(10-27-2009, 08:25 AM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: I believe “Yod Heh Shin Vau Heh” is the Hebrew name for Yeheshuah/Jehoshuah (Jesus).

Quote:24.5 Questioner: Then Yahweh, in an attempt to correct what I might call a mistake (I know you don’t want to call it that), started 3,300 years ago a positive philosophy. Were the Orion and Yahweh philosophies impressed telepathically, or were there other techniques used?

Ra: I am Ra. There were two other techniques used: one by the entity no longer called Yahweh, who still felt that if it could raise up entities which were superior to the negative forces, that these superior entities could spread the Law of One. Thus this entity, “Yod-Heh-Shin-Vau-Heh,” came among your people in form according to incarnate being and mated in the normal reproductive manner of your physical complexes, thus birthing a generation of much larger beings, these beings called “Anak.”

(10-28-2009, 02:40 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: Well, some of Ra's information about Moses and Jesus is significantly different than typical earth-bound thought. For instance, that the 10 Commandments were negatively given, that Jesus killed a playmate when he was a child, and that Jesus was not greeted as a hero when he returned to Jerusalem.

For me there is no need to suggest that Ra was confusing thought forms and "reality", but I can see that it's an explanation that some may well find satisfying.

(10-28-2009, 06:02 PM)kylissa Wrote: interferences in, I'd guess, the magic of the spoken name. Ra seems to contradict the info I found naming Jehoshuah as Yod-Heh-Shin-Vau-Heh,

(10-28-2009, 02:40 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: Well, some of Ra's information about Moses and Jesus is significantly different than typical earth-bound thought. For instance, that the 10 Commandments were negatively given, that Jesus killed a playmate when he was a child, and that Jesus was not greeted as a hero when he returned to Jerusalem.

For me there is no need to suggest that Ra was confusing thought forms and "reality", but I can see that it's an explanation that some may well find satisfying.

(10-29-2009, 01:02 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:

(10-28-2009, 02:40 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: Well, some of Ra's information about Moses and Jesus is significantly different than typical earth-bound thought. For instance, that the 10 Commandments were negatively given, that Jesus killed a playmate when he was a child, and that Jesus was not greeted as a hero when he returned to Jerusalem.

For me there is no need to suggest that Ra was confusing thought forms and "reality", but I can see that it's an explanation that some may well find satisfying.

I agree! What really impressed me when I first read the Law of One 25 years ago was the explanation of Jesus. A Wanderer, who took on an important mission, made some mistakes but succeeded in his mission nonetheless, and is now off on some other assignment.

Not even remotely similar to the religious version of being "God sent down to Earth to die for our sins."

What impressed me about the Law of One was the lack of cultural images/thoughtforms/trappings! Whereas most other channeled works I've seen always have a religious flavor reflecting the bias of the instrument, not even a trace of Carla's Christianity can be found in the Law of One. I find this highly significant. Hence, I am more inclined to believe Ra about Jesus.

(10-29-2009, 01:02 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I agree! What really impressed me when I first read the Law of One 25 years ago was the explanation of Jesus. A Wanderer, who took on an important mission, made some mistakes but succeeded in his mission nonetheless, and is now off on some other assignment.

Not even remotely similar to the religious version of being "God sent down to Earth to die for our sins."

Ra Wrote:24.3 Questioner: Thank you. Then I assume that the Confederation stayed away from Earth for a period of time. What condition created the next contact that the Confederation made?

Ra: I am Ra. In approximately 3,600 of your years in the past, as you measure time, there was an influx of those of the Orion group, as you call them. Due to the increasing negative influences upon thinking and acting distortions, they were able to begin working with those whose impression from olden times, as you may say, was that they were special and different.

An entity of the Confederation, many, many thousands of your years in the past, the one you may call “Yahweh,” had, by genetic cloning, set up these particular biases among these peoples who had come gradually to dwell in the vicinity of Egypt, as well as in many, many other places, by dispersion after the down-sinking of the land mass Mu. Here the Orion group found fertile soil in which to plant the seeds of negativity, these seeds, as always, being those of the elite, the different, those who manipulate or enslave others.

