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Thinking too much about food... - Observer - 03-13-2017
Well, about 6 months ago I went vegetarian! Now, sometimes I even have difficulty taking food in. I find myself thinking way too much about what i'm ingesting and I often feel bad about eating things. What can really be done about this? I know we have to eat to survive but I still feel like eating plant life is eating life in general.
RE: Thinking too much about food... - Coordinate_Apotheosis - 03-13-2017
I struggle with this often.
If its helpful, I might mention that in time/space, the entity you consume persists and in some ways may be aware of your sadness at hurting it to consume it to survive. In the loving nature of 2D rising to awareness, this care for it, as we eat it, might help speed up its acquiring self awareness.
Everything is a service it seems like more and more. To eat is to unite. Let your food know you care about it, it didn't incarnate as a Human foodstuff just to grow and decay. It's aware that humans eat its variety of being. Just like a 3D soul knows usually when its going into a short incarnation for whatever reason, a 2D foodstuff knows its food to something. I'm sure most animals know they are food to something. I think trees know they're used as a resource by humans. I don't see why the fruit they grow wouldn't share in this awareness.
RE: Thinking too much about food... - Cainite - 03-13-2017
Well... you could do what Aghori Sadhus do.. they eat dead things.
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RE: Thinking too much about food... - Billy - 03-13-2017
(03-13-2017, 12:09 AM)Observer Wrote: Well, about 6 months ago I went vegetarian! Now, sometimes I even have difficulty taking food in. I find myself thinking way too much about what i'm ingesting and I often feel bad about eating things. What can really be done about this? I know we have to eat to survive but I still feel like eating plant life is eating life in general.
Ultimately, we have to eat other life in order to survive, like you wrote. There isn't really any way around that, unless you are able to achieve what some adepts have, where you no longer consume food. How feasible is such a feat though? And on top of that, is it really necessary? Observer, my main advice would be to not worry about it, as simple as that sounds. You have gone vegetarian, and that in and of itself is a big step and sign of your intent, and I think that is great. It is no small feat. My personal opinion is that for plants, offering themselves up as sustenance so that another life form can continue its existence, is an act of great service for them. Like a mission accomplished, a joyous thing. And I think a good response to such an act of service is gratitude, and what better way to do that than to enjoy and feel good about the food you are eating.
RE: Thinking too much about food... - 1109 - 03-13-2017
I don't think the consciousness of most plants is differentiated. You're basically eating from Mother Earth what she provides. It is as it should be. Gratitude is the great reliever. Love the food, love the Earth, love your body.
RE: Thinking too much about food... - GreatSpirit - 03-13-2017
Seems like you're still trying to make a choice whether to include animal products or find out "whats the best diet".
Do your research though. Why do you want to change your diet? Are you insulin resistant? Are you becoming vegetarian/vegan out of compassion? Do you need to lose body fat? Is eating meat healthy? What's my plan then? What foods taste good to me? Ask those questions.
I read the title of the post first and initially thought you were obsessing over food trying to lose weight.
Food is a touchy subject with me, I continue my fast when I wake up and eat once or maybe twice a day what I believe is healthy and works....and I'm done. No more thinking of food. It's gotten to that point with me. Trying to see food just as fuel...not a lover.
RE: Thinking too much about food... - Diana - 03-13-2017
First of all, congratulations and a big thank you from the animals farmed for food.
I understand the dilemma. For many years I have asked not to be given or bought flowers, because I don't like killing that part of a plant just for decoration and watching them slowly die. I don't even like stepping on grasses.
I have that feeling sometimes too while eating plant life. But I must eat or perish. Sometimes I think of Van Gogh, who suffered greatly because of all the suffering he saw. He would only eat potatoes at one point because he knew a family too poor to afford anything beyond the potatoes they grew.
The way I think of it is that I make choices that do the least harm. Plants have evolved to need animals to eat parts of them to propagate, and they don't die just because the fruits, seeds, flowers (like broccoli) and leaves are harvested. Plants don't have the same systems as we and animals do, especially a nervous system. Though plants have a survival instinct like all other life here, that survival is not the same as animal life. There are many factors that suggest plants are more geared to being eaten as sustenance, whereas we absolutely know animals do not want to be slaughtered (nevermind the torture they may endure in factory farms especially). You could mow down a field of weeds, wildflowers, wild plants, grasses, and the root systems would survive and continue to produce. Compare this to cutting of a leg of a cow. There are so many pointers that lead one to see plants as the natural (and kinder) food of this existence—since food there must be. Of course commercial farming is not ideal and does not usually align with any sort of compassion.
Gentle treatment, appreciation, and as 1109 said "Love the food, love the Earth, love your body" is helpful in generating good feelings about having to eat.
RE: Thinking too much about food... - sjel - 03-14-2017
(03-13-2017, 03:51 AM)Cainite Wrote: Well... you could do what Aghori Sadhus do.. they eat dead things.
Wow!!! They are incredible Cainite! A similar thought has passed my own mind... "how would I find the ultimate Love in the darkest place?" Very interesting, I would love to meet a true Aghori Sadhu someday, when I am ready.
As for eating. I have that problem a LOT. In the last two months I had a lot of severe stomachaches - simply because of my own perception of food. Food was feeling like a chore. "I don't want to eat, I want infinite bliss." I think that is a symptom of desiring death a little more. Of desiring the higher states where you don't have to eat.
