Quote:the unity of the Creator exists within the smallest portion of any material created by Love

Quote:The smallest of lapses may disturb the regularity of this pattern of energies which forms the channel for these transmissions.

Quote:There are no second-density consciousness complexes here on your sphere at this time.

Quote:This sphere should not properly be called a planet as it is locked in first density.

Quote:The surrounding of self in a sylvan atmosphere, apart from distractions, in a place of working used for no other purpose, in which you and your associates agree to lay aside all goals but that of the meditative seeking of the Infinite Creator is, shall we say, not gadgetry but the making use of the creation of the Father in second-density love, and in the love and support of otherselves.

Questioner Wrote:The whole point of the thread was to meet the criteria for the Strictly Law of One forum, applying specific citations from Ra to a specific aspect of everyday life. I suspect the mini-golf comment in the forum list was a joke, but I wanted to seriously pursue the opportunity to apply the criteria, exactly as stated, fully compliant with the spirit of the discussion. How is this thread not relevant for the Strictly forum?

(08-17-2010, 11:42 PM)Aaron Wrote: I have a feeling that means that the only way this thread could stay in the Strictly forum is if Ra had specifically talked about mini-golf.

(08-18-2010, 02:25 AM)Questioner Wrote:
See, surely this would have eventually come up in the conversation.

(08-17-2010, 04:08 PM)Questioner Wrote: 9.17

Quote:There are no second-density consciousness complexes here on your sphere at this time.

I was looking for quotes about sphere in terms of golf balls. However, this line brought me up short: I've apparently been wrong about suggesting that pack animals and trees demonstrate 2d consciousness in our world today. They're clearly not 1d elemental forces. Therefore, they must be 3d along with us, simply at a lowest level.
Here's an example of how, just as getting past one mini-golf shot lines you for a fresh new vista, study of the Law of One can open surprising new perspectives in unexpected ways.

(08-19-2010, 09:06 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: It's certainly true that re-reading the Law of One sessions can open surprising new perspectives. However, in this case I don't believe Ra is saying that there are no second-density creatures on earth now. Your earlier supposition that animals and plant are second density is correct, I believe. If you re-read the full question and answer you'll see that Ra seems to misunderstand Don's question. I believe that they were saying there are no second-density social memory complexes here now, though there are third-density beings in second-density form, such as what we know as Bigfoot.

(08-18-2010, 04:25 PM)Lavazza Wrote:

(08-18-2010, 02:25 AM)Questioner Wrote:
See, surely this would have eventually come up in the conversation.

Don't putt your ball in to one of those pyramids unless you are prepared for it to undergo intense initiation!

(08-20-2010, 12:10 PM)3D Sunset Wrote: Although this quote seems misleading, I think Ra's use of the term "second-density consciousness complexes" is interesting and, as usual for Ra, intentional. I believe that Ra means that there are no "uninspirited" people.

Quote:Recall that the human form was in use for thousands of years before Earth's 3D began.

Quote:I believe that Ra thought Don was asking if there were any races with human form, that were not actually 3D inspirited beings. Ra's answer points to the importance that he places on viewing the equality of all using the human form, especially since Don chose to select "Race" to distinguish among people. In his response, Ra seems adamant in quashing the notion that some races are better than others.

Quote:9.17 Questioner: Is there any particular race of people on our planet now who were incarnated here from second density?

Ra: I am Ra. There are no second-density consciousness complexes here on your sphere at this time. However, there are two races which use the second-density form. One is the entities from the planetary sphere you call Maldek. These entities are working their understanding complexes through a series of what you would call karmic restitutions. They dwell within your deeper underground passageways and are known to you as “Bigfoot.”

The other race is that being offered a dwelling in this density by guardians who wish to give the mind/body/spirit complexes of those who are of this density at this time appropriately engineered physical vehicles, as you would call these chemical complexes, in the event that there is what you call nuclear war.

(08-22-2010, 10:44 AM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: Could be. Whatever "second-density consciousness complex" means, I think we can agree that it is different than a regular old second density creature and we can safely conclude that Ra didn't mean that there are no second-density life forms on earth now.