The one known as Yahweh felt a great responsibility to these entities. However, the Orion group had been able to impress upon the peoples the name Yahweh as the one responsible for this elitism. Yahweh then was able to take what you would call stock of its vibratory patterns and became, in effect, a more eloquently effective sound vibration complex.

In this complex the old Yahweh, now unnamed, but meaning “He comes,” began to send positively oriented philosophy. This was approximately, in your past, of 3,300 years. Thus, the intense portion of what has become known as Armageddon was joined. [...]

24.5 Questioner: Then Yahweh, in an attempt to correct what I might call a mistake (I know you don’t want to call it that), started 3,300 years ago a positive philosophy. Were the Orion and Yahweh philosophies impressed telepathically, or were there other techniques used?

Ra: I am Ra. There were two other techniques used: one by the entity no longer called Yahweh, who still felt that if it could raise up entities which were superior to the negative forces, that these superior entities could spread the Law of One. Thus this entity, “Yod-Heh-Shin-Vau-Heh,” came among your people in form according to incarnate being and mated in the normal reproductive manner of your physical complexes, thus birthing a generation of much larger beings, these beings called “Anak.”

The other method used to greater effect later in the scenario, as you would call it, was the thought-form such as we often use among your peoples to suggest the mysterious or the sublime. You may be familiar with some of these appearances.

(10-29-2009, 03:33 AM)pphuck Wrote: I was thinking the same thing until I got to this part.

(10-29-2009, 01:10 AM)peregrine Wrote: I agree entirely with everything you said...right up until the last line. I still don't see why it wouldn't be a topic for inquiry...potentially. After all, distortion is one of the key attributes of this realm and something worthy of study, no?

(10-29-2009, 01:09 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:

(10-29-2009, 03:33 AM)pphuck Wrote: I was thinking the same thing until I got to this part.

I'm not sure I understand your point. Could you please clarify?

Are you saying that Jesus was Yahweh/Yod-Heh-Shin-Vau-Heh? I don't see the connection. The timing is off (Jesus lived less than 3000 years ago) and whether he mated or not is the subject of much controversy (though I personally think he did).

(10-29-2009, 03:39 PM)pphuck Wrote: In the quote you're talking about, 3300 years ago refers to one set of techniques, whereas what you're talking about as timing being off is another set of techniques without a specific time mentioned.

P.S. This used to be a longer reply, but while reading my reply I realized what had happened so I cut it down to lessen the confusion as much as possible.
D.S.

(10-29-2009, 04:59 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:

(10-29-2009, 03:39 PM)pphuck Wrote: In the quote you're talking about, 3300 years ago refers to one set of techniques, whereas what you're talking about as timing being off is another set of techniques without a specific time mentioned.

P.S. This used to be a longer reply, but while reading my reply I realized what had happened so I cut it down to lessen the confusion as much as possible.
D.S.

Yes, I noticed that. There were 2 different quotes; 1 referring to Yahweh incarnating and another about Jesus. But I didn't see a connection between the 2, so I'm wondering what you're basing your assertion (that Jesus=Yahweh) on.

Ra Wrote:24.3 Questioner: Thank you. Then I assume that the Confederation stayed away from Earth for a period of time. What condition created the next contact that the Confederation made?

Ra: I am Ra. In approximately 3,600 of your years in the past, as you measure time, there was an influx of those of the Orion group, as you call them. Due to the increasing negative influences upon thinking and acting distortions, they were able to begin working with those whose impression from olden times, as you may say, was that they were special and different.

An entity of the Confederation, many, many thousands of your years in the past, the one you may call “Yahweh,” had, by genetic cloning, set up these particular biases among these peoples who had come gradually to dwell in the vicinity of Egypt, as well as in many, many other places, by dispersion after the down-sinking of the land mass Mu. Here the Orion group found fertile soil in which to plant the seeds of negativity, these seeds, as always, being those of the elite, the different, those who manipulate or enslave others.

