth through all the trials to come.
The Ra material has mentioned that each density has its own quality, a spectrum of densities akin to the spectrum of colors we know. The Hopi relate these density qualities to our Solar system, within a process we know as The Sacred Path of Migration. This process describes how the Earth has migrated from the outermost orbit of our system, to our present orbit we know as the Fourth World. The Hopi Sunflower sandpainting-- showing 8 concentric circles with petals around the outer circle-- represents our Sun System: innermost circle is Pluto with the petalled outer circle being the sun (pictured in the Earth Mother book).
At each purification time, which is occurring again now, the core of each world is born-ejected through the sipapuni or birth canal of each planet. For the Earth, the core will emerge in Antarctica in the area of the Weddell Sea. The ejected cores will become moons, the true origin of moons. The blistering molten cores, when encountering the coldness of space, collapse into most of the craters we see on the moons, as well as forming the molten seas, or mares, that are seen.
At the time of each migration, due to the excitation present during these periods, life is evolved to new species adapted to live in the environs of the new orbit and density, as shown in the fossil record. Evolution begins in the outermost orbit from raw material, to a completed, heavenly form and consciousness in the orbit of the Morning Star. Earth has gone through 6 past purification cycles/orbits to reach where we are now as Homo sapiens (6 Days of Creation in Book of Genesis), each orbit having its own density and quality-- early outer impressions; early feelings; emotions; early thought; focus on intellect; culminating with the at-onement of spirit, mind and body in the Morning Star orbit, the Kingdom Christ spoke about that is “not of this world.”
The Earth is now having her birthpains, the true case of the increasing number and severity of storms, earthquakes, and other geo-disturbances, the so-called global warming, observed by our space probes on the other planets of our system.
The Earth is a living Being who does not want to lose the children She has nurtured for so long and so far. She wants Her children to awaken to Her. The Earth is our nearest expression of the Godhead that ensouls all of Creation. Rather than looking to other worlds for our salvation, we are being called to look down to the Earth as our true hope. According to Hopi knowledge, only those who remain immovable from the Earth through all the trials and temptations to come, will inherit their crowning life.
Naawakna nihqe kyaptsita – with love and respect,
Upaava – your brother Hohongwitutiwa - Daniel
RE: Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - smc - 10-19-2016
With respect:
Quote:I am not an official Hopi representative, and not all Hopi agree with sharing this knowledge
S.M.C has 25 years of cultural/political interaction with Indigenous of Australia; 7 years with Indigenous of USA/Canada;
and has been very clearly and firmly taught:
- to never share what is not unanimously agreed to be shared.
With sacred knowledge, one objection is sufficient - for silence.
Permission is necessary. Protocol keeps culture safe, uncontaminated.
- too much has been taken/stolen from Indigenous already.
Not having personal connection with Hopi but with knowledge of cultural issues/politics/white appropriation of Hopi learned from Indigenous activist friends connected to Hopi; S.M.C understands the rifts in Hopi world enough to see that these rifts 'allow' some Hopi to approve your adopted identity and sharing of Hopi sacred information - but this doesn't allay concern at your posting here (and elsewhere).
Put it to you that you come here for self promotion. (Have since read several parts of your book - now question this assumption and retract. Sincere Apologies.)
Have been taught to take a stand on this.
Indigenous Lore/Law requires respect and PERMISSION.
Unfortunately This response is 'gatekeeper' but is not intended to be hostile to (or a whole picture of) you.
If this seems stern or harsh - please know it is very kindly phrased compared to the sometimes justifiable anger and warnings/advice that originally taught S.M.C to respect and not appropriate (no matter how innocently) what is not allowed to be taken.
Perhaps your journey and interactions are different, though this is very rare, if this is the case.
RE: Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - anagogy - 10-19-2016
(10-19-2016, 04:43 AM)Hohongwitutiwa Wrote: What I am sharing is sent with an open hand, to accept, or not, as you choose.
Thanks for sharing, really interesting stuff.
RE: Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - Diana - 10-19-2016
(10-19-2016, 09:22 AM)SMC Wrote: With respect:
Quote:I am not an official Hopi representative, and not all Hopi agree with sharing this knowledge
S.M.C has 25 years of cultural/political interaction with Indigenous of Australia; 7 years with Indigenous of USA/Canada;
and has been very clearly and firmly taught:
- to never share what is not unanimously agreed to be shared.
With sacred knowledge, one objection is sufficient - for silence.
Permission is necessary. Protocol keeps culture safe, uncontaminated.
- too much has been taken/stolen from Indigenous already.
Not having personal connection with Hopi but with much knowledge of cultural issues/politics/white appropriation of Hopi from Indigenous activist friends connected to Hopi; S.M.C understands the rifts in Hopi world enough to see that these rifts 'allow' some Hopi to approve your adopted identity and your feeling Hopi sacred information should be 'shared' - but this doesn't allay concern at your posting here (and elsewhere).
Put it to you that you come here for self promotion.
Have been taught to take a stand on this.
Indigenous Lore/Law requires respect and PERMISSION.
Unfortunately this response is 'gatekeeper' but is not intended to be hostile to (or a whole picture of) you.
I, for one, would like to hear your response to these comments, Hohongwitutiwa.
While I personally would prefer transparency, arguments can be made for keeping certain knowledge secret. I don't fall on either side of the fence, however. I am interested in all theories and certainly appreciate all indigenous teachings.
I definitely have questions for you, but could you first let us know your thoughts on SMC's comments?
Edit: I see SMC has altered his/her comments. So anyone seeing this post please refer to the edited version of SMC's post above.