Law of One, Book I, Session 6 Wrote:Questioner: Do any of the UFOs presently reported at this time come from other planets, or do you have this knowledge?

Ra: I am Ra. I am one of the members of the Confederation of Planets in the Service of the Infinite Creator. There are approximately fifty-three civilizations, comprising approximately five hundred planetary consciousness complexes in this Confederation.

Law of One, Book I, Session 21 Wrote:Questioner: When the 75,000 year cycle started, the life span was approximately nine hundred years, average. What was the process and scheduling mechanism, shall I say, of reincarnation at that time, and how did the time in between incarnations into third-density physical apply to the growth of the mind/body/spirit complex?

Ra: I am Ra. This query is more complex than most. We shall begin. The incarnation pattern of the beginning third-density mind/body/spirit complex begins in darkness, for you may think or consider of your density as one of, as you may say, a sleep and a forgetting. This is the only plane of forgetting. It is necessary for the third-density entity to forget so that the mechanisms of confusion or free will may operate upon the newly individuated consciousness complex.

Law of One, Book II, Session 28 Wrote:Questioner: Are you saying then that we have not only a polarity of electrical charge but also a polarity in consciousness at that time?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. All is potentially available from the beginning of your physical space/time; it then being the function of consciousness complexes to begin to use the physical materials to gain experience to then polarize in a metaphysical sense. The potentials for this are not created by the experiencer but by intelligent energy.

Quote:It was more ape-like than human before third-density began. "9.14 ...The two higher of the sub-vibrational levels of second-density beings had the configuration of the biped, as you mentioned. However, the erectile movement which you experience was not totally effected in these beings who were tending towards the leaning forward, barely leaving the quadrupedal position."

(08-22-2010, 10:44 AM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: This is the quote in question, but I don't see the quashing or the admantness:

(08-22-2010, 06:13 PM)Questioner Wrote: However the two examples given of 2D still seem to be to be a lot lower levels of consciousness than either dogs or trees.

(08-23-2010, 03:14 PM)3D Sunset Wrote: I always found this quote interesting, because it indicates that there are more planetary consciousness complexes (500), than civilizations (53). I read this to mean that there are member planetary consciousness complexes that have not yet developed their own civilizations. Ra's use of the word "comprising", though, implies that the 53 civilizations cover the 500 planets.

(08-23-2010, 03:14 PM)3D Sunset Wrote: I am familiar with this quote, but the literal reading of it is contrary to modern scientific findings. According to modern science, and carbon dated remains, the modern homo sapien form has been the same for around 200,000 years (and "erect" for almost 2 million). Although this appears to be in conflict with Ra's statement, I think that it was during this time, beginning around 2 million years ago, and culminating between 200,000 and 75,000 years ago that the modern human form was evolved, tested and "tweaked" to be ready for the start of our 3D term. Also, given that Ra indicated that it was largely evolution that was used to create the human form, it seems illogical that there would be as great a change as described above in such a short duration just prior to 75,000 years ago.

Quote:14.3 Questioner: Then what was the second-density form—what did it look like—that became Earth-man in the third density? What did he look like in the second density?

Ra: I am Ra. The difference between second- and third-density bodily forms would in many cases have been more like one to the other. In the case of your planetary sphere the process was interrupted by those who incarnated here from the planetary sphere you call Mars. They were adjusted by genetic changing and, therefore, there was some difference which was of a very noticeable variety rather than the gradual raising of the bipedal forms upon your second-density level to third-density level. This has nothing to do with the so-called placement of the soul. This has only to do with the circumstances of the influx of those from that culture.

(08-23-2010, 03:14 PM)3D Sunset Wrote: Another interesting thing to consider, is that perhaps those of Maldek were originally incarnated into the people we call Neanderthal's, rather than "Big Foots" . Note that modern science dates Neanderthal's emergence at about 600,000 years ago, which matches up pretty nicely with Ra's description of when those of Maldek began their restitution. As most of those of Maldek completed their restitution, the Neanderthal's died out about 30,000 years ago. After that time, for those that still had restitution to complete, they may have begun incarnating into the Big Foot form. This would also separate them from the increasingly active humans that might tend to enslave those of a less "elite" form.