Ra Wrote:The one known as Yahweh felt a great responsibility to these entities. However, the Orion group had been able to impress upon the peoples the name Yahweh as the one responsible for this elitism. Yahweh then was able to take what you would call stock of its vibratory patterns and became, in effect, a more eloquently effective sound vibration complex.

Ra Wrote:In this complex the old Yahweh, now unnamed, but meaning “He comes,” began to send positively oriented philosophy. This was approximately, in your past, of 3,300 years. Thus, the intense portion of what has become known as Armageddon was joined.

24.5 Questioner: Then Yahweh, in an attempt to correct what I might call a mistake (I know you don’t want to call it that), started 3,300 years ago a positive philosophy. Were the Orion and Yahweh philosophies impressed telepathically, or were there other techniques used?

Ra: I am Ra. There were two other techniques used: one by the entity no longer called Yahweh, who still felt that if it could raise up entities which were superior to the negative forces, that these superior entities could spread the Law of One. Thus this entity, “Yod-Heh-Shin-Vau-Heh,” came among your people in form according to incarnate being and mated in the normal reproductive manner of your physical complexes, thus birthing a generation of much larger beings, these beings called “Anak.”

(10-30-2009, 09:31 AM)carrie Wrote: here's interesting suggestion:

The person Jesus came to teach the Law of One, to increase the polarity of the people here, but somehow, got messed-up.

All his original teachings were intentionally changed, distorted or made otherwise.

How about it?

(10-31-2009, 01:08 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: 2) An negative entity pretending to be Yahweh establishes a connection with the Hebrews 3,600 years ago.

(10-31-2009, 02:42 PM)pphuck Wrote: I'll get back to this at length soon, but I just wanted to point out that I think Ra only says that negative entities distorts the sayings of Yahweh, not that they impersonate Yahweh.

Quote:24.3 Questioner: Thank you. Then I assume that the Confederation stayed away from Earth for a period of time. What condition created the next contact that the Confederation made?

Ra: I am Ra. In approximately 3,600 of your years in the past, as you measure time, there was an influx of those of the Orion group, as you call them. Due to the increasing negative influences upon thinking and acting distortions, they were able to begin working with those whose impression from olden times, as you may say, was that they were special and different.

An entity of the Confederation, many, many thousands of your years in the past, the one you may call “Yahweh,” had, by genetic cloning, set up these particular biases among these peoples who had come gradually to dwell in the vicinity of Egypt, as well as in many, many other places, by dispersion after the down-sinking of the land mass Mu. Here the Orion group found fertile soil in which to plant the seeds of negativity, these seeds, as always, being those of the elite, the different, those who manipulate or enslave others.

The one known as Yahweh felt a great responsibility to these entities. However, the Orion group had been able to impress upon the peoples the name Yahweh as the one responsible for this elitism. Yahweh then was able to take what you would call stock of its vibratory patterns and became, in effect, a more eloquently effective sound vibration complex.

In this complex the old Yahweh, now unnamed, but meaning “He comes,” began to send positively oriented philosophy. This was approximately, in your past, of 3,300 years. Thus, the intense portion of what has become known as Armageddon was joined.

(10-31-2009, 01:08 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: 1) The original Yahweh moves souls from Mars to earth 75,000 years ago, genetically "improving" the newly-evolved earth bodies as he/she/it/they do/does so.

2) An negative entity pretending to be Yahweh establishes a connection with the Hebrews 3,600 years ago.

3) In response, the original Yahweh takes the name Yod-Heh-Shin-Vau-Heh and tries again to improve third-density bodies, this time by mating with the daughters of men. This takes place approximately 3,300 years ago and leads to the birth of a larger, stronger race.

4) 2,000 years ago the one we call Jesus incarnates. Ra doesn't say that he was from what is now called Yod-Heh-Shin-Vau-Heh, but it certainly seems plausible to me given the similarity (identity, really) of names.

