(04-27-2018, 07:24 PM)cel Wrote: Carla Rueckert in Living the Law of One for STO provides the shining examples of the Peace Pilgrim and MLK (pages 82-87).  Being supremely peaceful with the intention of transforming society locally (nay, globally) you can achieve by striving as best you can to demonstrate and share the ultimate peaceful, loving state of being.


Some kind souls in this world volunteer their time by feeding the poor and ministering to the sick. You could call these acts by individuals as literally “serving” or helping “others”, because these are both examples of loving kindness and charity.  But “chartity” is not what Ra means when s/he strictly refers to STO.  STO to Ra means causing another lost soul to remember his or her true origin as a being of Radiant Light. Graduation through STO means helping at least one other lost soul reach mystical union with the Creator, even if for a few fleeting moments. The temporary mystical experience - - feeling the Creator’s love flow inside, around and through you - - is a unique, special privilege. Such individual transcendence is indicative of success, in terms of graduation from 3rd to 4th Density. This is the whole purpose of human existence on this blue-green orb.  

In comparison, spending time at a soup kitchen is by itself strictly not STO. Is this correct? 

What about alleviating suffering through other means like perhaps by practicing “Reiki”?  Is this by itself what Ra is referring to as STO or not? 

I question whether Ra means healing suffering (Reiki or any other modality) as a true path to graduation because graduation involves so much more than reducing someone else’s pain.  Ra’s STO path involves helping or inspiring in someone else to “open to intelligent infinity”(17.2)  Reducing someone else’s material suffering on a grand scale or tiny scale is not the experience of Enlightenment that Ra describes that leads to graduation. Am I right?

Can someone please verify my understanding here and provide some clarity?

L.V.X

(04-27-2018, 09:15 PM)johncarson698 Wrote: Ok , are we trying to define what 'Service to Other' means to us? or the 'Service to Other Path' stated by Ra?

My understanding is that the 'STO Path' is simply anything that yields a 51% positive polarity and activates and balances your chakras to a degree, but mainly your Green Ray (4th) Chakra.

A byproduct of the STO Path, is that the individual has a strong desire to help others.  Thats not to say that helping others can help you further polarize, but directly helping others is not a pre-req for polarizing 51% positive.

(04-27-2018, 09:36 PM)Louisabell Wrote:

(04-27-2018, 09:15 PM)johncarson698 Wrote: Ok , are we trying to define what 'Service to Other' means to us? or the 'Service to Other Path' stated by Ra?

My understanding is that the 'STO Path' is simply anything that yields a 51% positive polarity and activates and balances your chakras to a degree, but mainly your Green Ray (4th) Chakra.

A byproduct of the STO Path, is that the individual has a strong desire to help others.  Thats not to say that helping others can help you further polarize, but directly helping others is not a pre-req for polarizing 51% positive.

I was just replying on service itself, and how one can be efficient in it. Honestly I have heard of various accounts of what it means to have a 51% positive polarity. I thought from reading the Ra material that 51% is symbolic of saying: I care about the welfare of others slightly more than myself, which metaphysically means, my personality has been disintegrated enough that my joy comes from observing over manifesting a certain persona.

In this state, I don't see how you wouldn't account for others in your daily round of activities, even if just consciously being a passive radiator of love or love/light. It is easy to see how martyrdom can come in into it, and I think it can be balanced in wisdom in seeing it is not good service to allow martyrdom to occur, not necessarily because it's not good for you, but because it's not good for the people committing the violence.

Other people have said that the 51% positive polarity just means that a person has to have the majority of their thoughts as kind and loving, which I tend to not think is so, because then why was there so small a potential harvest at the time of the channeling?

So what does it actually mean to polarize? What causes it, the quality of service or the state of mind/internal freedom? I'm still wondering about that.

(04-27-2018, 07:24 PM)cel Wrote: In comparison, spending time at a soup kitchen is by itself strictly not STO. Is this correct? 

Quote:If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not LOVE, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.
And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not LOVE, I am nothing.
If I give away all I have, and if I deliver up my body to be burned, but have not LOVE, I gain nothing.

(1 Cor 13)

(04-27-2018, 09:36 PM)Louisabell Wrote: Other people have said that the 51% positive polarity just means that a person has to have the majority of their thoughts as kind and loving, which I tend to not think is so, because then why was there so small a potential harvest at the time of the channeling?

