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The next Octave - rinzler - 12-24-2019
So I think I finally figured this out. I put the pieces together.
From what I can tell after 4D you are slowly drifting towards one of two ultimate paths: Service-to-Nothing and Service-to-All. Which is basically just another fancy term for STO and STS but anyways.
STS-beings start in 4th Density to destroy people's lives, conquer planets. They are trying to create the perfect order. This goes on up to 5th density but then they start to destroy entire planets like the user adonai one told us. Then they move onto destroying or preventing suns and most fail there to manifest the oversoul so they switch to STO to continue their evolution.
I think beings that have achieved 7th density STS and beyond are completely beyond our understanding. They are part of the next octave but from what I can tell they are bound to destroy all that is.
So we know that there are 8th density guardians which are light-bringers. And we know that the opposite to that must be "light-takers"?
There is something killing of entire galaxies. Scientists call this tidal stripping of galaxies. Black holes are involved in it but they are not exactly sure.
I've always wondered about black holes. Aren't they a ultimate expression of STS? If that's true and there is one in each galaxy does that imply that STS is winning?
Mahakali (another user) described these entities as wanting to return to the primal chaos that existed before creation.
The Cassiopeans said beyond 4th densitiy STS-beings only exist as thoughtforms not whole entities. Basically a way of balancing creation. This is conflicting with the Ra material.
Does anyone know more about this?
What are your thoughts on this?
RE: The next Octave - Aion - 12-24-2019
There is no STS or STO beyond 6th Density, only Unity. The next octave isn't "beyond" the 7th density of this octave, it is a parallel iteration and so overlaps.
Black Holes are an expression of unity in time and space, and so appear destructive because they collapse time and space, but yet act as anchors for galaxies. However, there are 'roaming' black holes, which may be expressions of entities whom spent much time negatively polarized, yet you could equally see in it a desire to share in the unity of infinity.
There is, of course, the eternal tension between order and chaos, which gives rise to the material universe.
My understanding is that at the 'peak' of it, there is a gradual movement in to unity and the final unity is between two ultimate oversouls, one of light and one of darkness. I think all oversouls are extensions of these two in union. This is also where I believe where the image and symbol of God with a "right hand" angel and a "left hand" angel comes from in the archetypal mind.
RE: The next Octave - BridgesToLight - 12-24-2019
"Science," especially astrophysics, cannot even use their own scientific method to explain themselves.
I do not believe there is some "destructive" blackness eating the Universe.
There is nothing is the known (as of yet) Universe that is NOT in a cycle of evolution.
Thought, creation, growth, decay, death, thought, creation, growth....
Nothing known, from rocks and grains of sand, to man, planets, stars and entire galaxies there is nothing that is not within these cycles. Creation, growth, destruction, this is the way all grows within Creation.
Fear is an earth-based illusion. Always question anything that starts with putting you in a fear response, they are selling you something and the Truth/Reality does not need to be marketed. I only wish people had a more thorough understanding of the very real, and very concentrated ways that our world is being controlled through manufactured and exaggerated fears. Wars, disease, poverty, food supplies, household dirt, you name a problem and I can show you how fear was used to make us choose what are being shown to be horribly negative actions.
It was enlightening when I saw that our very atoms and the sun's energies behaved in the exact same way (I believe Ra mentions things about as above/below, within/without) with a "black hole" at their very cores.
The torsion fields on the sun, earth, other planets and the atoms/cells within our own bodies all have the very same electrical paths. As does the torsion field that surrounds our hearts, brains and bodies.
Quantum physics proves that whatever the researcher/scientist beliefs WILL be reflected in the results of his experiments/inventions/theories. I've since learned that this also controls channeling and other spiritual pursuits, the filters and beliefs ALWAYS change the outcomes/energies. There are NO pure filters in this world, including ourselves! So some scientist, or research team, buying into the very Judeo-Christian belief for Apocalypse and finalities (yet amusingly, believing themselves atheist in their scientific pursuits, as if that is possible) telling me there is some future disaster awaiting me effects me not at all.
Of course our planet, our sun, our existence is going to end someday. Everything known does. We are not separate, nor special from the rules of Creation.
So much love to you! Have peace that all is exactly as it should be and you are exactly where you are supposed to be right now.
RE: The next Octave - AnthroHeart - 12-24-2019
I know someone who's so hard core skeptic they won't even take the time to learn about the double-slit experiment where thoughts affect things.
Though they are me in another life, so I try not to judge them.
Of course, whether quantum really affects the macroscale is another thing.