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bridging the gap between Orion and Ra - neutral333 - 06-28-2011
In the book there seems to be a huge rift between the Orion group and that of Ra.
At the same time, they are both advanced enough to know their connectedness and oneness.
This is a dichotomy that I would like to see more discussion on.
Do certain members of the Orion group eventually shift polarity over to service to others?
Will these two groups eventually merge and, if so, what would that involve?
What happens to light when it is successfully extinguished by service to self polarity?
Does the One Infinite Creator experience joy from the Orion group when they are successful? Or maybe it is just interesting to have dynamic forces in creation.
Thoughts?
RE: bridging the gap between Orion and Ra - Unbound - 06-28-2011
This is a thought I have wrangled with myself ever since encountering the teachings. I also naturally at first had the suspicion that Ra itself was in fact an Orion entity in imposition, but I have since rested that.
I'd like to see some more read answers before making any comments, since I do not really know where to start with these questions.
RE: bridging the gap between Orion and Ra - Zygra - 06-28-2011
There is no love without a good fight
Oh what would I do without my rivals ? Someone to measure my self with and against. Not a lot of fun would come out of it. It would feel empty...
RE: bridging the gap between Orion and Ra - unity100 - 06-28-2011
there is no gap to bridge in between them. orion group, is not as advanced enough to see the unison of existence. that happens in early 6d. even at that point, entities switching to positive 6d will have troubles reconciling their newly found perspective with their behavior, and would stray into controlling others, but this time in the sake of unity.
i think they asymptotically would approximate proper 6d positive as the density progresses. but, that would take aeons, compared to our timeline.
RE: bridging the gap between Orion and Ra - kycahi - 06-28-2011
(06-28-2011, 02:32 AM)neutral333 Wrote: In the book there seems to be a huge rift between the Orion group and that of Ra.
At the same time, they are both advanced enough to know their connectedness and oneness.
This is a dichotomy that I would like to see more discussion on.
Do certain members of the Orion group eventually shift polarity over to service to others?
Will these two groups eventually merge and, if so, what would that involve?
What happens to light when it is successfully extinguished by service to self polarity?
Does the One Infinite Creator experience joy from the Orion group when they are successful? Or maybe it is just interesting to have dynamic forces in creation.
Thoughts?
I suppose the OG loses members all the time, but gains new ones too. Regarding a merger, that implies that the OG as a body will vote to switch to STO. If they did, they probably would be glad for assistance from the Ra folk to get things right. We have postulated elsewhere that when in time/space between lives, we chat with our "enemies," people who have been troublesome to us in these lives e.g. in-laws, bosses, ex-spouses.
So maybe on some level folks like Ra and the OG do have conversations. I think of the bonus features on DVDs where the actors that played foes in the movie chat with each other about their characters and performances.
The One experiences joy, I would say, through the OG, Ra and each of us experiencing joy. I don't have the brain power to conceive of what the One might experience in/of itself. Many/most Christians perceive "God" as a grandfather figure who is not much different from us except having created us and listening to our prayers. My dear neighbor lady wonders, "How can God let sweet little children be molested and killed?" for example. We know that the infinite One is too magnificent to comprehend.
I depend on the One to be at the top of a hierarchy with me at the bottom and my higher self next in line. Above HS is a mystery that might be worth discussing, but personally I feel it having no relevance. I just want it to make sense and be reliable.
As I reread the above, it looks like I'm in a cranky mood, and I think that I actually am--the coffee isn't doing its usual job. Sorry about that.
RE: bridging the gap between Orion and Ra - NegaNova - 06-29-2011
(06-28-2011, 11:12 AM)kycahi Wrote:(06-28-2011, 02:32 AM)neutral333 Wrote: In the book there seems to be a huge rift between the Orion group and that of Ra.
At the same time, they are both advanced enough to know their connectedness and oneness.
This is a dichotomy that I would like to see more discussion on.
Do certain members of the Orion group eventually shift polarity over to service to others?
Will these two groups eventually merge and, if so, what would that involve?
What happens to light when it is successfully extinguished by service to self polarity?
Does the One Infinite Creator experience joy from the Orion group when they are successful? Or maybe it is just interesting to have dynamic forces in creation.
Thoughts?
I suppose the OG loses members all the time, but gains new ones too. Regarding a merger, that implies that the OG as a body will vote to switch to STO. If they did, they probably would be glad for assistance from the Ra folk to get things right. We have postulated elsewhere that when in time/space between lives, we chat with our "enemies," people who have been troublesome to us in these lives e.g. in-laws, bosses, ex-spouses.
So maybe on some level folks like Ra and the OG do have conversations. I think of the bonus features on DVDs where the actors that played foes in the movie chat with each other about their characters and performances.
