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Touched - Alien Abduction Phenomenon - Focus123 - 02-10-2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkwTG2qGsg0
RE: Touched - Alien Abduction Phenomenon - Ens Entium - 02-12-2011
Interesting to see the type of comments this gets on youtube...
Why is it that thought-form entities can have such,,, physical effects on the abductees? I assume that in the positive experiences it's nearly always thought forms that visit.
Interesting to see the type of comments this gets on youtube...
Why is it that thought-form entities can have such,,, physical effects on the abductees? I assume that in the positive experiences it's nearly always thought forms that visit.
RE: Touched - Alien Abduction Phenomenon - Crown - 02-13-2011
I think these people somehow uncounciously "needed" these experiences to happen to them and they attracted these kind of contacts to them. I dont like how they portray everything in negativity.
RE: Touched - Alien Abduction Phenomenon - kycahi - 02-13-2011
I just viewed Part 2 of 8 and will keep going. My first thought is that the lady Karin is a Wanderer who has so much light that she attracted the Orion influence. If they thought they could dissuade her or change her polarity, their approach was very wrong, IMHO.
RE: Touched - Alien Abduction Phenomenon - Ens Entium - 02-13-2011
(02-13-2011, 12:09 PM)Crown Wrote: I think these people somehow uncounciously "needed" these experiences to happen to them and they attracted these kind of contacts to them. I dont like how they portray everything in negativity.
I just had the thought that there are those who 'require' these experiences in some way, as Crown said. This may be for many reasons, i'm leaning towards it being a requirement of catalyst in that form, like a need for intrusion to balamce the naivete or 'virginity' in the range of experiences that someone has. To allow them to integrate such experiences or to expand the range of things they're willing to consider. Or.. Orion entities wishing to extinguish bright lights...
Btw, if this is Orion visitation, the negative portrayal is just playing into their strategy, which is sad.
But yeah, it seems this need for the balancing in these people's consciousness/experiences i just refered to presents an extra opportunity for Orion influence, aside from that already required to balance positive intervention and that which is called for.
What you think?
(02-13-2011, 02:15 PM)kycahi Wrote: I just viewed Part 2 of 8 and will keep going. My first thought is that the lady Karin is a Wanderer who has so much light that she attracted the Orion influence. If they thought they could dissuade her or change her polarity, their approach was very wrong, IMHO.
I dont think i'm gonna watch all the way to the end, keep us posted if something particularly interesting comes up
RE: Touched - Alien Abduction Phenomenon - Focus123 - 02-13-2011
Quote:I dont think i'm gonna watch all the way to the end, keep us posted if something particularly interesting comes up
Only if you think that Karin has 4 hybrid children is interesting.
RE: Touched - Alien Abduction Phenomenon - Ens Entium - 02-13-2011
(01-07-2011, 10:41 AM)Namaste Wrote: More scientific data/opinion confirming the Ra Material.
Video - click here
Around 32 minutes one of the presenters covers the devastation. A high ratio of a product of fission present in the atmosphere.
(02-13-2011, 06:24 PM)Focus123 Wrote:Quote:I dont think i'm gonna watch all the way to the end, keep us posted if something particularly interesting comes up
Only if you think that Karin has 4 hybrid children is interesting.
And have they been for genetic testing? Something radically different revealed by such testing would be it. I'll look more into it though, thanks for the kick, hehe
RE: Touched - Alien Abduction Phenomenon - Focus123 - 02-13-2011
Quote:And have they been for genetic testing?
No, they all surrounded here and put there hands on her and she felt great Love.
RE: Touched - Alien Abduction Phenomenon - Ens Entium - 02-15-2011
(02-13-2011, 07:11 PM)Focus123 Wrote:Quote:And have they been for genetic testing?
No, they all surrounded here and put there hands on her and she felt great Love.
This makes me wonder what the other characteristics of hybrid children would be... Her feeling great Love after they put their hands on her does not make it definite of you know what i mean..
I would expect her to mention something about extreme intelligence, characteristics close to that of dual-activated persons.
Actually, this brings up an interesting question of just how alike a hybrid and a dual activated person would be, dont you think?
RE: Touched - Alien Abduction Phenomenon - Focus123 - 02-16-2011
Quote:This makes me wonder what the other characteristics of hybrid children would be... Her feeling great Love after they put their hands on her does not make it definite of you know what i mean..
I would expect her to mention something about extreme intelligence, characteristics close to that of dual-activated persons.
Actually, this brings up an interesting question of just how alike a hybrid and a dual activated person would be, dont you think?
If this is true that there is a hybrid program-and the 4 most active researchers all seem to agree on this point- then there are many of questions. How advanced these beings are would be a very important one. But also what is the purpose of these hybrids? Where are they now? How many are there ? Are they STS or STO. What are the implications, if any, for this planets evolution?
RE: Touched - Alien Abduction Phenomenon - unity100 - 02-16-2011
(02-16-2011, 08:15 AM)Focus123 Wrote: If this is true that there is a hybrid program-and the 4 most active researchers all seem to agree on this point-
who are these 4 most active researchers ?
RE: Touched - Alien Abduction Phenomenon - Focus123 - 02-16-2011
Raymond Fowler, John Mack, Bud Hopkins and David Jacobs.
RE: Touched - Alien Abduction Phenomenon - Focus123 - 02-16-2011
Mack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz5RSAfwxGw&feature=BF&list=PL0E307DC4CEAC00EE&index=1
Jacobs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2r_5IFnGkU
Hopkins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLxst7mrpFY
Fowler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U3_ZJgwmec&feature=BF&list=PLAA5CCEB7EF7A1BFE&index=1
RE: Touched - Alien Abduction Phenomenon - Focus123 - 02-16-2011
Some Q&A from Jacobs website:
http://www.ufoabduction.com/faq1.htm
Jacobs on Alien Agenda:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hc37Zf1oyU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y7lS4aEasQ&feature=related
RE: Touched - Alien Abduction Phenomenon - unity100 - 02-17-2011
(02-16-2011, 09:19 AM)Focus123 Wrote: Raymond Fowler, John Mack, Bud Hopkins and David Jacobs.
why are these people reliable ?