• Red Ray: It's a rough world out, there, and you have to toil and work hard to survive. Life is also dangerous. A lot of this involves money worries, or expecting daily life to be painful/hard/unenjoyable. I would say settling for an unenjoyable job for a long period of time is also a distortion of this level. Worrying about losing your house. Etc.
  

• Orange Ray: I'm not a good person if I think X. I'm not a good person if I did Y. I'm not a good person if I'm not a hardworker. I can never forgive myself for doing X to someone. I shouldn't be attracted to X because they or I am not single (don't cheat or act on it necessarily, but accepting your own sexual energy/emotions rather than suppressing them is important). It is my duty to do X, although I hate doing it. I should do Y, because culture/society/family expectations say so though it brings me unhappiness. The cultural, familial, and personal self-judgments destroy our orange. Hell, even the [extended?] family-comes-first ideal which is often idolized in all societies and religion Ra specifically mentions is a nonpolarizing belief held over from 2nd density experience, which probably distorts orange, yellow, and green ray all at the same time.
  

• Yellow Ray: I'm powerless. I don't fit in it. I hate society. There is more to the yellow ray but I am still exploring this ray.
  

• Green Ray: Never be too open, because you will get hurt. If you are too kind, you will be taken advantage of (perhaps also a yellow ray). I can never accept or forgive or understand child molesters/murderers/X because that would mean I'm ok with it.
  

(04-28-2018, 06:35 PM)xise Wrote: You often hear people ask the question on the forum: "I know a lot of 'good hearted' people but how is it that the positive harvest is so low?" In short, it's because they haven't broken free of mainstream culture or family culture, which harbors an enormous bundle of harmful red, orange, yellow ray, or even green ray beliefs.

Quote:The scientific evidence ... leaves little doubt that love and intimacy are powerful determinants of our health and survival. Why they have such an impact remains somewhat a mystery. (Dr. Ornish)

Quote:41.14 Questioner: Is this [orange] energy center [of a single-celled entity], then, on a very small scale related to the orange energy center in man?

Ra: I am Ra. The true color is precisely the same. However, the consciousness of the second-density beginning is primitive and the use of orange ray limited to the expression of self which may be seen to be movement and survival.

In third density, at this time, those clinging to orange ray have a much more complex system of distortions through which orange ray is manifested. This is somewhat complicated. We shall endeavor to simplify.

The appropriate true color for third density is, as you have ascertained, yellow. However, the influences of the true color, green, acting upon yellow-ray entities have caused many entities to revert to the consideration of self rather than the stepping forward into consideration of other-self or green ray. This may not be seen to be of a negatively polarized nature, as the negatively polarized entity is working very intensively with the deepest manifestations of yellow-ray group energies, especially the manipulations of other-self for service to self. Those reverting to orange ray, and we may add these are many upon your plane at this time, are those who feel the vibrations of true color green and, therefore, respond by rejecting governmental and societal activities as such and seek once more the self.

However, not having developed the yellow ray properly so that it balances the personal vibratory rates of the entity, the entity then is faced with the task of further activation and balancing of the self in relation to the self, thus the orange-ray manifestations at this space/time nexus.

Thus true color orange is that which it is, without difference. However, the manifestations of this or any ray may be seen to be most various depending upon the vibratory levels and balances of the mind/body or mind/body/spirit complexes which are expressing these energies.

(04-27-2018, 07:24 PM)cel Wrote: Can someone please verify my understanding here and provide some clarity?

(04-27-2018, 07:24 PM)cel Wrote: I question whether Ra means healing suffering (Reiki or any other modality) as a true path to graduation because graduation involves so much more than reducing someone else’s pain.  Ra’s STO path involves helping or inspiring in someone else to “open to intelligent infinity”(17.2)  Reducing someone else’s material suffering on a grand scale or tiny scale is not the experience of Enlightenment that Ra describes that leads to graduation. Am I right?

(04-30-2018, 09:07 AM)Nau7ik Wrote: The intention is the all-important item of interest here. Simply spending time at a soup kitchen is unpolarizing. One is not polarizing on either pole. The intention to help feed people because they are hungry and in need, and this moves you to service, IS service to others polarizing. Going to a soup kitchen with the intentions of appearing to be compassionate and charitable, even though you are technically serving them, would be polarizing along the service to self pole.