RE: Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - anagogy - 10-19-2016
Personally, I think it would be an unreasonable expectation to so control the spread of knowledge of an entire group of people to the point where there would be a totally unified group consensus against the spread of knowledge and NOBODY would ever choose to share the information. Quite simply, it is an unfair and unreasonable expectation of a group of people from my perspective. There will always be people who choose to share, over withholding and keeping things secret.
I don't see sharing knowledge as a contamination of a culture (quite the opposite really). Forcing one's beliefs on another would constitute a contamination in my opinion, but simple sharing in the spirit of growth and communication isn't contamination, it is spiritual evolution. I would say total withholding would constitute a far worse variety of contamination (STS contamination -- truth withholding).
And as for permission, who is the sole arbiter or decider of what truth is unsharable? That whole notion reeks of STS ownership. Like somebody "owns" truth or something.
"3 things cannot be hidden long: the sun, the moon, and the truth."
RE: Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - Infinite Unity - 10-19-2016
I believe s m c is correct in her statements surrounding most indeginous people's belief in not sharing. However as the OP said the time has come to share these teachings with the world. I see it almost as a pregnant women, to be protected and nutured until she is ready for birth. Also the approach of not sharing information at the preservation of oneself is selfish to me. Would you hold back food from a child just,to protect the ingredients within the dish? This is about the level of thought that path takes in my opinion. I appreciate how you view things and find them very similar of how I see things OP.
RE: Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - smc - 10-19-2016
To call Indigenous peoples wishing to keep their sacred ceremony/knowledge/cultural practice amongst those authorised in their own communities -
"unfair and unreasonable expectation of a group of people", "selfish" and "STS ownership"
is a degree of ignorance to the enormous suffering caused by the invasion of their lands by colonisers, the forced removal of their children, the banning of their languages and ceremonies under threat of punishment/death... and SO MUCH MORE
(the list of abuses is massive...)
- to say their activism to regain/keep alive culture and knowledge is 'selfish', and instead allow it to be exposed to the offspring of invader societies, is astonishing ignorance, arrogance and insensitivity.
Please (again) examine your PRIVILEGE which has you thinking you have any right to others special sacred personal belongings and DO SOME RESEARCH.
for example:
from: http://www.sfu.ca/ipinch/outputs/blog/canadian-intellectual-property-regime/
Quote:"Cultural heritage transcends the individual. The word “heritage” itself suggests that a practice must be maintained and passed on by more than one generation.[4] Among Canada's Aboriginal peoples, cultural heritage is usually communally owned. Sometimes, custody is assigned to an association or individuals who have been specially taught or initiated to be its custodians.[5] The custodian and members of the community have a responsibility to preserve, use, develop and transmit such traditional cultural expression in accordance with the customary laws and protocols of that community.[6] Preservation is achieved through patterns of behaviour and knowledge embodied in skills, ceremonies, rituals.[7] Aboriginal peoples transfer their cultural heritage primarily through intangible means, such as songs, symbols, legends and ways of life, and in a manner that reflects their history, culture, ethics and creativity.[8]
b. A (short!) history of the suppression of Canadian Aboriginal culture
The outrage expressed by Aboriginal people in the face of cultural appropriation cannot be understood outside of the historical context of colonialism in which the loss of culture began.
Throughout the 19th and 20th centuries, Canada's Aboriginal policy was one of aggressive assimilation, based on the false assumption that Aboriginal peoples are doomed to extinction, lest they be "saved" from their primitive culture and savage ways.[9] The ultimate goal of this policy was the assimilation of Aboriginal people into the dominant white culture and the disappearance of their traditional culture.[10]
Residential schools cut Aboriginal children off from their culture, interrupting and preventing the transfer of traditional values and practices to new generations. The removal of children from their families continued in the 1960s, when child welfare agencies were given broad powers to apprehend Aboriginal children. Almost all the children of that generation were sent to white foster homes.[11]
Most ceremonial expressions of Aboriginal culture were banned in the late 19th century by the Indian Act. For decades, the potlatch, sweat lodges and sun dances were banned. The wearing of traditional regalia was made subject to the permission of government officials, which was often arbitrarily withheld. The penalty for failure to comply with these restrictions was jail time and the confiscation of ceremonial objects.[12]
Forced displacement of Aboriginal peoples also played a role in the suppression of Aboriginal cultural heritage. Though some relocation took place in the 19th and early 20th centuries, Aboriginal peoples were displaced en masse as of the 1940s to make way for hydroelectric dams and other industrial projects.[13] Relocations contributed to the loss of cultural practices by severing the ties between Aboriginal peoples and the lands to which their traditional knowledge related.[14]
c. Continued endangerment of Aboriginal culture through cultural appropriation
Today, cultural appropriation and negative stereotypes pose a significant threat to the cultural survival of Aboriginal peoples.[15] It is part of a pattern of injustice that allows the perpetuation of inequalities.
Cultural appropriation is defined as the unauthorized 'borrowing' of expressions, artistic styles, symbolism, myths or know-how from a dominated culture by a member of the dominant culture.[16] Appropriation also occurs when a person of the dominant culture purports to be an expert on the experience of the dominated culture[17] or trivializes the experiences of a member of the dominated culture.[18]
It is a very real phenomenon: according to a 1997 study, 81% of Aboriginal artisans had experienced some form of misappropriation or use of traditional Aboriginal designs.[19] Aboriginal words and imagery are used by people and companies having no link to the communities from which they borrow (to name but a few: Eskimo Pie, Ookpik coats, Cherokee Jeeps). Native spiritual practices such as sweat lodges are commodified and commercialized by new age gurus.[20] Despite recent controversy, concertgoers still regularly wear war bonnets to music festivals.