Quote:Human history [...] could be divided into three periods. In the first or natural period, God revealed Himself to the patriarchs through the three-lettered name of Shaddai (Shin-Dalet-Yod). In the period of the Torah/Law He revealed Himself to Moses through the four-lettered name of the Tetragrammaton (Yod-Heh-Vav-Heh). But in the period of grace and redemption He revealed Himself through five letters, namely, the Tetragrammaton with the addition of the letter Shin, signifiying the Logos, thus spelling Yehoshua (Yod-Heh-Shin-Vav-Heh) or Jesus. In the name of Jesus, which is the true Miraculous Name, the formerly forbidden name of God now became pronounceable.
-- Gershom Scholem, Kabbalah

Quote:One of the divine names by which the Jews conceived the universal creative force was YHVH (Yod-Heh-Vav-Heh), which, denominated the Tetragrammaton, came to be considered as the equivalent of the Four Elements in the Cosmos. It was also conceived to represent the ordinary unenlightened man in whom the light of spirit had not yet made its appearance; the unregenerate being of earth, air, fire and water, given up to the things of the unredeemed self. By means of Magic it was considered that into these four elements on which the flesh is based, the Holy Spirit amidst fire and glory and flame descended. In Hebrew the element Spirit is typified by the letter Shin, with its three darting prongs of spiritual fire united under the form on one principle. Bursting asunder the fleshy being, and carrying with it the germs of enlightenment and inspiration and revalation, the Holy Spirit forms by its presence in the heart a new species of being, the Adept or Master Yod-Heh-Shin-Vav-Heh. This word, in Hebrew, is the name of Jesus, the symbol of God-Man, a new type-species of spiritual being, greater than Whom there is nothing in all the heavens and planes of nature.
-- Israel Regardie, The Tree of Life

Quote:The Kabbalists normatively associate the name Yah (Yod-Heh) with Wisdom (Chakhmah). Actually, however, only the first letter of this name, the Yud, designates Wisdom. The second letter, Heh, designates Understanding (Binah), the feminine principle. The reason why this name as a whole is used to designate Wisdom is because Wisdom cannot be grasped except when it is clothed in Understanding. For this reason, the Yud alone is not used as the name for Wisdom, but rather, the Yud combined with the Heh.
There are a number of reasons why these two letters represent Wisdom and Understanding respectively. Yud has the primary form of a simple point. This alludes to the fact that Wisdom is simple and undifferentiated. The numerical value of Yud is 10, indicating that all Ten Sefirot are included in the simple nature of Wisdom. [...]
Heh has a numerical value of 5, alluding to the five fingers of the hand. As such, it represents Understanding, the hand that holds Wisdom, distributing and channeling it.
-- Aryeh Kaplan, Sefer Yetzirah 1:1

Quote:The most primary relationship possible is that which exists between Creator and creation. This is the cause effect relationship. Cause is Keter, while Effect is Malkhut. Once the concept of Cause and Effect exists, another concept comes into being, namely that of opposites. If opposites exists, similarities must also exist. Two new concepts therefor comes into being. These are Similarity and Oppositeness. In the languauge of philosophy these are thesis and antithesis. In our terminology, Similarity is Chakhmah, while Oppositeness is Binah. These are the Yud and initial Heh of the Tetragrammaton.
Once Similarity and Oppositeness exist, another concept comes into being, namely, Relationship. In philosophical terms, this is the synthesis between thesis and antithesis. In our present terminology, this is the Vav of the Tetragrammaton. The word Vav means a "hook," and the letter Vav as a prefix means "and." In both senses, it denotes connection and relationship. At this point in the logical sequence, we have five concepts: Cause and Effect, Similarity and Oppositeness, and Relationship. These, respectively are Keter and Malkuth, and Chakhmah and Binah, and the Vav.
Until the concept of Relationship was introduced, only four abstract points existed. Keter and Malkhut, and Chakhmah and Binah. It is with the concept of Relationship that a three-dimensional conceptual continuum comes into existance. This defines six directions, and hence, the numerical value of Vav is 6.
-- Aryeh Kaplan, Sefer Yetzirah 1:13

Quote:Another way in which the Sefirot are unified is through the Divine Names. This is espescially true for the Tetragrammaton, YHVH. According to the Kabbalists, the apex of the Yud represents Keter; the Yud itself, Chakhmah; the initial Heh, Binah; the Vav, which has a numerical value of 6, the next six Sefirot; and the final Heh, Malkhut.
-- Aryeh Kaplan, Sefer Yetzirah 1:7

Quote:In the first or natural period, God revealed Himself to the patriarchs through the three-lettered name of Shaddai (Shin-Dalet-Yod).

