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Doing and Being: Sides of the Coin of Evolution - MisterRabbit - 03-21-2009 In today's saturday chat, I mentioned to Carla about Q'uo's response to the first question in the most recent Light/Lines newsletter. Discussion of this topic led me to think it worthy of threaditude. Here is a link to the transcript. It's the first question, so no effort finding it: http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&attid=0.1&thid=120164c61971de0b&mt=application%2Fpdf The most essential passages to me are... Quote:We wish to thank the one known as G for this You see, I am basically a passive-reductive seeker, pretty Toaist-Buddhisty, while I feel that the general vibe of this webpage is active-inclusive, since the confederation sources primarily lean in that direction. At the same time, I feel a strong resonance with everyone here and was drawn myself to the confederation sources, primarily by those of Ra. This may be due to Ra’s being a 6D type message, where such dualities as this one are no more. Regardless, I feel that we all must work to balance whatever our current disposition is by the opposite. For instance my rather yin passive-reductive emphasis gives me the advantages of that path, but I feel myself being drawn to the other side of the spectrum. Likewise, some here who are probably more active-inclusively oriented have expressed that they feel a need to do a greater degree of “inner work”, which I take to probably mean getting more into the passive-reductive side. I also feel that it is more than just the difference between Being and Doing, But that it is an essential difference in approach to evolution. While the passive-reductive path goes towards zero, the active-inclusive goes towards infinity, but oddly enough, they both end up at the same place, because it turns out that zero is infinity. Or, as I like to put it, 0 = ∞ = 1 And, oddly enough, 1 > 2 So, I’d like to hear what everyone’s experience and opinion of this interesting subject is. RE: Doing and Being: Sides of the Coin of Evolution - 3D Sunset - 03-22-2009 Hello Rabbit, good fellow! In researching a post for another thread, I came across the follow quote, which I think is pertinent to your topic. Ra Book 2, Session 49 Wrote:Questioner: What process would be the recommended process for correctly awakening the kundalini and of what value would that be? It would seem to me that Ra describes here both the reductive and the inclusive methods in describing how we deal with the up-growing (in your terms "doing") and down-flowing ("being") energies. As for me, I use different meditation techniques to accomplish both goals, although I probably have a slight bias toward the down flowing or "being" type. Good subject! 3D Sunset RE: Doing and Being: Sides of the Coin of Evolution - airwaves - 03-24-2009 I am in an unusually good mood today. By unusual I mean more so than usual and man I LOL'ed REALLY hard when I seen: "Or, as I like to put it, 0 = ∞ = 1 And, oddly enough, 1 > 2" Wish I could show it to my college Algebra prof. LOL anyway peace and love friends RE: Doing and Being: Sides of the Coin of Evolution - MisterRabbit - 03-29-2009 Yeah, 3D, you're right I think that is what Ra is saying. Which falls perfectly in line with what Q'uo said in the transcript I linked above, which is that the two paths only appear different but really aren't. I also have a similar bias as the one you describe yourself having, but do find myself sometimes drawn to expansion. In fact, there was a guided yogic meditation I read from the Aaron transcripts about walking out onto a beach and going out into the water and floating on it and gradually focusing on the sunlight, the water, the air you're breathing, and asking "where does the air around you and the air in your lungs begin and end? Where is the boundary?" and doing the same thing for the water and sunlight, and sort of causing a feeling of expansion, and that actually was really great for me, even though I'm pretty strongly reductive in my normal practice. And I'm glad you got a kick out of it, airwaves. I find it humorous as well, but also true. Don't they say when one becomes enlightened, the first natural response is laughter? RE: Doing and Being: Sides of the Coin of Evolution - Quantum - 03-29-2009 (03-21-2009, 05:57 PM)MisterRabbit Wrote: You see, I am basically a passive-reductive seeker, pretty Toaist-Buddhisty, while I feel that the general vibe of this webpage is active-inclusive, since the confederation sources primarily lean in that direction. Tremendous post MisterRabbit. Much to consider. Given the two paths of the Western 'active-inclusive' vs Eastern 'passive-reductive', and that you are more inclined to the "Toaisty-Buddhisty" passive-reductive seeking, I am reminded of the fact that all is resolved through "The Middle Path", which is oddly in fact a Buddhisty resolution of both, or as described through an Ouspenskian/Gordjieffian 4th Way of Thinking, this by by both authors/teachers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.I._Gurdjieff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._D._Ouspensky But nothing to date seems as resolvingly resonnate than do the Ra Teachings, Q RE: Doing and Being: Sides of the Coin of Evolution - fairyfarmgirl - 03-29-2009 I hail from a shamanic path. It uses both passive reductive and active doing to reach a place of inner peace and open heart and crown and feet... being a clear and flowing channel of light. RA is by far the most conclusive of all the methods... fairyfarmgirl RE: Doing and Being: Sides of the Coin of Evolution - MisterRabbit - 07-23-2009 Hmm I would like to get into shamanism. It's unfortunate that most things like workshops etc. cost money that I don't have, and travel that I don't have time for. Either that, or just going and completely giving up everything and being initiated into an altogether different life. That is sometimes appealing. But I'm still playing the game, I guess. RE: Doing and Being: Sides of the Coin of Evolution - fairyfarmgirl - 07-23-2009 (07-23-2009, 02:18 PM)MisterRabbit Wrote: Hmm I would like to get into shamanism. It's unfortunate that most things like workshops etc. cost money that I don't have, and travel that I don't have time for. Either that, or just going and completely giving up everything and being initiated into an altogether different life. That is sometimes appealing. But I'm still playing the game, I guess. I am Spirit taught. I did not travel anywhere (physically at least) to learn anything. Every physical lesson I learned--- guided practice, the opportunity presented itself to me when I was ready to practice and hone my skills... If I did travel--- The trip was not to learn "shamanism" but to explore this country we live in... and then I would just meet up with those of like-mindedness... sometimes they came to me. If you are truly interested in a neo-pagan (shamanism, paganism, wicca, green witch, Huna etc.) then I would suggest hooking up with the nearest metaphysical store or a UU church (we like all paths of light) or join a local pagan/shamanism forum in your area. Then begin just being friendly. To make friends you must be friendly. Water always seeks its own level. A great way to become acquainted with shamanism is to attend a sweatlodge, go to a Rennaissance faire, or attend a local pagan circle on the Sabbats or Esbats. Humbly ask and a teacher will come to you. They/it will not if you do not. Teachers can be in the physical, non-physical, spirit, or in forms of books, pdf files, websites, forums, etc. fairyfarmgirl RE: Doing and Being: Sides of the Coin of Evolution - MisterRabbit - 07-23-2009 Hmm can't say I'm much one for being able to see discarnate entities, but I'll take your advice into consideration. RE: Doing and Being: Sides of the Coin of Evolution - Sirius - 07-24-2009 (07-23-2009, 06:37 PM)MisterRabbit Wrote: Hmm can't say I'm much one for being able to see discarnate entities, but I'll take your advice into consideration. You don't have to see them. Just communicate with them in whatever way you are most comfortable with If you are looking to add Activicy into your Pacifism, Spirits are the best way to do it. Personal opinion!! I would say i was a bit more active that I could keep up with, it is these days I tend to be a lot more passive, or try Love and Light, |