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Further insight into Earth/human ascension - seek - 06-08-2014
I was reading through the 2011 transcripts and came across an interesting concept eluded to by Q'uo. What was stated was that indeed the work to bring Earth into 4th+ was complete but work remained for those that wished to strengthen the harvests numbers and combat the negative whom wish to further their agenda (balance and whatnot).
My question[s] I guess is/are does anyone have any further insight to this? I mean how can 3rd density beings exist on a 4th density planet? Does this mean that this current incarnation is the last one on this planet if we are not harvestable 4th+? What about children born after Dec 21 2012 (or whatever actual day the planetary harvest occurred)? Are they already 4th+? I guess I just assumed that some abrupt end to 3rd density would occur instead of a gradual die off.
P.S. What day does Q'uo state was the actual planetary harvest?
RE: Further insight into Earth/human ascension - I_Am_The_One - 06-08-2014
I only answer in opinion, and there are plenty who could expand on my thoughts. I dont know specifics, such as the children born in dec etc.. I believe that evolution, begins in the metaphysical, and works itself to the outside. So to our eyes, it would seem gradual. Like through a couple generations. Im sure, if you or I could look close enough. There is plenty of "data" to show there are changes happening. Though You nor me,or rather we=) should really worry ourself to greatly on that. Sure it is very interesting, but looking for evidence in that form, can be misleading. Plus the things in the Ra material or my heart. Hardly need proofs such as these.
1. Know yourself 2. accecpt yourself 3. Become the creator
Love/Light to all!
I also believe that you would be seeing the most change in the souls leaving, and serve other entitys coming. SOO you can see how things could change, in a relatively short amount of years. I do believe all 3rd density beings are in there last incarnation on Earth.
RE: Further insight into Earth/human ascension - AnthroHeart - 06-08-2014
I don't feel it's my calling to combat the negative forces. But I've had negative attachments which I've had to clear in the past. Or rather I had someone help clear the "Powers that Be" from my energy field.
I don't believe that Q'uo had a date for planetary harvest. I think that we are all harvested after we die. I don't believe there is a mass ascension.
RE: Further insight into Earth/human ascension - I_Am_The_One - 06-08-2014
I also have had assistance. I was under serious attack. I had a dream, I dont really remember that much. All I can remember is the entity trying to teach me, said something about the pineal gland. That morning I woke up, I felt completely better. Half way through the day. I remembered the dream. It hit me like a brick. It was beautiful.
RE: Further insight into Earth/human ascension - Stranger - 06-08-2014
seek: "time lateral", you can Google it - there's even a thread on it somewhere.
EDIT: Ok, here you go: Link
RE: Further insight into Earth/human ascension - Plenum - 06-09-2014
(06-08-2014, 04:13 PM)seek Wrote: I mean how can 3rd density beings exist on a 4th density planet?
as far as I'm aware, the 3rd density sphere will stay in activation until the transitioning is complete.
RE: Further insight into Earth/human ascension - AnthroHeart - 06-09-2014
3rd density light is waning. I'm surprised that darker activities and entities can still survive here now.
RE: Further insight into Earth/human ascension - seek - 06-09-2014
(06-08-2014, 10:13 PM)Stranger Wrote: seek: "time lateral", you can Google it - there's even a thread on it somewhere.
EDIT: Ok, here you go: Link
Wow! This rabbit hole just gets deeper and deeper. Don't know about you guys/gals but I get super excited knowing that there is this much (and more) stuff going on out there.
RE: Further insight into Earth/human ascension - AnthroHeart - 06-09-2014
The thing that gets me was project Looking Glass predicted something special was supposed to happen at the end of 2012. It predicted that time would end. I didn't see any evidence of that happening. Something about all timelines condensing into one.
I've also heard fantastic stories about how our parallel selves were merging, so that we would have fewer parallel existences now.
That's about the weirdest things I've heard of happening, that didn't directly happen to me.
RE: Further insight into Earth/human ascension - Phoenix - 06-09-2014
From talking to a friend of mine whom I respect. I think that in 2012 some sort of barrier was lifted and it is now easier to achieve spiritual feats. There are now a lot of people that can see auras. It used to be a special ability.