In the public forum, Aboriginal identity has been defined almost exclusively by the dominant culture,[21] often in ways that misrepresent or disparage Aboriginal peoples. Aboriginal people have experienced difficulty in making their voices heard in order to correct the situation.[22] Publishing and production houses show little interest in Aboriginal content that is not "authentic" (a euphemism for "stereotyped").[23] In this manner, negative stereotypes operate as a means of social control. Stereotypes reinforce negative views of the dominated cultural group and serve as grounds to exclude its members from cultural and political discourse. Consequently, the dominant cultural group continues to wield a disproportionate amount of political power, much as it did in colonial times.[24]
The assimilatory effects of colonial policies and cultural appropriation are also similar.[25] Cultural appropriation dispossesses people of their identity. Due to the denigration of their values and the omnipresence of the dominant culture in education and media (which, in Canada, reflect a mostly urban, non-Aboriginal lifestyle[26]), members of a dominated culture will eschew their own culture in favour of the dominant culture.
Whether or not one accepts that cultural appropriation is a form of neocolonialism, its negative impacts on the health, wellbeing and capacity for economic self-sustenance of Aboriginal peoples cannot be ignored.
Cultural appropriation is linked to mental health issues. The inappropriate use of sacred traditional knowledge has destroyed its sacredness and twisted its meaning, weakening it in the eyes of all.[27] Aboriginal youth suffer from low self-esteem due to a negative view of their own culture, supported by a belief in negative stereotypes.[28] Culture stress is a major factor driving Aboriginal youth to self-destructive behaviour and suicide.[29]
Cultural appropriation also threatens Aboriginal peoples' economic self-sustenance. Traditional knowledge represents an interesting source for the development of new medicines and technologies. However, in the past, some Aboriginal groups have lost control of their traditional knowledge by disclosing it to Western researchers who then used such information for culturally inappropriate purposes. In some instances, non-Aboriginal companies have commercialized products based on traditional knowledge or expressions of culture, without sharing the profits with the community from which such knowledge originated.[30] For example, the Hudson’s Bay Company came under fire during the 2010 Vancouver Olympic Games for its decision to market non-authentic Cowichan-style sweaters to commemorate the event. The Bay had initially entered into negotiations with the Cowichan First Nation to produce authentic Cowichan sweaters, which are hand-knit in a distinctive style from natural, undyed wool. The deal fell through, as the Nation did not have the capacity to produce the quantities of product required in the allotted time. The Bay’s subsequently outsourced manufacturing to a third party who had access to mechanized knitting equipment and cheaper materials. The sweaters produced by the manufacturer bore a striking resemblance to authentic Cowichan sweaters and were referred to as “knock-offs” in the media. Members of the Nation were upset by the loss of a potential source of income to a non Aboriginal company whose products might be confused with their own. The Bay eventually agreed to a last-minute licensing deal, allowing the Nation to sell their own sweaters at the Four Host First Nations Pavilion (a temporary pavilion located in downtown Vancouver) and at the Bay’s flagship store in Vancouver. No profit sharing arrangement has been reported.[31]
The fear of misappropriation of Aboriginal traditional knowledge, cultural expressions and genetic and biological resources and has created a chilling effect: the Chiefs of Ontario and the Nishnawbe Aski Nation have declared a moratorium on the commercialization of plants and animals.[32] Aboriginal communities' capacity to profit from their own knowledge is therefore limited as they are rarely equipped to engage in complex and expensive R&D without recourse to external resources or expertise.[33] Out-licensing would be an accessible way for these communities to develop and profit from their knowledge, but distrust has created an obstacle to the sharing of knowledge with outsiders."
This is just one link. There are so many examples/stories/historical facts that you could read to realise the extent of how inappropriate and self centred the idea that Indigenous owe anything to dominant western cultures is.
Another compelling aspect (from personal experience) is that certain knowledge REQUIRES secrecy to remain effective in it's purpose.
There are large amounts of ceremony/information that non initiated Indigenous people can not know without permission;
and yet you demand you have a right to the knowledge??
Oh dear.
RE: Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - anagogy - 10-19-2016
(10-19-2016, 02:41 PM)SMC/Splash/^j^/other monikers Wrote: is a degree of ignorance to the enormous suffering caused by the invasion of their lands by colonisers, the forced removal of their children, the banning of their languages and ceremonies under threat of punishment/death... and SO MUCH MORE
(the list of abuses is massive...)
That isn't even remotely similar to "sharing knowledge". You are talking about somebody forcing their ideas on another culture. Doesn't even relate. That would be actual contamination, versus someone just sharing their truths.
(10-19-2016, 02:41 PM)SMC/Splash/^j^/other monikers Wrote: Please (again) examine your PRIVILEGE which has you thinking you have any right to others special sacred personal belongings and DO SOME RESEARCH.
Ah, privilege.......that's your answer for everything isn't it?
(10-19-2016, 02:41 PM)SMC/Splash/^j^/other monikers Wrote: and yet you demand you have a right to the knowledge??
Where did I demand I had a "right" to the knowledge? All I said was that nobody owns truth, and even if somebody thought they did, it will eventually come out anyway, because there is never going to be a circumstance where people unanimously agree to keep something totally secret. Somebody will always "spill the beans". It's human nature. So it ultimately does no good to tell people not to share just because somebody else doesn't like it.
RE: Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - smc - 10-19-2016
(10-19-2016, 02:52 PM)anagogy Wrote:(10-19-2016, 02:41 PM)SMC/Splash/^j^/other monikers Wrote: is a degree of ignorance to the enormous suffering caused by the invasion of their lands by colonisers, the forced removal of their children, the banning of their languages and ceremonies under threat of punishment/death... and SO MUCH MORE
(the list of abuses is massive...)
That isn't even remotely similar to "sharing knowledge". You are talking about somebody forcing their ideas on another culture. Doesn't even relate. That would be actual contamination, versus someone just sharing their truths.