RE: Touched - Alien Abduction Phenomenon - Focus123 - 02-17-2011
Quote:why are these people reliable ?
Experience. Did you watch the video's?
RE: Touched - Alien Abduction Phenomenon - zenmaster - 02-17-2011
(02-17-2011, 09:41 AM)unity100 Wrote:They're as reliable as any available. That said, they're investigating nebulous phenomena. Many times the only memories available for examination are emotional or metaphorical. Of course that doesn't necessarily make the explanations 'false', just very limited. Actually, I think 4D mind - intentions, life conditions, etc, when experienced by the ontologically separate 3D mind-set, does have a 'dreamy' quality. From our 3D perspective, I imagine 4D inherently working with more subtle levels of being, such as Plato described with 'forms'. So we often come down to an 'interpretation of dreams' when searching for acceptable explanations to the phenomena.(02-16-2011, 09:19 AM)Focus123 Wrote: Raymond Fowler, John Mack, Bud Hopkins and David Jacobs.
why are these people reliable ?
RE: Touched - Alien Abduction Phenomenon - unity100 - 02-17-2011
i dont think a bunch of people agreeing on something makes them reliable. regardless of their experience. a lot of theologians also agree on a lot of things. that doesnt make anything they say possible.
RE: Touched - Alien Abduction Phenomenon - Focus123 - 02-17-2011
Quote:i dont think a bunch of people agreeing on something makes them reliable. regardless of their experience.
What makes a group reliable? Someone could come on this forum and say what makes the Law of One reliable . They might point out that Don was crazy and shot himself in the head. And that Carla thinks she had a operation where someone manufactured a kidney out of thin air and replaced it without being in a hospital. What makes channeling reliable? If your experiences don't count for anything then perhaps we are all delusional.
RE: Touched - Alien Abduction Phenomenon - Ens Entium - 02-19-2011
Well, thanks for the videos Focus123..
RE: Touched - Alien Abduction Phenomenon - Izzy - 02-19-2011
For I have seen aircraft that are not of this earth I believe in Alien beings. I havent been abducted but do I discount it ? No. Do I believe? I'm not sure but since I have seen craft it is possible. So I put this in my mind and keep it open to what might be. I dont laugh at anyone that has a story, I listen then ask questions that might help me understand. Some one has to investage these claims, some are trying to find answers and some are there for a buck or disinformation.And according To Ra all is catalyst for us to learn/teach.
May we all rejoice in the light and love of the One Creator for we can not live in the dark.
RE: Touched - Alien Abduction Phenomenon - Aaron - 02-23-2011
(02-17-2011, 06:52 PM)Focus123 Wrote:Quote:i dont think a bunch of people agreeing on something makes them reliable. regardless of their experience.
What makes a group reliable? Someone could come on this forum and say what makes the Law of One reliable . They might point out that Don was crazy and shot himself in the head. And that Carla thinks she had a operation where someone manufactured a kidney out of thin air and replaced it without being in a hospital. What makes channeling reliable? If your experiences don't count for anything then perhaps we are all delusional.
I think you're highlighting the fact here that reliability of that which can't be proven to the senses is subjective. If we're talking about channeling and other such metaphysical fields, then reliability has to be measured by personal resonance and personal verification.
So, unity100 doesn't think these four researchers are reliable. Why? Is it because they research the metaphysical which can't be proven? Or is it because they don't personally resonate? A combination of both? I'm not vouching for their reliability or lack thereof either way.
Also, you seem to associate Don's troubles and Carla's claims with something that someone could use to question the reliability of the material. But would it be a jump to conclusion to think that because of tremendous difficulties or extraordinary claims that the material was possibly influenced?
RE: Touched - Alien Abduction Phenomenon - Focus123 - 02-23-2011
Quote: If we're talking about channeling and other such metaphysical fields, then reliability has to be measured by personal resonance and personal verification.
Correct.
Quote:So, unity100 doesn't think these four researchers are reliable. Why? Is it because they research the metaphysical which can't be proven? Or is it because they don't personally resonate? A combination of both? I'm not vouching for their reliability or lack thereof either way.
Understandable.
Quote:Also, you seem to associate Don's troubles and Carla's claims with something that someone could use to question the reliability of the material. But would it be a jump to conclusion to think that because of tremendous difficulties or extraordinary claims that the material was possibly influenced?
Absolutely, I would just say that channeling and hypnosis are both of the Metaphysical.
Since I have had experiences regarding this phenomena(alien contact) I am trying to keep and open mind. The real question is how much distortion do you get with hypnosis? How reliable is it- any less/more than channeling?
RE: Touched - Alien Abduction Phenomenon - Aaron - 02-25-2011
Focus123 Wrote:Absolutely, I would just say that channeling and hypnosis are both of the Metaphysical.
Since I have had experiences regarding this phenomena(alien contact) I am trying to keep and open mind. The real question is how much distortion do you get with hypnosis? How reliable is it- any less/more than channeling?
I hate to possibly derail the thread, but I'll comment!
I would think that hypnosis probably has less of a possibility for distortion overall because it's a working of self on the self. There's no other entity involved, just you and your subconscious. But then again, at its best, it's not really any more of a sound source of information than dreams are.But then again, the information presented by hypnosis or dreams is only of use to the one hypnotized or dreaming, whereas channeled information can be of use to all.