(04-29-2018, 07:35 PM)unity100 Wrote: One of the major reasons why harvest is low is probably that the logos of this solar system has chosen a rather physically weak body in order to foster positive polarity. This is the monkey body we inhabit.

(04-30-2018, 11:29 PM)xise Wrote: But perhaps it's par for the course. After all, Hatton went 4D positive after their 3D society basically reduced their civilization to rubble with a worldwide war, to paraphrase the l/l channeling on the subject, and Hatton specifically states it was because of the interaction of survival fears versus just letting go of those survival fears in order to fully embrace others and share the very limited resources so that more can survive. Maybe there's much more to this red ray issues springboarding into strong polarization than we realize.

Quote:89.28 Questioner: What was Ra’s average total population incarnate on Venus in third density, the number?

Ra: I am Ra. We were a small population which dwelt upon what you would consider difficult conditions. Our harvest was approximately 6 million 500 thousand mind/body/spirit complexes. There were approximately 32 million mind/body/spirit complexes repeating third density elsewhere.

(04-28-2018, 06:35 PM)xise Wrote: I think that the idea that the 'majority of their thoughts as kind and loving' can kind of be true, if we include in that definition all the subconscious thoughts and beliefs that are well underneath the surface. Many people don't begin to question the basic beliefs they were raised with and that mainstream society hold nor do most people dig deep into their subconscious. The vast majority of 'normal' societal or familial beliefs destroy our ability to experience oneness or polarize effectively.

Quote:46.9 Questioner: Certainly.

Ra: The entity polarizing positively perceives the anger. This entity, if using this catalyst mentally, blesses and loves this anger in itself. It then intensifies this anger consciously in mind alone until the folly of this red-ray energy is perceived not as folly in itself but as energy subject to spiritual entropy due to the randomness of energy being used.

Positive orientation then provides the will and faith to continue this mentally intense experience of letting the anger be understood, accepted, and integrated with the mind/body/spirit complex. The other-self which is the object of anger is thus transformed into an object of acceptance, understanding, and accommodation, all being reintegrated using the great energy which anger began.

The negatively oriented mind/body/spirit complex will use this anger in a similarly conscious fashion, refusing to accept the undirected or random energy of anger and instead, through will and faith, funneling this energy into a practical means of venting the negative aspect of this emotion so as to obtain control over other-self, or otherwise control the situation causing anger.

Control is the key to negatively polarized use of catalyst. Acceptance is the key to positively polarized use of catalyst. Between these polarities lies the potential for this random and undirected energy creating a bodily complex analog of what you call the cancerous growth of tissue.

(05-01-2018, 12:21 AM)Louisabell Wrote: So Ra is saying here that the amount of one's catalyst which has been understood, accepted and integrated into the self is to the degree that a person is polarizing positively. An interesting concept here is that work is done in the act of acceptance itself, the person/circumstance which is the cause of anger is transformed in the mind as a after-effect. So would that mean that you can polarize positively without any direct interaction with other-selves?

(04-29-2018, 07:35 PM)unity100 Wrote: One of the major reasons why harvest is low is probably that the logos of this solar system has chosen a rather physically weak body in order to foster positive polarity. This is the monkey body we inhabit.

(04-30-2018, 02:59 PM)johncarson698 Wrote: Ok, i guess you can say that at the root, its the "mind's" configuration that creates the polarities.  You can call this a philosophy or set of beliefs.  Thoughts, however, does not create polarity and is just a byproduct of the mind's configuration.

(04-30-2018, 02:59 PM)johncarson698 Wrote: The Ra material indicates positive/negative are energetic properties, where positive and negative are opposite to one another.  for example, there is a "negative time/space".

(05-01-2018, 09:25 AM)rva_jeremy Wrote:

(04-30-2018, 02:59 PM)johncarson698 Wrote: Ok, i guess you can say that at the root, its the "mind's" configuration that creates the polarities.  You can call this a philosophy or set of beliefs.  Thoughts, however, does not create polarity and is just a byproduct of the mind's configuration.

I'm curious about the distinction you're making between mind and thoughts. Is there some manner in which the mind would drive polarization that doesn't involve thoughts and thinking?

(05-01-2018, 09:25 AM)rva_jeremy Wrote: I have never understood how reality--space and time itself--can be polarized like that. Do they just mean a negative society/yellow ray matrix when they mention "negative time/space"?