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HCQ :The drug that is currently treating this VIRUS, HOW TO MAKE AT HOME - the - 04-14-2021
The drug that is currently treating this VIRUS…..watch below as I show you the recipe and how to make this solution at home,minus Big Pharmas fillers and preservatives.-
https://www.pfcchina.org/yinshi/38535.html
RE: HCQ :The drug that is currently treating this VIRUS, HOW TO MAKE AT HOME - Patrick - 04-14-2021
For those wishing to have more info on that interesting subject.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7091063/
RE: HCQ :The drug that is currently treating this VIRUS, HOW TO MAKE AT HOME - zedro - 04-14-2021
Careful with the homemade tonics using cinchona bark, too much is toxic
Although premade sources of quinine shouldn't be difficult to find
https://www.alcademics.com/2014/08/potential-dangers-of-homemade-tonic-water.html
RE: HCQ :The drug that is currently treating this VIRUS, HOW TO MAKE AT HOME - confusedseeker - 04-15-2021
Thanks!
RE: HCQ :The drug that is currently treating this VIRUS, HOW TO MAKE AT HOME - canada_dry - 04-15-2021
Also let's not forget Ivermectin which I believe has shown better efficacy at treating covid than HCQ. Here is a one pager on the evidence:
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/One-Page-Summary-of-the-Clinical-Trials-Evidence-for-Ivermectin-in-COVID-19.pdf
Longer version here: https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Ivermectin-in-the-prophylaxis-and-treatment-of-COVID-19.pdf
Here is how to get Ivermectin:
https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/how-to-get-ivermectin/
https://www.exstnc.com/ (shows doctors who prescribe HCQ too)
RE: HCQ :The drug that is currently treating this VIRUS, HOW TO MAKE AT HOME - canada_dry - 04-15-2021
There was a study comparing Ivermectin and HCQ treatments (quote taken from https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Ivermectin-in-the-prophylaxis-and-treatment-of-COVID-19.pdf):
"The largest RCT (random controlled trial) in hospitalized patients was performed concurrent with the prophylaxis study
reviewed above by Elgazzar et al (Elgazzar et al., 2020). 400 patients were randomized amongst 4
treatment groups of 100 patients each. Groups 1 and 2 included mild/moderate illness patients only,
with Group 1 treated with one dose 0.4mg/kg ivermectin plus standard of care (SOC) and Group 2
received hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) 400mg twice on day 1 then 200mg twice daily for 5 days plus
standard of care. There was a statistically significant lower rate of progression in the ivermectin
treated group (1% vs. 22%, p<.001) with no deaths and 4 deaths respectively.
Groups 3 and 4 all included only severely ill patients, with group 3 again treated with single dose of 0.4mg/kg plus SOC
while Group 4 received HCQ plus SOC. In this severely ill subgroup, the differences in outcomes
were even larger, with lower rates of progression 4% vs. 30%, and mortality 2% vs 20% (p<.001). "
RE: HCQ :The drug that is currently treating this VIRUS, HOW TO MAKE AT HOME - zedro - 04-15-2021
Ivermectin is a steroid right? Is there a natural analogous source, like how quinine is the basis of HCQ? I think if you can stay away from the synthetics, all the better.
RE: HCQ :The drug that is currently treating this VIRUS, HOW TO MAKE AT HOME - canada_dry - 04-16-2021
(04-15-2021, 09:59 PM)zedro Wrote: Ivermectin is a steroid right? Is there a natural analogous source, like how quinine is the basis of HCQ? I think if you can stay away from the synthetics, all the better.
It's not a steroid, it's an anti-parasite drug. "The safety, availability, and cost of ivermectin is nearly unparalleled given its near nil drug
interactions along with only mild and rare side effects observed in almost 40 years of use and
billions of doses administered (Kircik et al., 2016)." Its discoverers won the Nobel prize in medicine because they discovered Ivermectin.
Safety of Ivermectin
Numerous studies report low rates of adverse events, with the majority mild, transient, and largely
attributed to the body’s inflammatory response to the death of the parasites and include itching, rash,
swollen lymph nodes, joint paints, fever and headache (Kircik et al., 2016). In a study which combined
results from trials including over 50,000 patients, serious events occurred in less than 1% and largely
associated with administration in Loa loa [parasitic eye worm] (Gardon et al., 1997). Further, according to the pharmaceutical reference standard Lexicomp, the only medications contraindicated for use with ivermectin
are the concurrent administration of anti-tuberculosis and cholera vaccines while the anticoagulant
warfarin would require dose monitoring. Another special caution is that immunosuppressed or organ
transplant patients who are on calcineurin inhibitors such as tacrolimus or cyclosporine or the
immunosuppressant sirolimus should have close monitoring of drug levels when on ivermectin given
that interactions exist which can affect these levels. A longer list of drug interactions can be found on
the drugs.com database, with nearly all interactions leading to a possibility of either increased or
decreased blood levels of ivermectin. Given studies showing tolerance and lack of adverse effects in
human subjects given escalating high doses of ivermectin, toxicity is unlikely although a reduced
efficacy due to decreased levels may be a concern (Guzzo et al., 2002).
Concerns of safety in the setting of liver disease are unfounded given that, to our knowledge,
only two cases of liver injury have ever been reported in association with ivermectin, with both cases
rapidly resolved without need for treatment. (Sparsa et al., 2006;Veit et al., 2006). Further, no dose
adjustments are required in patients with liver disease. Some have described ivermectin as potentially
neurotoxic, yet one study performed a search of a global pharmaceutical database and found only 28
cases of serious neurological adverse events such as ataxia, altered consciousness, seizure, or tremor
(Chandler, 2018). Potential explanations included the effects of concomitantly administered drugs
which increase absorption past the blood brain barrier or polymorphisms in the mdr-1 gene. However,
the total number of reported cases suggests that such events are rare. Finally, ivermectin has been used
safely in pregnant women, children, and infants.