The One experiences joy, I would say, through the OG, Ra and each of us experiencing joy. I don't have the brain power to conceive of what the One might experience in/of itself. Many/most Christians perceive "God" as a grandfather figure who is not much different from us except having created us and listening to our prayers. My dear neighbor lady wonders, "How can God let sweet little children be molested and killed?" for example. We know that the infinite One is too magnificent to comprehend.
I depend on the One to be at the top of a hierarchy with me at the bottom and my higher self next in line. Above HS is a mystery that might be worth discussing, but personally I feel it having no relevance. I just want it to make sense and be reliable.
As I reread the above, it looks like I'm in a cranky mood, and I think that I actually am--the coffee isn't doing its usual job. Sorry about that.
Ahahaa, I don't think you sound cranky! I like what you said actually.
But in response to the question about what would happen if the STS were able to extuinguish light...
Hypothetically speaking, if the STS distinguished all the light... it seems to me that they would lose purpose. The STS gains power by putting out the light, and is motivated by this idea of putting it out. But if there was truly no longer light to be put out... I don't know. It seems like the STS would become dull.
It's like, "Okay I've taken over the universe. I am the one in control now, and I have experienced everyway in which to feel powerful and dominate. Now what's there to do?"
RE: bridging the gap between Orion and Ra - Joseph326 - 07-09-2011
It might be helpful to consider that the polarities of light/dark and what we call STO/STS are codependent. Each depends on the other as validation for the definition of itself. One loses polarity when its opposite is weakened. The ideal creative situation would have both polarities balanced enough so that they can both increase in intensity as they push against one another. For a sixth density entity seeking unification, such as Ra, they would eventually reach a point in which they actually become BOTH and each exists within them. Then there would need to be balancing within the entity (picture there being both dark and light individuals within the complex at this point with each reaching equal proportions of service). I dont remember the quotes, but I do remember reading that there were a few STS entities that were a part of the planetary consciousness of Venus. I wonder if they would be integrated into the social memory complex at some point?
RE: bridging the gap between Orion and Ra - Confused - 07-10-2011
(06-28-2011, 02:32 AM)neutral333 Wrote: Does the One Infinite Creator experience joy from the Orion group when they are successful?
When two siblings fight, it is difficult for a parent to take sides. But the parent will most probably celebrate the victory with the victor while grieving the loss with the vanquished.
We are clueless in many ways.
RE: bridging the gap between Orion and Ra - Raman - 07-10-2011
Hey Confused, I missed you my friend! Doing Ok?
RE: bridging the gap between Orion and Ra - Confused - 07-10-2011
Hi, Raman. Thanks, dear friend. Yes, doing great. Never felt so good in a long time in a way. Hope you are having a good time too.
(07-10-2011, 04:35 PM)Raman Wrote: Hey Confused, I missed you my friend! Doing Ok?
RE: bridging the gap between Orion and Ra - Wander-Man - 07-14-2011
I think if we in 3D can see the unison of things, they can too. Not to the degree of a 6D maybe, but still. Obviously, being in a higher density, they're more intelligent than any of us can possibly be.
Maybe it's like how we're smarter than our pet cat. Our cat might hate us for taking away its kittens, but we know they'll be better off in another home where there's more space, love, and attention. The cat doesn't think about this. We're just doing what we think is best.
And they can learn, advance, without strictly following the Law of One. Maybe they're controlling for the sake of unity already. Build a galactic empire that exemplifies all of the awesome power of the One Infinite Creator? An extremely organized force, a machine of souls, capable of accomplishing anything, with each person contributing and being responsible for being one of the greatest forces in the universe... It's like they're creating God, or building a tribute. I can see that.
Quote:there is no gap to bridge in between them. orion group, is not as advanced enough to see the unison of existence. that happens in early 6d. even at that point, entities switching to positive 6d will have troubles reconciling their newly found perspective with their behavior, and would stray into controlling others, but this time in the sake of unity.
i think they asymptotically would approximate proper 6d positive as the density progresses. but, that would take aeons, compared to our timeline.
RE: bridging the gap between Orion and Ra - 3DMonkey - 07-14-2011
(06-28-2011, 02:32 AM)neutral333 Wrote: In the book there seems to be a huge rift between the Orion group and that of Ra.Thoughts indeed
At the same time, they are both advanced enough to know their connectedness and oneness.
This is a dichotomy that I would like to see more discussion on.
Do certain members of the Orion group eventually shift polarity over to service to others?
Will these two groups eventually merge and, if so, what would that involve?
What happens to light when it is successfully extinguished by service to self polarity?
Does the One Infinite Creator experience joy from the Orion group when they are successful? Or maybe it is just interesting to have dynamic forces in creation.
Thoughts?
I like to think of the dynamics as a simple thought in someone's mind. A choice being contemplated. 'Should I wear sandals or shoes?' Each side of the mind creating friction. I can see the LOO Material as a detailed description of how such a thought plays out. With all the descriptions of densities, polarities, etc. being the science of the mind as it moves through its creative moments.