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AnthroHeart · 05-31-2015, 06:26 PM

One is the Many, and the Many are the One.

The One is real. The Many are illusion.

How is this not paradoxical?

Lighthead · 05-31-2015, 06:32 PM

(05-31-2015, 06:26 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: One is the Many, and the Many are the One.

The One is real. The Many are illusion.

How is this not paradoxical?

In infinity there are no paradoxes. All is one.

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Minyatur · 05-31-2015, 07:07 PM

One wanted to know what it was like to be many.

AnthroHeart · 05-31-2015, 07:27 PM

Everything only seems real.

Indigo Light · 05-31-2015, 10:07 PM

I disagree. I believe that the illusion, signifies the creator, immersed in light or the creation. Light is real. Love is real. I use to think about it all day as an illusion. I don't believe this is the correct mental configuration. I believe these lives and experiences, are real, and mean a great deal. I find no part of it to be fake or fraudulent.

Minyatur · (This post was last modified: 05-31-2015, 10:10 PM by Minyatur.)

Well the illusion is real in awareness else you could say beingness altogether is an illusion and it also is the only reality there is. Once we go back to the One, we also become ready to experience a new reality.

Indigo Light · 05-31-2015, 10:10 PM

I am saying that the illusion, does not mean unreal or fake. Rather the creator is experiencing. The entire creation as you probably know, is built on light through love.

Minyatur · 05-31-2015, 10:11 PM

(05-31-2015, 10:10 PM)Indigo Light Wrote: I am saying that the illusion, does not mean unreal or fake. Rather the creator is experiencing. The entire creation as you probably know, is built on light through love.

I didn't mean to disagree, rather agree.

Indigo Light · 05-31-2015, 10:12 PM

(05-31-2015, 10:09 PM)Minyatur Wrote: Well the illusion is real in awareness else you could say beingness altogether is an illusion and it also is the only reality there is. Once we go back to the One, we also become ready to experience a new reality.

I agree, I like your signature.

Indigo Light · 05-31-2015, 10:13 PM

I wrote that second one as a after thought, not as a response=) I didn't even know you had responded.

godwide_void · 06-01-2015, 12:08 AM

Illusion but real.

Physical yet energetic.

Micro yet macro.

Within is beyond.

Finite yet still infinite.

anagogy · (This post was last modified: 06-01-2015, 02:26 AM by anagogy.)

(05-31-2015, 06:26 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: One is the Many, and the Many are the One.

The One is real. The Many are illusion.

How is this not paradoxical?

But see, you resolved the paradox already.

The many are illusion. The One is real.

Now if both were real, now THAT would be a paradox.

It is almost like you are watching a movie, and you picked one of the characters on screen and started identifying with all his actions, behaviors, troubles and whims. So much so that when they are injured, you feel it. Or you could back your perception up, and realize the pain is caused only by your false identification.

You are not that character in the movie. You are the ONE watching the spectacle unfold. But sometimes its fun to watch a movie and identify with the story being told.

VanAlioSaldo · 06-01-2015, 11:22 AM

(05-31-2015, 06:26 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: One is the Many, and the Many are the One.

The One is real. The Many are illusion.

How is this not paradoxical?

OH OH, OH OH, OhOHOHohOH OH! OH!!!

ME!
I CAN ANSWER THIS!
Oh my God I'm so happy someone finally asked! I have, waited, so long!

It's a Paradox of a Paradox! The Many are the One, so the One is also from their reality an illusion. As the Many become One they create the only true One that is manifest as a singular consciousness (with the One otherwise existing in unmanifest and pure form simultaneously). But the Many came from the One, so the Many are also illusion, until they become fully manifest.

From both ends of the spectrum we move to the other as a vibration might be perceived to go left then right then left in a straight line (Continuum), simultaneity allows for time to progress linearly-forward backwards as well. The Creator could very well have seeded itself without ever knowing it, and the cycle continues until understanding comes and the next depth of cycle occurs on both ends, the new beginning, the new end and beginning, Further down the Spiral.

I love you so much for asking! Thank you!

It truly is one of those really complex and in depth paradoxical examinations that require a huge amount of mental space and function to fully map out in the mind (at least...I feel like it does for me...)

VanAlioSaldo · 06-01-2015, 11:23 AM

(06-01-2015, 02:03 AM)anagogy Wrote:
(05-31-2015, 06:26 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: One is the Many, and the Many are the One.

The One is real. The Many are illusion.

How is this not paradoxical?

But see, you resolved the paradox already.

The many are illusion. The One is real.

Now if both were real, now THAT would be a paradox.

It is almost like you are watching a movie, and you picked one of the characters on screen and started identifying with all his actions, behaviors, troubles and whims. So much so that when they are injured, you feel it. Or you could back your perception up, and realize the pain is caused only by your false identification.

You are not that character in the movie. You are the ONE watching the spectacle unfold. But sometimes its fun to watch a movie and identify with the story being told.

The many are real. I am real. You are real. Are you and I, not enough to be said to be, 'Many'?

Or is that like...A few? or a couple? I'm seriously asking.

AnthroHeart · 06-01-2015, 01:44 PM

It's hard to explain this to my friend who doesn't believe any philosophy that's not fact.

VanAlioSaldo · 06-01-2015, 01:44 PM

Factual Philosophy is...

Very sad.

Minyatur · 06-01-2015, 02:17 PM

(06-01-2015, 01:44 PM)VanAlioSaldo Wrote: Factual Philosophy is...

Very sad.

Factual philosophy is not wanting to know anything. Yeah we're clueless but people in a few thousands years might have a clue about something at that point. We shouldn't think about the world around us.

Jim Kent + · 06-01-2015, 02:37 PM

Greetings sisters and brothers,

This thread reminded me of the following:

1.1 Questioner: It seems members of the Confederation have a specific purpose. Is this true with you, and if so, what is your purpose?

Ra: I am Ra. We communicate now. We, too, have our place. We are not those of the Love or of the Light. We are those who are of the Law of One. In our vibration the polarities are harmonized, the complexities are simplified, and the paradoxes have their solution. We are one. That is our nature and our purpose.

L & L

Jim

anagogy · 06-01-2015, 03:14 PM

(06-01-2015, 11:23 AM)VanAlioSaldo Wrote: The many are real. I am real. You are real. Are you and I, not enough to be said to be, 'Many'?

Or is that like...A few? or a couple? I'm seriously asking.

When you look at the reflection of the sun in the water of a pond, and the surface of the pond has ripples on it, does that mean the sun is rippling also?

The image you are seeing is a distortion of the reality that is. The distorted image only reflects half truths. Parts of the real, and parts of the unreal. Separation, or manyness, is a ripple on the surface of the pond. When the pond becomes still, you will see a true reflection of the sun. But even so, the reflection is not the sun. The pond is like the mind, the sun is like the spirit, and the ground on which the pond sits is like the body, which the mind conforms to, for the time being.

In summary, the "many" are not what they appear to be. It is the play of light and shadow in the theatre of the mind.

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