(10-19-2016, 02:41 PM)SMC/Splash/^j^/other monikers Wrote: Please (again) examine your PRIVILEGE which has you thinking you have any right to others special sacred personal belongings and DO SOME RESEARCH.
Ah, privilege.......that's your answer for everything isn't it?
(10-19-2016, 02:41 PM)SMC/Splash/^j^/other monikers Wrote: and yet you demand you have a right to the knowledge??
Where did I demand I had a "right" to the knowledge? All I said was that nobody owns truth, and even if somebody thought they did, it will eventually come out anyway, because there is never going to be a circumstance where people unanimously agree to keep something totally secret. Somebody will always "spill the beans". It's human nature. So it ultimately does no good to tell people not to share just because somebody else doesn't like it.
1) You're not understanding the actual issue here... did you read the detailed information in the excerpt?
2) Is something wrong with your keyboard? Are keys stuck? It's just 'S.M.C'...
3) Re privilege - not for everything... but in 3D Earth - a great deal...
4) Are you angry? (Imagine how angry Indigenous people are.)
5) Is B4 a community for teach/learning? Or do you view yourself as already fully wise?
6) S.M.C was hurt and felt misunderstood when own privilege was first pointed out. It was a hard learning. It was a good learning.
7) Your words came over as demanding. Re-read them.
8) You could be far harder/fiercer taught than this is doing.
Consider softening. That would be radical.
RE: Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - anagogy - 10-19-2016
(10-19-2016, 03:42 PM)SMC Wrote: 1) You're not understanding the actual issue here... did you read the detailed information in the excerpt?
I did, and I don't think you understand the issue here, either.
(10-19-2016, 03:42 PM)SMC Wrote: 2) Is something wrong with your keyboard? Are keys stuck? It's just 'S.M.C'...
Are you saying that those accounts were not yours?
Quote:6) S.M.C was hurt and felt misunderstood when own privilege was first pointed out. It was a hard learning. It was a good learning.
Why do you refer to yourself in third person?
RE: Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - Hohongwitutiwa - 10-19-2016
Ngungu'taota SMC, and those reading here, Tutskwa I'qatsi,
SMC, I understand and respect your passion to respect the rights of indigenous people to keep their cultural knowledge within their circles, but, respectfully, you have ignored two important points I shared in my post: the Hopi have clear instructions from the holy personage who originally provided them the Hopi Way (Masau) to share certain knowledge with the world during this time; and I am a Hopi according to Hopi tradition.
Hopi who do not follow this instruction are betraying their highest spiritual duty. To not follow this instruction is analogous to receiving an instruction from Jesus and deciding to ignore it. Also, I am only sharing certain knowledge, not everything I know, only the information the Earth's children are meant to receive at this important time in the world; this knowledge belongs to everyone and is needed to help people make wise choices when unexpected events arise that will be presented deceptively.
The name “Hopi” is often translated as “peaceful” and “honest” but Sun Clan Kikmongwi (Village leader) Dan Katchongva gave the name a deeper meaning:
“...Hopi means not only to be peaceful, but to obey and have faith in the instructions of the Great Spirit, God knows who is in the right and not to distort any of his teachings for influence or power, or in any way corrupt the Hopi Way of life. Otherwise the name will be taken away...”
My Hopi father and myself have striven to follow the above definition, although other Hopi have not, leading to a prophesied division within the Hopi, including the adoption of a governing council that was NOT approved by the Hopi people, which is under the influence of the U.S. Government, and that has done things contrary to the Hopi Way. As Dan Katchongva asserted:
“...We Hopi knew all this would come about (forces seeking to change the Hopi Way)…If we were to accept those offers from his government, that would be the doom of the Hopi Nation…We know that when the time comes, the Hopi will be reduced to maybe one person, two persons, three persons (following the Hopi Way)...”
I can assure you that not only have I not made any money from writing the book, which has been given away as free ebooks, but it has cost me money to have it privately published, not to mention the stress from dealing with people who have made lies and thrown insults at me.
I am not explaining this to defend myself, nor to enter into a long debate, but to provide an honest explanation to help assuage any anger so this information can be provided in a friendly atmosphere, as it should be given. My hope is that I have done so.
The free will of everyone should always be respected, which is why I made clear that this knowledge is given with an open hand to take or leave as one chooses.
I reiterate that the knowledge I am sharing will greatly help you see through the deceptions the Hopi know are coming, so you can walk a straight road to your highest life.
Someone has written me a private message about something I might help them with (I will answer shortly). Please feel free to send me any questions with which I may be able to assist you.
Umumi pam taaviningwu – may the sun always shine upon you,
Your brother Hohongwitutiwa
RE: Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - Hohongwitutiwa - 10-19-2016
Ngungu'taota (greetings, we are relations), Tutskwa I'qatsi (Land and Life are One),
Someone has privately asked me where to download a copy of the free ebook, “Earth Mother Our Womb of Life.” There is a woman named Vanessa who has been researching the science behind the Hopi knowledge in her blog. Anyone can download the ebook by clicking on the picture of the book at the below link:
https://earthmotherblog.wordpress.com/me/
With love and respect,
Upaava Hohongwitutiwa
RE: Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - Diana - 10-19-2016
(10-19-2016, 04:46 PM)Hohongwitutiwa Wrote: I am not explaining this to defend myself, nor to enter into a long debate, but to provide an honest explanation to help assuage any anger so this information can be provided in a friendly atmosphere, as it should be given. My hope is that I have done so.
Thank you for your unoffended response.
It's not unusual here at B4 that individuals get triggered. It's seems to be part of growth/catalyst.So, to members here: might we just accept this man and what he has to offer without arguing over it?