(08-23-2010, 03:14 PM)3D Sunset Wrote: That said, I still feel my interpretation is worthy of consideration.

(08-23-2010, 10:56 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: I assume that the civilizations contain multiple planets.

(08-23-2010, 10:56 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: Well, Ra does say that it was an abrupt change.

(08-23-2010, 10:56 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: You seem to be more up on the scientific literature than I am. Are scientists still looking for the "missing link"? This quote suggests that they won't soon find it.

(08-23-2010, 10:56 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: Dear friend, I have always found any interpretation you take the time to post to be worthy of consideration.

(08-23-2010, 03:14 PM)3D Sunset Wrote: I always found this quote interesting, because it indicates that there are more planetary consciousness complexes (500), than civilizations (53). I read this to mean that there are member planetary consciousness complexes that have not yet developed their own civilizations. Ra's use of the word "comprising", though, implies that the 53 civilizations cover the 500 planets. This is the only place that Ra refers to "planetary consciousness complexes", although he does refer to "planetary consciousness" on several occasions.

(08-25-2010, 10:05 AM)3D Sunset Wrote: I still don't see that this is contrary to my interpretation. It would seem to me that the changes from Neanderthal-like 2D forms to homo sapiens are those being described by Ra as the "noticeable variety.. to do with the influx" from Mars. That is to say, the Yahweh related changes. In order to reconcile Ra with modern scientific discovery, this would mean that the Yahweh changes concluded about 75,000 years ago when the influx from Mars was initiated, the quarantine was initiated, and 3D work began here on Earth.

That said, I am the first to admit that reconciling modern science with The Law of One usually involves some amount of "loose interpretation", shall we say, of both sources of information.

(08-25-2010, 10:05 AM)3D Sunset Wrote: The missing link would is a bridge between apes and our direct human ancestors, which would have occurred more than 2 million years ago (probably in the 6-10 million year range). What I think Ra is describing are changes much later and more subtle than that.

(08-26-2010, 12:29 PM)Lavazza Wrote: Could it be that at the level of a planet's own consciousness, it can choose to join confederations? Maybe not likely, but an interesting thought perhaps.

(08-31-2010, 08:30 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: Do you mean the planet itself as opposed to the social memory complex inhabiting it?

(09-01-2010, 01:36 PM)Lavazza Wrote: Yes. It's a long shot theory, but working with the assumption of Gaia as being on some level consciously aware, perhaps planetary entities have more of a say in higher densities of the sort of entities that will live upon it's surface? I'm really just musing though.

Quote:29.9 Questioner: Then the planet which we walk upon here would be some form of sub-sub-Logos. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. A planetary entity is so named only as Logos if It is working in harmonic fashion with entities or mind/body complexes upon Its surface or within Its electromagnetic field.

(09-02-2010, 10:49 AM)βαθμιαίος Wrote:

(09-01-2010, 01:36 PM)Lavazza Wrote: Yes. It's a long shot theory, but working with the assumption of Gaia as being on some level consciously aware, perhaps planetary entities have more of a say in higher densities of the sort of entities that will live upon it's surface? I'm really just musing though.

The only relevant quote I know of seems to be saying that the planet is still part of the logos (sun):

Quote:29.9 Questioner: Then the planet which we walk upon here would be some form of sub-sub-Logos. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. A planetary entity is so named only as Logos if It is working in harmonic fashion with entities or mind/body complexes upon Its surface or within Its electromagnetic field.

(09-06-2010, 03:21 PM)Questioner Wrote: 1. grab the stick thingy
2. swing
3. hope!

(09-06-2010, 03:21 PM)Questioner Wrote: You have a far more sophisticated miniature gold technique than I do, my friend. My algorithm for miniature golf is:

1. grab the stick thingy
2. swing
3. hope!