RE: Further insight into Earth/human ascension - anagogy - 06-10-2014
(06-09-2014, 08:09 AM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote:(06-08-2014, 04:13 PM)seek Wrote: I mean how can 3rd density beings exist on a 4th density planet?
as far as I'm aware, the 3rd density sphere will stay in activation until the transitioning is complete.
This is my understanding as well.
In fact, even after the transition is "complete", there is still a 3rd density vibrational plane or "sphere".
It is just "in potentiation" or "not activated" in the sense that there will be no 3rd density entities inhabiting said plane. And also, in the sense that our 3rd density artifacts or constructs (buildings, structures, etc.) will be gradually broken down by nature.
RE: Further insight into Earth/human ascension - BlatzAdict - 06-10-2014
I don't know how to explain it any better than knowing of the self in order to facilitate ascension.
It involves clearing the chakras and loving more. When you do. Things change.
I'm communing with animals and having direct conversations with my higher self now.
I am seeing the event horizon the black whole auric field within everyone now. I see the flow of it as it goes from earth to person to galactic center and back down.
Meditate.. Meditate everyday. Love things around you, love you inside and out.
That's all I've been doing! Forgive, Love, Thanks! I put my white light meditation showing you exactly what I'm doing/thinking.
All is in congruence and in agreement with the Law of One.
RE: Further insight into Earth/human ascension - seek - 06-11-2014
(06-10-2014, 01:42 AM)anagogy Wrote:(06-09-2014, 08:09 AM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote:(06-08-2014, 04:13 PM)seek Wrote: I mean how can 3rd density beings exist on a 4th density planet?
as far as I'm aware, the 3rd density sphere will stay in activation until the transitioning is complete.
This is my understanding as well.
In fact, even after the transition is "complete", there is still a 3rd density vibrational plane or "sphere".
It is just "in potentiation" or "not activated" in the sense that there will be no 3rd density entities inhabiting said plane. And also, in the sense that our 3rd density artifacts or constructs (buildings, structures, etc.) will be gradually broken down by nature.
Right this was my understanding as well. But how could this be if Earth is already 4th+? According to Q'uo, this transition is complete so how can we humans still survive in the 3rd density plane while in potentiation? Or is this not an immediate thing either?
Now time lateral....
The last communication from Q'uo on this subject appears to have been in 2007 and at that time it seems they felt the time lateral (or quarantine) was a huge success. Now in 2011 Q'uo is saying that Earth has completed its transition into 4th density? I hate to be an "end is nigh" type but it sure seems like we are going to be the generation to see the end of 3rd density on planet Earth.
RE: Further insight into Earth/human ascension - anagogy - 06-11-2014
(06-11-2014, 10:53 PM)seek Wrote: Right this was my understanding as well. But how could this be if Earth is already 4th+? According to Q'uo, this transition is complete so how can we humans still survive in the 3rd density plane while in potentiation? Or is this not an immediate thing either?
Now time lateral....
The last communication from Q'uo on this subject appears to have been in 2007 and at that time it seems they felt the time lateral (or quarantine) was a huge success. Now in 2011 Q'uo is saying that Earth has completed its transition into 4th density? I hate to be an "end is nigh" type but it sure seems like we are going to be the generation to see the end of 3rd density on planet Earth.
The only wisdom I can offer you, in regards to your questions is to say: no channeling is 100% accurate.
Channeling is about stilling the mind and looking through the still pond of the individual mind into the subconscious mind and further still to the collective subconscious mind, and sometimes further still into the cosmic mind. To say it is a delicate or subtle process is possibly the understatement of the year.
Seeing into the deeper levels of the cosmic mind requires a crystalline balance. The turbulence is difficult to overcome. We all have access to omniscience as extensions of the creator, but the reliability of that omniscience is in direct proportion to the clarity of one's mind. This is why there is a vast qualitative difference in many channelings.
I find a large qualitative difference between the conscious channelings of say Q'uo and the "unconscious" trance channel that comprised the Ra contact. That's doesn't make it invalid, but always bear in the mind the distortion factor of the 3rd density ego.