I have a question, Hohongwitutiwa. Have the Hopi had any messages from the animal kingdom in particular? I ask because a few years back I was in a group meditation to help people cross over, but I saw animals. Among them was a young, male elephant, who told me that the sisters and brothers of the animal kingdom were dying. That humans had taken over their habitats, and they were starving. I'm not trying to denigrate human behavior, I'm just interested in what the animals have to say.
And to add a caveat to the members here at B4, this is not a ploy to squeeze being vegetarian into the conversation.
RE: Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - sunnysideup - 10-19-2016
Welcome, Hohongwitutiwa. Thank you for sharing your fascinating story and a link to your book. I will definitely try to read it once I have some spare time.
RE: Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - Hohongwitutiwa - 10-20-2016
Ngungu'taota, Tutskwa I'qatsi,
My thanks for the friendly greeting that several of you have sent me. I appreciate your friendship and will do my best to repay you in kind.
In answer to Diana's question, I am not aware of any Hopi communication with animals, although some may have done so. My Hopi father had the ability to become one with an animal and direct it, but I don't believe that is what you are asking.
For the record, I would like to clarify my earlier statement that I did not make any money on the book. The publisher does not work for free, and provided me a range of prices for the hard copy of the book; I took the lowest price offered. Although I have provided a free ebook version for everyone, and given permission to copy the book and pass it to others, some people have chosen to order a hard copy of the book from the publisher. Altogether, over nine years, I have received about $70.00 in royalties. It cost me over thirty times that amount to publish the book. In other words, I have not made money on the book, but have taken a large monetary loss in publishing it. That has not mattered to me, because I did not write the book to make money, but to help disseminate this information to as many people as possible, which I am continuing to do here.
Umumi pam taaviningwu – may the sun always shine upon you,
Upaava Hohongwitutiwa
RE: Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - Hohongwitutiwa - 10-20-2016
Ngungu'taota, Tutskwa I'qatsi (Land and Life are One),
The following will be new to most of you. As adults, it is difficult for many to set aside their past beliefs and accept new and different knowledge. I recommend, as best as you can, receiving it with an open mind, as a child does.
The highest Hopi pootskwani, or spirit law, is Tutskwa I'qatsi. This means that the Earth is our Land and our Life. It means that everything we possess, including the spirit of life itself, is given to us by our Mother Earth upon whom we are evolved toward life eternal. One of the greatest truths lost to our modern age, is an understanding of all the Earth IS and means to us. We are deeply rooted within the life of the Earth, and have been evolving upon Her, from world orbit-to-world-orbit (and density), and lifetime-to-lifetime. Each lifetime allows us the opportunity to grow in unselfishness and love (inner purification), while new and more perfect species are evolved at the end of each purification time, when the Earth (and the sister planets of our system) move up an orbit nearer the sun. Scientists have made a theory called Punctuated Equilibrium to explain the fossil record, that agrees with the Hopi knowledge.
Within the Creator's plan of evolving life, death is as natural as breathing. Hopi knowledge asserts that when we die we are held within the great life of the Earth (the Hopi know as Maski, or Spirit Home) to be reborn again later to continue our evolution-- our personal journeys of inner, spiritual purification AND Nature's part in evolving life during purification times. One of the things that the Earth provides us is TIME. Time allows us to live, die, and progress forward toward our perfected life in the orbit of the Morning Star. The core of the Earth creates a protective magnetic field, and helps generate gravity and Time. As one travels outside the influence of the Earth's gravity, evolutionary Time ceases to exist, according to our understanding.
As mentioned, the orbit of the Morning Star (Hopi call Taalawsohu) is the crowning place of ours and other systems, where life attains an angelic, imperishable form. This place is so sacred to the Hopi that when someone dies a line of sacred corn is laid from the bed of the deceased to where Venus will arise. Hopi know that when Jesus spoke of His kingdom, he was speaking of the Morning Star (the Star of David, sacred to Jewish people, is a symbol of the Morning Star):
“...I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the bright Morning Star." (Rev. 22:16)
We are the root and offspring of the Earth, next in line to ascend to the crowning place of ours (and other) systems, following in the footsteps of our Elder Brother and all our ancestors who preceded us to Taalawsohu during the last purification. To earn our places there we must live being the best people we can be, always holding fast to the Earth.
Hopi know that something deceptive is coming soon that will use lures and fear to drive us from the Earth to another place where we cannot complete our evolution. As explained, ONLY with the Earth can we reach our perfected life. I will speak more about this in future posts.
May the sun always shine upon you,
Upaava - your brother - Hohongwitutiwa
- - earth_spirit - 10-20-2016
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RE: Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - Hohongwitutiwa - 10-21-2016
Ngungu'taota, earth spirit and friends, Tutskwa I'qatsi,
May peace be with you.
I understand the feelings and beliefs people have, as I was brought up within the same predominant ideas of our age; I know how difficult it is to let go of old ideas and accept what is new and different. A holy person once said: “you hold on so tightly to what you have, that it is difficult for me to give you what you need.” Whether you realize it, or not, I am trying to provide what you need to safely progress through the days ahead when important choices will arise, choices that will profoundly affect your futures. I am going to talk about those choices, so when they arrive you will be more prepared to choose wisely. Nonetheless, the choices will be yours to make.
The Hopi knowledge harkens back to an earlier time, when there was a closer connection to the Earth and the truths of life that have since been lost to our times. In sharing the Hopi knowledge, with a respect for each person's right to find their own way, I have to detach myself as much as possible; yet my heart goes out to everyone in hopes that the truth will be found and followed, because there is very much at stake. Regardless of what some believe, eternal life is not a free gift, it must be earned. There are challenges and tests to pass in order to progress up the evolutionary ladder to the higher levels of existence you have been studying. We earn our higher places by virtue of honoring the commandments and covenants given to us by our Creator, which involve living good lives and clinging tightly to the Earth.