Quote:Questioner: Thank you. What I want to do now is investigate, as the first-density is formed, what happens and how energy centers are first formed in beings. Does it make any sense to ask you if the sun itself has a density, or is it all densities?

Ra: I am Ra. The sub-Logos is of the entire octave and is not that entity which experiences the learning/teachings of entities such as yourselves.

Quote:Questioner: I have a question about that Council. Who are the members, and how does the Council function?

Ra: I am Ra. The members of the Council are representatives from the Confederation and from those vibratory levels of your inner planes bearing responsibility for your third density. The names are not important because there are no names. Your mind/body/spirit complexes request names and so, in many cases, the vibratory sound complexes which are consonant with the vibratory distortions of each entity are used. However, the name concept is not part of the Council. If names are requested, we will attempt them. However, not all have chosen names.

In number, the Council that sits in constant session, though varying in its members by means of balancing, which takes place, what you would call irregularly, is nine. That is the Session Council. To back up this Council, there are twenty-four entities which offer their services as requested. These entities faithfully watch and have been called Guardians.

The Council operates by means of, what you would call, telepathic contact with the oneness or unity of the nine, the distortions blending harmoniously so that the Law of One prevails with ease. When a need for thought is present, the Council retains the distortion-complex of this need, balancing it as described, and then recommends what it considers as appropriate action. This includes: One, the duty of admitting social memory complexes to the Confederation; Two, offering aid to those who are unsure how to aid the social memory complex requesting aid in a way consonant with both the call, the Law, and the number of those calling (that is to say, sometimes the resistance of the call); Three, internal questions in the Council are determined.

These are the prominent duties of the Council. They are, if in any doubt, able to contact the twenty-four who then offer consensus/judgment/thinking to the Council. The Council then may reconsider any question

Quote:When one speaks of such entities as The Nine, [4] one speaks of a kind of entity that has an unusual relationship with some of those within the inner planes of this planet. The entities which make up The Nine are, in fact, those of the entity known to this instrument as Yahweh. This instrument was saying that she felt that this was the designation of that particular contact and we confirmed that information as being so.

As you know, Yahweh has had a long relationship with those of planet Earth, especially those which came into incarnation from the planetary influence of the sphere you know as Mars. In altering the genetic code for this large group of entities as they incarnated upon planet Earth, they placed bits of themselves, shall we say, to make a complex story simpler, within the genetic changes that were made, and each of you carries, to some extent, some of these altered changes [in your DNA.]

Consequently, this particular entity contains a host of energies from the inner planes of your planet. There is a legitimate extraterrestrial aspect to this energy, but it is harmonized with inner-planes thought forms which are the templates of the genetic changes made 75,000 years ago when those of Mars came into the Earth’s sphere.

This means that these entities which together make up The Nine or Yahweh have never grown past the impulse or desire to interfere—for the good, of course—in the story of planet Earth. There is a tremendous love of the people of Earth from this group and a sincere and genuine desire to help. And yet, because of the distortions that have persisted in their infringement upon the free will of all of those whose genetic codes have been changed, there is a lack of awareness of the distortions inherent in physically presenting themselves before entities or making physical changes in an environment of which they are a part in order to convince entities that they are real.

We deeply understand the desire of those of The Nine to make a difference on planet Earth.

Quote:We are those of the Q’uo, and are aware of your query. The entity known as Yahweh is an inner planes entity, as opposed to an extraterrestrial entity. It is an essence native to this particular sun system which has been involved in the guardianship of the Earth sphere for thousands of your millennia. It is a combination of energies which are male and female. Rather than creating a hermaphroditic entity, however, this entity holds the energies of male and female in a sacred dynamic. One might as well call such as entity Adam and Eve, but it is both Adam and Eve. And it is not in any way, shape or form that which has been incarnate, but rather, it is of the angelic realm.