Review of the Emerging Evidence Supporting the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COV
RE: HCQ :The drug that is currently treating this VIRUS, HOW TO MAKE AT HOME - zedro - 04-16-2021
Ah ok it's apparently administered with corticosteroid sometimes, which is a steroid that reduces inflammation and immune response, that's what I was probably half remembering.
RE: HCQ :The drug that is currently treating this VIRUS, HOW TO MAKE AT HOME - EvolvingPhoenix - 04-16-2021
Ivermectin good. Homemade snake oil bad. This post is irresponsible and dangerous methinks.
RE: HCQ :The drug that is currently treating this VIRUS, HOW TO MAKE AT HOME - canada_dry - 04-17-2021
(04-16-2021, 05:29 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: Ivermectin good. Homemade snake oil bad. This post is irresponsible and dangerous methinks.
Cinchona bark has been used to treat fevers for hundreds if not thousands of years in South America. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinchona#History
HCQ has gotten a bad rap because of the huge censorship campaign last year after Trump mentioned it. I remember when I couldn't even type HCQ on twitter or my post would be blocked. Youtube and Facebook were similar. Truly dystopian.
Apparently HCQ works by helping zinc get into the cells where it inhibits viral replication. So taking HCQ without zinc is not that helpful. There are other things you can take to help zinc get into cells, such as turmeric and flavonoids such as quercetin. So maybe HCQ/quinine is not unique in its ability to treat covid, but to say it's dangerous or snake oil is going too far.
RE: HCQ :The drug that is currently treating this VIRUS, HOW TO MAKE AT HOME - Diana - 04-17-2021
(04-17-2021, 01:59 PM)canada_dry Wrote: Cinchona bark has been used to treat fevers for hundreds if not thousands of years in South America. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinchona#History
HQC and quinine are apparently different:
"Hydroxychloroquine is a synthetic drug while quinine is a naturally occurring compound found in cinchona bark."
So as canada_dry says, the efficacy of quinine itself as a therapy is something with a long history. I have a friend who has a construction safety business, and he told me that he recommends quinine to lower body temperature for summer workers here in the desert when it gets really hot—typically over 100 degrees up to over 120. Which makes sense since it is used to bring down fevers.
RE: HCQ :The drug that is currently treating this VIRUS, HOW TO MAKE AT HOME - canada_dry - 04-17-2021
(04-17-2021, 02:14 PM)Diana Wrote:(04-17-2021, 01:59 PM)canada_dry Wrote: Cinchona bark has been used to treat fevers for hundreds if not thousands of years in South America. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinchona#History
HQC and quinine are apparently different:
"Hydroxychloroquine is a synthetic drug while quinine is a naturally occurring compound found in cinchona bark."
So as canada_dry says, the efficacy of quinine itself as a therapy is something with a long history. I have a friend who has a construction safety business, and he told me that he recommends quinine to lower body temperature for summer workers here in the desert when it gets really hot—typically over 100 degrees up to over 120. Which makes sense since it is used to bring down fevers.
Yes, they are different. The main difference I found was the half-life length. Quinine's half-life is only 11-18 hours, whereas HCQ half-life is 40-50 DAYS. Big difference. If taking HCQ, you definitely want to get the dosage right as it will be in your body for a long time.
RE: HCQ :The drug that is currently treating this VIRUS, HOW TO MAKE AT HOME - confusedseeker - 04-20-2021
The media/big tech literally killed tons of people by censoring HCQ. Lots of doctors using it the past year. Totally political.
RE: HCQ :The drug that is currently treating this VIRUS, HOW TO MAKE AT HOME - LeafieGreens - 04-20-2021
I don’t want to ruffle too many feathers here, but please use your discernment in all things. Especially regarding things one may put into their body.
There is a lot of incorrect, invalid, and harmful information out there.
RE: HCQ :The drug that is currently treating this VIRUS, HOW TO MAKE AT HOME - Ymarsakar - 04-20-2021
The easiest way to use discernment here is to compare how much heart centered power is being used vs those in positions of human authority and how much the heart power is centered there.
That doesn't mean people will be right or wrong, it just means that one faction will have more heart power behind their actions. And that is a very easy thing to discern, if you are using your heart and not your head.
RE: HCQ :The drug that is currently treating this VIRUS, HOW TO MAKE AT HOME - Diana - 04-20-2021
(04-20-2021, 06:45 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: The easiest way to use discernment here is to compare how much heart centered power is being used vs those in positions of human authority and how much the heart power is centered there.
That doesn't mean people will be right or wrong, it just means that one faction will have more heart power behind their actions. And that is a very easy thing to discern, if you are using your heart and not your head.
In addition to discerning how heart centered something is, I have to add that using one's head can be efficacious. Logic alone will sometimes be enough to say no to this or that. And also, there is the idea that one gets in touch with one's body. In order to do this, there needs to be a clear connection between mind and body, and if the body is polluted with junk food, say, then the body is overworking all the time to deal with it, and so the connection between mind and body is nonexistent or greatly distorted.
RE: HCQ :The drug that is currently treating this VIRUS, HOW TO MAKE AT HOME - Ymarsakar - 04-20-2021
There are many minds in the human body. Specifically lower and upper dantien. The nerve clusters at the base of spine vs the brain stem.
RE: HCQ :The drug that is currently treating this VIRUS, HOW TO MAKE AT HOME - confusedseeker - 04-20-2021
Why is it so hard to have HCQ or Ivermectin? I'd like to have some in my medicine cabinet just in case? It's ridiculous that it's so hard to get.