The Earth is in process of ascending to the crowning place of our sun system, the place of the Morning Star. There are now “wars and rumors of wars, and earthquakes in diverse places, the beginnings of birthpains” prophesied for the end of this age. The birthpains are not symbolic or metaphorical: the Earth is literally having labor pains to birth Her core-egg, followed by migrating to the orbit of the Morning Star (the Earth has migrated nearer the sun six times before to reach our present orbit and density). As with a human birth, the Earth's birthpangs will escalate as Her birth time draws nearer. As the storms and other geo-disturbances increase, fear will naturally arise which will be exploited by those who will present themselves on Earth as our friends, but who will have their own interests, not ours, in mind. They will use fear and lures to entice us to desert the Earth; that is the choice I have spoken about: to remain immovable from the Earth, or abandon Her. The Hopi knowledge I am sharing is to help you see through the deceptions, so you will not make horrible choices you cannot take back.
I will share more about these maters to help insure your understanding is clear. I do not know every detail about these subjects, but will answer any questions people have to the best of my ability.
With love and respect,
Your brother Hohongwitutiwa - Daniel
RE: Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - Diana - 10-21-2016
(10-21-2016, 03:51 AM)Hohongwitutiwa Wrote: As the storms and other geo-disturbances increase, fear will naturally arise which will be exploited by those who will present themselves on Earth as our friends, but who will have their own interests, not ours, in mind. They will use fear and lures to entice us to desert the Earth; that is the choice I have spoken about: to remain immovable from the Earth, or abandon Her. The Hopi knowledge I am sharing is to help you see through the deceptions, so you will not make horrible choices you cannot take back.
Are you referring to extraterrestrial beings?
RE: Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - hounsic - 10-21-2016
(10-19-2016, 04:46 PM)Hohongwitutiwa Wrote: Ngungu'taota SMC, and those reading here, Tutskwa I'qatsi,It's amazing to meet a fellow brother walking a different path but really the same. Much love brother
SMC, I understand and respect your passion to respect the rights of indigenous people to keep their cultural knowledge within their circles, but, respectfully, you have ignored two important points I shared in my post: the Hopi have clear instructions from the holy personage who originally provided them the Hopi Way (Masau) to share certain knowledge with the world during this time; and I am a Hopi according to Hopi tradition.
Hopi who do not follow this instruction are betraying their highest spiritual duty. To not follow this instruction is analogous to receiving an instruction from Jesus and deciding to ignore it. Also, I am only sharing certain knowledge, not everything I know, only the information the Earth's children are meant to receive at this important time in the world; this knowledge belongs to everyone and is needed to help people make wise choices when unexpected events arise that will be presented deceptively.
The name “Hopi” is often translated as “peaceful” and “honest” but Sun Clan Kikmongwi (Village leader) Dan Katchongva gave the name a deeper meaning:
“...Hopi means not only to be peaceful, but to obey and have faith in the instructions of the Great Spirit, God knows who is in the right and not to distort any of his teachings for influence or power, or in any way corrupt the Hopi Way of life. Otherwise the name will be taken away...”
My Hopi father and myself have striven to follow the above definition, although other Hopi have not, leading to a prophesied division within the Hopi, including the adoption of a governing council that was NOT approved by the Hopi people, which is under the influence of the U.S. Government, and that has done things contrary to the Hopi Way. As Dan Katchongva asserted:
“...We Hopi knew all this would come about (forces seeking to change the Hopi Way)…If we were to accept those offers from his government, that would be the doom of the Hopi Nation…We know that when the time comes, the Hopi will be reduced to maybe one person, two persons, three persons (following the Hopi Way)...”
I can assure you that not only have I not made any money from writing the book, which has been given away as free ebooks, but it has cost me money to have it privately published, not to mention the stress from dealing with people who have made lies and thrown insults at me.
I am not explaining this to defend myself, nor to enter into a long debate, but to provide an honest explanation to help assuage any anger so this information can be provided in a friendly atmosphere, as it should be given. My hope is that I have done so.
The free will of everyone should always be respected, which is why I made clear that this knowledge is given with an open hand to take or leave as one chooses.
I reiterate that the knowledge I am sharing will greatly help you see through the deceptions the Hopi know are coming, so you can walk a straight road to your highest life.
Someone has written me a private message about something I might help them with (I will answer shortly). Please feel free to send me any questions with which I may be able to assist you.
Umumi pam taaviningwu – may the sun always shine upon you,
Your brother Hohongwitutiwa
Rick
RE: Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - Hohongwitutiwa - 10-21-2016
Ngngu'taota, Diana, hounsic and friends, Tutskwa I'qatsi,
Diana-- Your question is a very good one. I will explain in a forthcoming post. I am trying to go slowly as I know this information is new to most people.
hounsic-- Your thoughts are mine, too. Thank you for your warm greeting!
I offer the following to lighten the mood and nourish everyones souls.
There is a great Circle of Life that has evolved upon the Earth as depicted in the Book of Genesis, and explained by the Hopi in my earlier posts. Humankind is the leading edge of the Earth's evolutionary life. But we-- Homo sapiens-- are not the final stage of that development. That perfected stage awaits Earth's loyal children at the end of this purification time.