It is ironic in the extreme, we feel, that it is this entity which is responsible for creating conditions under which the male aspect of the species has become so unbalanced in its dominancy over the female aspect of deity, which in the original Yahweh energy was in perfect balance.

Quote:Questioner: I see. “The Nine” describe themselves as the “nine principals of God.” Can you tell me what they mean by that?

Ra: I am Ra. This is also a veiled statement. The attempt is made to indicate that the nine who sit upon the Council are those representing the Creator, the One Creator, just as there may be nine witnesses in a courtroom testifying for one defendant. The term principal has this meaning also.

The desire of the scribe may be seen in much of this material to have affected the manner of its presentation just as the abilities and preferences of this group determine the nature of this contact. The difference lies in the fact that we are as we are. Thus we may either speak as we will or not speak at all. This demands a very tuned, shall we say, group.

Quote:At the end of the second minor cycle of harvest in third density upon planet Earth, the Council of Saturn became concerned that the solar system as a whole had been able to bring to a normal graduation only one of the planets in this particular solar system that you call the Sun. It decided that it would be helpful to create a time lateral and to place the planet under strict quarantine. It was further decided that all of those entities whose third densities had been interrupted be brought to Earth to join Earth’s cycle leading to harvest.

Quote:I am Q’uo. The approval is that, not only of each social memory complex, but of that council which sits and serves as what you would call the Guardians of this particular planet, those entities which oversee Confederation attempts to be of service to entities upon this planetary sphere. This council, the session council, is known to you as the Nine, or the Council of Saturn.

Quote:The Guardians of this planet went before the Council of Saturn and asked for permission to move that population to Earth. The second-density vehicles available for physical use upon planet Earth at that time were late second-density great-ape bodies, which the guardians felt might be improved upon by articulating facial features a bit more carefully, by altering the set of the body so it would be able to stand upright, and by improving the dexterity of the physical vehicle, especially in the hands. And by creating a larger capacity within the mind that came with that biological species. In essence they created a new and improved great-ape body which looked a good deal like the one you are now enjoying.

The Guardians at that time found, within the space of several hundreds of your years, that they had made what they considered an error in creating the new and improved version of the great ape body used by the denizens from Mars and thereafter used by entering souls from planet Earth or from elsewhere, simply because it was indeed a new and improved physical vehicle that looked like it would be handier to use to the entering souls and their guidance systems.

The Guardians’ mistake was in creating better physical vehicle with the attitude that these physical vehicles were better and that the people that inhabited those physical vehicles were special. Naturally, the Guardians were very fond of the incoming population and felt great love for them, as they were placing them carefully and gently upon planet Earth to take up again their search for love.

Quote:Many are the creations of the Father that have played out their third density in an atmosphere in which there was far less freedom of choice, or to put it another way, far less confusion than in your particular sub-Logos’ version of third density. [In creations] where the veil does not drop entirely, the hints and inklings that give an ethically motivated seeker the ability to make choices clearly are enhanced. However, when there is less of a veil and less true freedom of will, the third-density experience takes quite a bit longer, for there is no intensity to take a test when one knows the answers.

It was this sub-Logos’ choice to create an extremely heavy veil and complete free will. Therefore, as humans attempt to become more fully human and to make ethical choices with clarity and precision, they have no proof that what they are thinking is correct, but only the faith within that believes, against all apparent adverse suggestion, that the universe is indeed a universe of love and that making choices that enhance love and enlarge compassion shall be the way in which power is developed to do work in consciousness.

Quote:P: My question came up in the last session. It was surrounding Maldek and Mars. Why does it seem like such a current theme for planets to be destroying themselves? Not planets but peoples of the planets, destroying themselves, their cultures! Is it central to this solar system or is it a common theme in third density?