My understanding is that full switch over to 4D is a slow and gradual process of evolution via bisexual reproduction, which, as Ra said will gradually birth physical vehicles which are fully 4D. So while 3D space/time may be totally sitting in a nest of 4D space/time now, the 4D layer of the Earth may not yet, be fully manifested or solidified. It is my belief this 4D layer of the Earth is manifested gradually as the 3D forms gradually manifest their own 4D layer and gradually switch over to it, abandoning 3D physical in favor of 4D physical over the course of several generations.
RE: Further insight into Earth/human ascension - AnthroHeart - 06-12-2014
I wonder if 4D is all play and no work, except what you want to do.
RE: Further insight into Earth/human ascension - ricdaw - 07-29-2014
(06-11-2014, 11:51 PM)anagogy Wrote: [quote='seek' pid='154696' dateline='1402541598']
My understanding is that full switch over to 4D is a slow and gradual process of evolution via bisexual reproduction, which, as Ra said will gradually birth physical vehicles which are fully 4D. So while 3D space/time may be totally sitting in a nest of 4D space/time now, the 4D layer of the Earth may not yet, be fully manifested or solidified. It is my belief this 4D layer of the Earth is manifested gradually as the 3D forms gradually manifest their own 4D layer and gradually switch over to it, abandoning 3D physical in favor of 4D physical over the course of several generations.
I've always felt the two Earths (3D and 4D) were simultaneous, not sequential. So it’s not so much that the Earth transitions from Yellow Ray to Green, 3D to 4D, so much as the focus of the inhabitants on the planet shift from one dimension to the other so that we can start to interact with 4D.
I think of the 3D and 4D Earths as two simultaneous, and closely banded, radio stations. We are tuned into the 3D station. It has our focus. The 4D station is completely there and fully “manifest” and broadcasting, but it’s just invisible to us presently. (I wonder if the missing 96% of the Universe, the so-called “dark matter” is really nothing more than the matter in all the other six out-of-phase dimensions. . . the “missing” matter is in the analogous 1D, 2D, 4D, 5D, 6D and 7D dimensions . . . .)
The 4D Earth station has, so far, been broadcasting its pre-morning test pattern and it is just now starting to broadcast live programming. In the meantime, the 3D Earth station where we live is finishing up the day and will soon do a sign off to its post-broadcast test pattern. We 3D Earthly inhabitants won’t notice much difference because we are still tuned into the 3D channel which continues to run in overlap with the 4D channel.
I imagine there will probably be some bleed thru; the occasional extinct 3D species might suddenly “appear” here in 3D space (animals and plant life being suited to both environments) from their 4D environment, much to the delight and puzzlement of scientists who were convinced of the creature’s extinction.
I also imagine that children born today might begin to “see” or “be aware of” the 4D Earth as a second viable living environment.
I imagine there are power spots and gateways around the planet where someone might be able to cross between the two (like the journey into faery land?) for short adventures.
Eventually, the 3D and 4D signals will become known to all. Like when we tune the dial and hear both radio stations at once. And then there will come a time when the bother of “seeing” two simultaneous environments at the same time, will become uncomfortable enough to cause the inhabitants to choose to live in only one. Like when ?Sweden? decided recently to change from driving on the left side of the road to the right side of the road all at once. And, having chosen 4D, and always choosing 4D, our decedents will gradually train themselves only to see 4D and their eyes will weaken the sight of 3D until it too is unavailable without great effort.
Our evolution to 4D will begin with this “tuning into” or perceiving 4D. It won’t be something done to us, but something done by us. As a group we will change to a new collective perceptual consensus by choosing to exist in the newly visible 4D and to cease to interact with the old 3D environment.
Double vision, anyone?
In a weird way, I think our environmental warming and slow global environmental catastrophe will be the motivation. If you could look out the door of your house and see (a) the 3D neighbor’s house next door or (b) a 4D pristine pastoral meadow, you might one day decide it would be better to exit stage (b). Even if it meant leaving your house and stuff behind.
And, interestingly, the “stories” of 3D Earth will still be taught to our kids. Myths for a new generation. “Remember when we used to live with all those skyscrapers and cars? When the Earth was warming up and all the ice melted?” And the kids will marvel and not believe a word of it. It will be the reverse Eden story.
We left the civilization and returned to the garden.
RE: Further insight into Earth/human ascension - AnthroHeart - 07-29-2014
Very nice ricdaw. I like the 2 simultaneous Earth's theory. I'd give up my possessions to live in 4D.