Sam Robson does all 64 parts in his rendition of Elton John's The Circle of Life, from Disney's The Lion King
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_um4Qj4aJA
Pete Seeger was a musician and peace activist who spent his life uniting the people of the world in song. At age 92 in one of his last appearances, his singing voice gone, he joined a group of children singing Bob Dylan's Forever Young, a foretelling of our life in the Earth to come.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezyd40kJFq0
With love and respect,
Your brother Hohongwitutiwa - Daniel
RE: Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - Kaaron - 10-22-2016
Kia ora from Aotearoa, Daniel
My name is Kaaron. I am Maori/English/Irish/Scottish LOL. On my fathers side (Maori) I come from a couple of tribes, one up near Waipoua, where there are stone structures that for some reason, the NZ govt put an embargo on all relics and nobody is allowed in. On my other side, i have land on the western side of lake Taupo, called Waihaha (In Maori, this means "The tail end of exploding planets, where the ancients came to bathe their young". There is evidence of stone structures and pre-waka/european civilizations, obviously advanced in stone working. Caves that were then converted into dens that were used for less pure means by my more recent relatives. I have been told stories of times before the waka came to slaughter the nation of Waitaha. Part of my bloodline, are those who are referred to, as Urukehu and Patupaiarehe. Some of our nation, that existed in peace before the invasion...were tall, big boned and dark. Some short fair, red haired. Some almond eyed. It was a mixed bunch that were originally from Easter Island/Rapanui or Waitangi Ki Roto. They would migrate back and forth. Around 1700-1000 years ago, there was the Orion styled migration of the "Charriots of the God of War" of waka or boats from the pacific. There are tales of them rounding up the people of the nation of Waitaha, in circles holding hands and knocking them on the heads. They died as they lived, in peace.
I have had talks with certain Mormon Genealogy "experts", who seem to confirm other reports that the same groups that left when Jerusalem was being taken captive in 607BC, are the ones that migrated across the Americas, causing most native peoples to have Jewish blood. Then they went through to Easter Island (Rapa Nui or Waitangi Ki Roto)...then the pacific Samoa/Raratonga...and on to Aotearoa or New Zealand. He spoke of the ritualistic blood sacrifice the obviously hijacked "god of the Jews" demanded, as they came ashore in this country. He couldn't see the hypocrisy. I feel great empathy for all who believe this is the true source.
I believe that this is the source of the elitist view that is prevalent in both our cultures bro.
The whole Ariki "High born leader" and his consort Tohunga "priest"...mirror the same Moses/Aaron thing.
Keeping the knowledge of IO the supreme being secret and reserved for those who "go through the initiations"...I don't need to paint a picture...we're all well versed in these subjects.
So this is why I commend you, brother...
I feel that this is exactly what Ra, the confederation and the rest of humankind, who've made their choice and now may choose know the wisdom to balance the love of 4D, appreciate so much.
I feel like the time for keeping secrets, was for before the harvest. Now is the time for living in 4D, having the option of 5D lessons, if so chosen.
Kia O-Ra
RE: Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - Hohongwitutiwa - 10-22-2016
Nakwa Kaaron, Tutskwa I'qatsi,
It is not generally known, but the Hopi have had meetings with Hawaiian and Tibetan elders. I am skeptical of commercial films about islanders, such as Whale Rider, but found the connection of the Maori to Nature depicted in the film to be in harmony with the Hopi Way.
Hopi knowledge agrees with your information that migrations to America, as well as from other locations, derive from South Pacific Islands: our history goes far back to islands some call Mu or Lemuria.
The diaspora scattered Jewish people around the world, so your Mormon contact could be right.
This is a special time, and it is wise to set aside our beliefs so we can receive what we need without prejudice. I think you would agree that we are not capable of knowing for certain how our Creator has, or has not, chosen to set up contact with His earthly children: Moses and Aaron could have been His choice, and this arrangement may again be done if, and when, the Jewish Temple is rebuilt in Jerusalem and the Ark is found and restored to its place in the Temple. That may be happening now.
For the Hopi, the way to our highest life is found by living in harmony with the Earth, respecting Her as our creator with gratitude and devotion for all She provides us, which includes being the mother world upon whom our evolution continues to its completion (4D and beyond).
Please understand that I am here to share the Hopi knowledge and would prefer not to discuss other subjects until all that information has been given.
My the sun always shine upon you,
Upaava Hohongwitutiwa - Daniel
RE: Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - Kaaron - 10-22-2016
Kia ora Daniel
The culture that is nowdays referred to as "Maori", is the result of the combination of 2 polar opposite perspectives.
I believe that originally, the inhabitants of what has come to be known as "New Zealand", were part of a community that lived in harmony with all that is. Perhaps we were remnants of Lemuria...maybe Atlantis.
This is why you have the sense of oneness, that was preserved by some of those that were taken as slaves when the waka came...alongside that of elitism and war, which they attempted to force on us.
The word "Maori" actually, when literally translated, means "normal, usual, natural, common, ordinary." So it was a word used by us in more recent times, to describe us...in comparison to the English colonizers.
We are taught certain elements of truth, in mainstream Maori culture. The problem is that the different manifestations of the all, have been personified and given their own "godship", resulting in the pantheon of deities that seem to be across alot of indigenous belief structures. Basically, the same thing that happened in Egypt.
What you say about Moses and Aaron is interesting. I would be interested to know more. Do you have any suggestions of credible places to begin research?
It's good to have you around, sharing truth.
Welcome my bro
RE: Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - Kaaron - 10-23-2016
"migrations to America, as well as from other locations, derive from South Pacific Islands"
Can you elaborate on this comment please bro? It would be a great help in filling in some gaps in my own research.
RE: Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - Hohongwitutiwa - 10-23-2016
Nakwa Kaaron, Tutskwa I'qatsi,
I'tupko, my brother, please allow me to finish sharing the Hopi knowledge before speaking about other subjects which I am less informed about. My references to past migrations of peoples come from my personal studies.
If you do your own research, to the best of my memory, anthropologists have believed people migrated over a past ice-bridge from America eastward to Europe, and via a land bridge going from Siberia to the western end of North America, as well as by boat from South Pacific islands. Newer knowledge may update that belief.
