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I don't even think love is a feeling... - Adonai One - 06-02-2013
I don't think love can be expressed either in emotion nor in words. There is far too much in this world that brings me absolute agony, stress and misery that I absolutely love and accept. Even pain itself brings me a feeling known as love. Death brings me a feeling of love and everything that is antithesis to it as well.
Love cannot be properly defined intellectually. It cannot necessarily be felt emotionally.
It's a concept that may just very well exist on its own with no real flavor just as water tastes like water... Love is not about feeling good. It's about being alive. It's about owning the life that you are and being responsible for it and aware of it.
All I can say is I love "love".
RE: I don't even think love is a feeling... - AnthroHeart - 06-02-2013
What is the excitement I feel for seeing my dog, if not love?
RE: I don't even think love is a feeling... - Adonai One - 06-02-2013
(06-02-2013, 10:56 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: What is the excitement I feel for seeing my dog, if not love?It is a form of love as all things are technically "love." The failing here is the English language that makes no differentiation between all sorts of things we consider love, whether it be romance, kinship or otherwise.
The love I speak of is the pure substance without distortion, the foundation to all reality and all emotion. The unconditional love a mother thrives on as she slaves away for a badly behaved child or a crying infant; the unconditional love the father has for his child as he works many jobs to pay for his education; the unconditional love of the rescuer for a drowning individual in a treacherous flood.
These are a narrow set of examples but these anecdotal people are not in joy; yet they love. People suffer for others yet it is considered love.
I will continue to disagree with the notion that if one is suffering they are not loving.
Love is not just pure joy and peace. It is found in the depths of many hells in our multiverse.
RE: I don't even think love is a feeling... - Unbound - 06-02-2013
According to Ra, love is the second distortion after free will.
RE: I don't even think love is a feeling... - Adonai One - 06-02-2013
(06-02-2013, 11:46 AM)TheEternal Wrote: According to Ra, love is the second distortion after free will.
It seems I tend to ignore this. It's really just another creation, isn't it? Heh, to think that in our multiverse there are universes without love.
RE: I don't even think love is a feeling... - xise - 06-02-2013
Though love might be the second distortion, it is philosophically and logically sound that it is a central concept in becoming/realizing the creator. For if the creator is many, countlessly infinite different things, the singular most simple unifying concept, on a logical and philosophical level, is unconditional love.
RE: I don't even think love is a feeling... - Karl - 06-02-2013
No matter how dark a place, there is light by which we can see, if only we have eyes to see it.
RE: I don't even think love is a feeling... - anagogy - 06-03-2013
(06-02-2013, 09:09 AM)Adonai One Wrote: I don't think love can be expressed either in emotion nor in words. There is far too much in this world that brings me absolute agony, stress and misery that I absolutely love and accept. Even pain itself brings me a feeling known as love. Death brings me a feeling of love and everything that is antithesis to it as well.
Love cannot be properly defined intellectually. It cannot necessarily be felt emotionally.
It's a concept that may just very well exist on its own with no real flavor just as water tastes like water... Love is not about feeling good. It's about being alive. It's about owning the life that you are and being responsible for it and aware of it.
All I can say is I love "love".
I agree that everything is love/light or light/love.
Ra has stated that this is so. I trust Ra.
And I think that what we humans call "love" is but a narrow cross section of the full manifestation of that love/light.
From my perspective, what we call "feelings" or "emotions" are just our vibrational interpretation or perception of the relativity between the macrocosmic view of the creator, and the microcosmic view that we represent. What I mean by that is that emotions are similar to spectrums of light in a way. They are all made up of the same thing, essentially, however we perceive them very differently depending upon the wavelength we are looking at. A certain threshold of vibration is interpreted as "red" and another threshold of vibration is interpreted as "blue" and so on.
Emotions are similar interpretations of another similar albeit less tangible threshold of vibration. All emotions are valid, but as the level of distortion becomes less, these emotions become more "refined". They begin to represent more "whole" representations or manifestations of this love/light. As the distortion becomes less, the perception of the creation begins to more and more reflect the perspective of the one infinite creator, or intelligent infinity. This perspective is completely free of resistance. This complete absence of resistance is pure positive energy. In human terms, I would describe this love/light as an amalgamation of all the emotions we find desirable: pure acceptance, joy, love, peace, freedom, etc.
It's pure happiness.
So to summarize, love is unity, unity is love. The closer our viewpoint approaches this undistorted oneness, the more of this love, or wholeness, we may partake of.
"The source of ALL distortions is the limit of the viewpoint."
RE: I don't even think love is a feeling... - Marc - 06-03-2013
All things are love in various forms. All is love.
RE: I don't even think love is a feeling... - kanonathena - 06-04-2013
(06-02-2013, 11:46 AM)TheEternal Wrote: According to Ra, love is the second distortion after free will.
Yea, my understanding is that love as the force pulling separation back to unity. Love is inherent in unity and manifests itself when creator experience finity/separation (deploy free will I think) and inevitably realize all there is is itself.
Love is the driving force behind everything, when we look at love from separation point of view we experience pain, which divert us back to seeing everything as unity. I think pain is the resistance when love that bring us to our greater self is trapped by a limited perspective.
RE: I don't even think love is a feeling... - Unbound - 06-04-2013
I think that's a beautiful way of looking at it, thanks for that.
RE: I don't even think love is a feeling... - zenmaster - 06-05-2013
(06-02-2013, 09:09 AM)Adonai One Wrote: Love cannot be properly defined intellectually. It cannot necessarily be felt emotionally.There is nothing primary to the phenomenal world here which can be sufficiently defined or felt. The attempt to express that meaning (in feeling or thinking) is the whole point of 3D. 3D provides the opportunity and even possibility for the circumstantial shadow aspects and signposts of that which is more primary to be explored in a self-limiting, yet ever expanding, and useful manner. In other words, insufficient ability to define it as it is, but totally sufficient to define it as it is needed based on current ability to accept. The sacred attempting to be expressed through the mundane.