HOWEVER, eating benefits OTHERS MORE THAN IT BENEFITS YOU. This is what helped to appreciate eating. You are not eating to nourish your own health, you are eating for others' health!
Treat every bite as a gift to others. Every morsel of food that enters your body, it adds a new flavor of existence that was much needed - a perspective on life that was much longed for by those with whom you interact. Even a bad food. ESPECIALLY bad food, in fact. Bad food brings up negative programs that are pent up inside you. A perfectly Self-Realized entity can eat anything and remain unchanged. Therefore, every negative reaction you have to food can be transmuted into Love. The more negative it is, the more positive potential it has.
It might not be easy at first. Don't get mad at yourself for still not enjoying food. But hopefully this seed will plant in your mind and you will start to enjoy food more.
RE: Thinking too much about food... - Agua del Cielo - 03-14-2017
Some time ago i had an experience i want to Share with you:
I was on weed and been eating potato chips when the big hunger came.
I like eating anyway very much and have a huge appreciation for Food and eating in general.
I was so delighted by the taste of the chips, and i was so grateful for the potato offering itself aus food.
All of a sudden, i was connected to the "potato spirit".
It was a huge huge consciousness, so big it was almost too much.
I was overwhelmed by the immense Love this being "carried".
I was feeling such a joy and love from this spirit offering itself as food for animals and humans.
I had similar experiences with other Food such als onions for example
I believe these plants offer themselves freely aus Food as Part of their life cycle.
Ive read similar experiences by other people on animals, but didnt experience this so far.
I think we should take some things into account:
Humans have a very different view on physical death than plants or animals.
Humans are behind the veil and excessively identifying with the physical form, for that reason i think we have a different view on dying.
It's the physical form that dies, not the consciousness.
Additionally, in my experience, Second density beings such as plants an animals have more of a collective consciousness, meaning, one consciousness incarnated in multipleforms simultaneously.
In that regard the carrying on of the incarnation is not so much dependant on one Form exclusively.
But since I am no potato, i cannot know for sure,this is what i have experienced in connecting withthose spirits.
What is very important in my opinion, is how we treat those beings whilethey are incarnated.
The making of Industrial food causes an awful lot of suffering, especially for animals.
I think honoring these beings and providing what they need while they live is very important als well aus honoring them for offering aus food.
RE: Thinking too much about food... - sjel - 03-14-2017
(03-14-2017, 04:49 AM)Agua del Cielo Wrote: Some time ago i had an experience i want to Share with you:
I was on weed and been eating potato chips when the big hunger came.
I like eating anyway very much and have a huge appreciation for Food and eating in general.
I was so delighted by the taste of the chips, and i was so grateful for the potato offering itself aus food.
All of a sudden, i was connected to the "potato spirit".
It was a huge huge consciousness, so big it was almost too much.
I was overwhelmed by the immense Love this being "carried".
I was feeling such a joy and love from this spirit offering itself as food for animals and humans.
I had similar experiences with other Food such als onions for example
Wow wow wow!!! Very cool Agua!! Potato consciousness!! I had a fleeting image of this consciousness, as I just ate some delicious roasted potatoes tonight! Now I will search more consciously for communion with the plants and animals I eat, and especially the potato consciousness
Weed consciousness certainly encourages such connections. Wow now I am thinking of how there is literally a consciousness for every thing that exists! Weed, potatoes, carpet, magnifying glasses, toilets... wowowowww I love this new thought train that is occurring... so many new worlds to explore... Thank you Agua del Cielo
RE: Thinking too much about food... - Agua del Cielo - 03-14-2017
I have more of a Yogic background, but my girlfriend comes from a shamanic Tradition.
This has very much enriched my life and my seeking.
The shamanic approach is a Little more down to earth, connections with plants, animals are very important.
I think getting into this stuff has caused such experiences.
Very beautiful, especially for ne, since i struggled with earthly life for decades.
It has definitely broughtme more into honoring nature, food, plants and animals much more!
It also brought a lot of insight and a different perspective on the subject of food.
I think this might be worthwile for the OP to explore!
Another Word on weed journeys:
I find Intention, set and setting of utmost importance.
I always Start with a prayer, trying to connect with the "weed spirit" giving thanks forthe substance and the energy and asking for guidance and help.
Since i so this, the journeys have deepened considerably.
I was sometimes even able to connect with plant energy like ayahuasca or mushrooms although i didnt ingest it (on weed though), very fascinating.
But i also suggest other shamanic methods to enter a State of trance, like shamanic drumming.
You can reach states als Deep als with substances!
Thats cheaper in the Long run
It's only difficult when there is too much Control, in These cases i Need the aid of substances
But back to topic:
I would suggest to the OP to maybe get a little into that approach, it could give a different perspective on the Food subject!
@sjel
If youre into experiences like these, i highly recommend the Michael Roads books, especially the newer ones. You will die from fascination, atleast i did
RE: Thinking too much about food... - Coordinate_Apotheosis - 03-14-2017
Agua del Cielo Wrote: You will die from fascination, atleast i did
Well its good to know you reincarnated back with us to share this knowledge
RE: Thinking too much about food... - Agua del Cielo - 03-14-2017
Im not incarnate anymore, bring4th Forum software has a channeling module that receives my messages
RE: Thinking too much about food... - AnthroHeart - 03-14-2017
(03-14-2017, 04:20 PM)Agua del Cielo Wrote: Im not incarnate anymore, bring4th Forum software has a channeling module that receives my messages
That's like I say "I don't know English. I've just been guessing this whole time."