Love and respect,
Hohongwitutiwa - Daniel
RE: Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - Hohongwitutiwa - 10-23-2016
Ngungu'taota, Tutskwa I'qatsi,
Diana asked about my reference to those who would exploit our fear in the coming times, asking if they were extraterrestrials. I will speak about them in this post.
The most important thing to remember, the central topic of everything I speak about, is our Mother Earth. To us, the universe is alive-- a universe whose life and awareness ensouls every star and world; where life is nested together from largest to smallest, life within life— the universe is alive, so our galaxies are alive, so our solar systems are alive, and so our Earth is also a living, conscious entity from whom we receive our own life. Life cannot be supported by something that is dead; if our Earth was dead, we would not have life. Every planet is a unique, life supporting living entity. This means that the spirit of life itself comes “down” to us from our Mother Earth, who, indeed, provides us everything we have!
From the large thread on Time on this website, people are obviously interested in this topic. Time is a subject the Hopi believe is very important to our futures, as I will discuss. Time is expected to change in the near future. For us, this change will be from the calendar time we have with our Earth Mother, to knowledge and use of a new time structure following its disclosure to the world. We have long known of this other time, which is not meant for us while we are still unfinished in our evolutionary progress as we are now. We know this Time structure as “time as direction,” an entry into a time reality that has always existed, and accessed through the use of compass direction. The Space-Time system (Time as Direction), soon to be acclaimed throughout our world (End Time), will not be read as seconds, minutes, and hours as we have now, but as degrees, and seconds of degrees as on a compass (direction). Every “moment” in Time will be a “point/place” in space, hence the term “Space-Time” (also, Divided-Time, Split-Time, Half-Time, and Arcadia, among other references).
We know that some people have long been secretly using this time structure. H.G. Wells wrote a story about a machine built to travel in Time. But it doesn’t require a special machine to turn our backs on God and our higher life. Not only is Time travel possible, it has been happening all around us, but the means to do so has been kept a dark secret. One group hides it from us for our own good, because it is the ultimate temptation leading us away from heaven, others keep it a secret for vast financial gain and political power. By using this temporal knowledge, our entire planet becomes a “gateway” to the rest of the solar system, and the solar system, a “gateway” to the universe. “Gateway” technology has always been here, but the knowledge has been suppressed by those who secretly use it.
The history of the war between religion and secret orders goes back to time immemorial, and its crux, as with most wars, has been a battle over territory: the Space-Time/Divided Time domain. There are people - a handful of the very rich and famous, the members of certain secret societies, private clubs, and political leaders - who have crossed the threshold of Real-Time (the Time given us on Earth) into Split-Time. Elders inform us that these people have hand signals and items of jewelry that allow them to distinguish one another from among those who have not gone into the Space-Time/Divided-Time realm.
According to our knowledge, the time frame that will be shown to us is an ungodly realm, warned about going far back in history. This place is represented on the Hopi Prophecy Rock by the zig-zag line at the end of the upper road, going to oblivion. We would advise you that when you hear of this place, do not be ensared by sweet words, amazing technology, nor wonderful promises— this will be a deception meant to lure us away from our Mother Earth, the one safe place and time taking us home to Taalawsohu-Fifth World and our "higher" life.
The following are the words of my Hopi father, shared on a website set up for him before he died at age 102 in 1999:
“...We believe there are many aliens who inhabit our universe, and, as with people here in our own World, some are good, and some are bad. All the good aliens have died and evolved to a higher life form, a life form that can live closer to the sun. We cannot see them, but they are there. They always occupy the Morning Star in any solar system. These good brothers and sisters know very well the rewards of the final human form. They know the peace that comes along with having the full use of the evolved human brain, and with hearing the full sound spectrum through the evolved human ear, and seeing the full color spectrum through the evolved human eye. They know the love and respect that comes with the wisdom of using every neuron in the evolved human brain. They would never deprive us of these great gifts of life and evolution. They would never entice us to leave our Earth Mother! Only by remaining with Her can we achieve the final step in our evolution.
Again, some may say, “we have no choice but to remain with Her!” We believe the choice will come. We believe that aliens will come and try to convince us to leave Her, and go with them. They will come when End Time is upon this World. We all know that End Time will be accompanied with devastation (the Earth’s birth pains), with tidal waves and earthquakes and volcanoes. We believe that when this is happening the aliens will descend on our Earth Mother and use everything in their power to convince us we should leave with them: “Your planet is going to self-destruct! Come with us; we live in a beautiful World where there is only good health and peace, where there is no poverty, no hunger, no disease.” They may even stoop so low as to call their world heaven, The Fifth World, Paradise, and other names of glory which are used to describe the Morning Star. But if we listen to them, if we go with them, we are assured of desolation. These terrible and ungodly aliens are ancient (by our earthly standards), and some of them have very beautiful bodies. But how did they get their beautiful bodies? How long can their bodies remain alive? Having stepped out of Nature and natural processes, having turned their backs on evolution, how do they sustain their lives?...”
May the sun always shine upon you,
Upaava Hohongwitutiwa - Daniel
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RE: Hopi Law of Life AND L/L Law of One - Diana - 10-24-2016
I have a few questions:
1. Is the website with your father's words still up? If so, could you give us the URL?
2. Could we hear more about the "bad" aliens and what they want with us according to Hopi teachings? I heard a speech at a MUFON meeting many years ago by a Native American (can't recall if he was Hopi) basically saying the same thing about extraterrestrials—not to listen and that they are out to destroy and exploit.
3. Your comments about time are interesting. Are you familiar with Carlos Castaneda's books? Time is talked about therein at a certain point. The idea is that Carlos was taught by his mentor Don Juan to "change the direction of time." Is this similar to what you refer to?