We are those of Q’uo, and are aware of your query, my brother. The pattern, my brother, we would agree is well advanced and is indeed endemic to this region of space controlled by the Logos, or shall we say, sub-Logos that is your sun. The creation that was designed by this entity used a great deal of free will and a heavy veiling so that it takes actual effort for most people to retrieve their memory of the larger picture that moves beyond one incarnation into the grand design of the creation itself and you as citizens of eternity.

We are not saying that the Creator has not gained a rich harvest of new information about Itself from this particular design of creation. However it does seem that the combination of advanced free will and advanced veiling of the actual metaphysical situation have created conditions that are unusually likely to produce the thought pattern of aggression in order to get one’s way. Since it is so difficult to see that we are all one in your third-density experience, since the veiling is so complete, it becomes possible for entities to contemplate ending another’s life with less discomfort than if they were contemplating ending their own life. This has made it possible for entities to become habituated to the destruction of other selves.

And, indeed, the mental processes of entities who have, in lifetime after lifetime after lifetime, been involved in killing have become infected. It is as if you had taken up smoking: you can see that smoking is a bad idea; you can see the statistics that a certain number of people will get emphysema or lung cancer and will be removed from incarnation because of that habit. However, the smoking becomes a habit and it seems very difficult to change the habit once it has set in.

In just the same way, your tribe on planet Earth is made up of entities who have become habituated to violence. There is a great yearning in the heart of all of those who have so become habituated to lose the habit, to stop the violence that lies within the self. However, in order to change a habit, one must see a viable alternative to the habit.

Quote:Ra: I am Ra. At one time/space, in what is your past, there was a population of third-density beings upon a planet which dwelt within your solar system. There are various names by which this planet has been named. The vibratory sound complex most usually used by your peoples is Maldek. These entities, destroying their planetary sphere, thus were forced to find room for themselves upon this third density which is the only one in your solar system at their time/space present which was hospitable and capable of offering the lessons necessary to decrease their mind/body/spirit distortions with respect to the Law of One.

Quote:Carla: Well, what about the people from Maldek that blew their planet up, and the people from Mars? Those two civilizations both. Look at Lemuria—it’s a continuing pattern here of people basically wiping out their habitat. Is it inevitable for third-density people to do that? No, don’t answer that question. You really already did. It just seems so strange that it’s happened again and again and again.

I am Q’uo, and we would comment only to suggest that within your solar system there has been a great variety of experience, from the most disharmonious to the most harmonious, and it is within this range of experience that much has been learned. Not all progress is achieved in an harmonious fashion. Much there is of love that is learned by experiencing its polar opposite.

Quote:29.1 Questioner: Is our sun a sub-Logos or the physical manifestation of a sub-Logos?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

29.2 Questioner: Then I am assuming that this sub-Logos created this planetary system in all of its densities. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. The sub-Logos of your solar entity differentiated some experiential components within the patterns of intelligent energy set in motion by the Logos which created the basic conditions and vibratory rates consistent throughout your, what you have called, major galaxy.

29.3 Questioner: Then is this sub-Logos which is our sun the same sub-Logos just manifesting in different parts through the galaxy, or is it all the stars in the galaxy?

Ra: I am Ra. Please restate.

29.4 Questioner: What I’m saying is that there are roughly 250 billion stars somewhat like ours in this major galaxy. Are they all part of the same sub-Logos?

Ra: I am Ra. They are all part of the same Logos. Your solar system, as you would call it, is a manifestation somewhat and slightly different due to the presence of a sub-Logos.

29.5 Questioner: Let me be sure I’m right then. Our sun is a sub-Logos of the Logos of the major galaxy?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

29.6 Questioner: Are there any sub-sub-Logoi that are found in our planetary system that are “sub” to our sun?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

29.7 Questioner: Would you give me an example of what I will call a sub-sub-Logos?

Ra: I am Ra. One example is your mind/body/spirit complex.

29.8 Questioner: Then every entity that exists would be some type of sub or sub-sub-Logos. Is that correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct down to the limits of any observation, for the entire creation is alive.