Physical addiction vs Chakras?

[JJCarsonian]

Hey guys

just curious - what is your perspective on physical addictions vs chakra blockages? I'm sure there is a very strong correlation here.

If a person that was physically addicted to pain killers or what no stops using them, and manages to unblock their chakras to a degree, does that mean their addiction goes away? Or is there still a physical component that will impact the person? I'm just curious how these things correspond with one another.

[AnthroHeart]

If it's still on your mind, there's something unresolved there I find.

[Agua]

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[Minyatur]

If a person that was physically addicted to pain killers or what no stops using them, and manages to unblock their chakras to a degree, does that mean their addiction goes away?  Or is there still a physical component that will impact the person?  I'm just curious how these things correspond with one another.

I think that's pretty much how it works.

I used to smoke cigarettes and a day I did a MDMA trip (crystal form) with a friend and became very aware of the implication of smoking cigarettes in a way I couldn't ignore and it lead to a 4 hours talk about the root of why they had taken the daily place they took in my life a few years ago.

I never decided to quit them, instead resolving my emotional nodes on which my consumption of them was rooted made me completely unable to appreciate them. I tried to force it for about two weeks, and a few occasional times after that, but I've never been able to appreciate one again and now I couldn't see myself want to smoke one again.

I did make a choice, but a choice relating to my emotional field, and what was not needed plain fell away.

[JJCarsonian]

actually i dont like this expression very much, because it sound so mechanical, technical.
but we are not machines but human beings.
a chakra blockage is not some idiot playing around with controls in the machine room and accidentally blocking a chakra.

its more of an emotional thing.
you have an experience where the emotions involved are too much to take for you at that time.
then you suppress these emotions.
you do this by blocking the related chakra, greatly reducing your energy and by that reducing the energy of the emotions involved.
(its not always emotions, but thats a pretty close description)
then they fall below the threshhold of your awareness.

Thank you for your response. I completely agree with what you say. I guess the thrust of my query is about whether or not there is a direct connection between chakra blockage and physical addiction symptoms. In a physical addiction such as pain killers, if you take that away, you go through massive physical withdrawals. Its not psychological (Or maybe it is i dont know), but scientists explains the ailments are caused by a physical depletion of some of the chemicals in your brain... So hypothetically, if a person in this situation miraculously and suddenly activates all chakras to a substantial degree, would all physical ailments go away? Would your brain suddenly start making the chemicals that were once depleted? In other words, does chakra activation cause the body to release chemicals/hormoes/etc..

I used to smoke cigarettes and a day I did a MDMA trip (crystal form) with a friend and became very aware of the implication of smoking cigarettes in a way I couldn't ignore and it lead to a 4 hours talk about the root of why they had taken the daily place they took in my life a few years ago.

I never decided to quit them, instead resolving my emotional nodes on which my consumption of them was rooted made me completely unable to appreciate them. I tried to force it for about two weeks, and a few occasional times after that, but I've never been able to appreciate one again and now I couldn't see myself want to smoke one again.

So after your MDMA trip and 4 hour discussion, you didnt feel a need for cigarettes, and you decided to quit them... Did your quitting cause any physical ailments? Or were you perfectly fine afterwards?


By the way - thanks again all who replied. I appreciate any response to any of my questions and I always "like" your comments - i guess thats the least i can do ;-)

[AnthroHeart]

If you clear your chakras, you move closer to the light. Your thoughts start to manifest quicker. Your shadows get sharper.
I don't think the brain ever does something suddenly. It takes time for energy to come into physical manifestation.

Though when my chakras got unblocked for the most part, I did experience bliss for a few minutes. But you can't walk around in that state all the time.
And you gain insight into things. You build your intuition.

[Minyatur]

I used to smoke cigarettes and a day I did a MDMA trip (crystal form) with a friend and became very aware of the implication of smoking cigarettes in a way I couldn't ignore and it lead to a 4 hours talk about the root of why they had taken the daily place they took in my life a few years ago.

I never decided to quit them, instead resolving my emotional nodes on which my consumption of them was rooted made me completely unable to appreciate them. I tried to force it for about two weeks, and a few occasional times after that, but I've never been able to appreciate one again and now I couldn't see myself want to smoke one again.

So after your MDMA trip and 4 hour discussion, you didnt feel a need for cigarettes, and you decided to quit them... Did your quitting cause any physical ailments?  Or were you perfectly fine afterwards?

I never decided to quit so much as I acknowledged to have now made myself dissonant with them.

So I've both came to have no need of them, just as a total loss of appreciation.

[anagogy]

Hey guys

just curious - what is your perspective on physical addictions vs chakra blockages?  I'm sure there is a very strong correlation here.

If a person that was physically addicted to pain killers or what no stops using them, and manages to unblock their chakras to a degree, does that mean their addiction goes away?  Or is there still a physical component that will impact the person?  I'm just curious how these things correspond with one another.

Usually people are using drugs to compensate for blocked energy centers.

The drug opens the energy center, but artificially. If the energy center was open, there would be no need for the drug (however this doesn't mean drug use automatically means imbalance -- we are talking about addiction). Many things can be appreciated without it necessarily meaning imbalance.

But in the unblocked individual, the light would pour through their vessel, perfecting them moment by moment.

Someone near enlightenment would feel something very akin to the bliss drugs produce. A profound joy.

But mental, physical, and emotional addictions don't always disappear instantly. They usually have to heal over a variable amount of time. The withdrawal period. Where a new balance is found. However it is possible for it to be instantaneous. I've seen people hypnotized and had their addictions disappear instantly. Every situation is unique.

[Cainite]

However it is possible for it to be instantaneous. I've seen people hypnotized and had their addictions disappear instantly. Every situation is unique.

Being an addict myself, I find that hard to believe. even when we quit and the withdrawals end, we will still be recovering for the rest of our lives. the suffering that addiction brings is unlikely to ever end.

Are you implying that one session of hypnotism can change the brain?

[Daisy]

However it is possible for it to be instantaneous. I've seen people hypnotized and had their addictions disappear instantly. Every situation is unique.

Being an addict myself, I find that hard to believe. even when we quit and the withdrawals end, we will still be recovering for the rest of our lives. the suffering that addiction brings is unlikely to ever end.

Are you implying that one session of hypnotism can change the brain?

I wouldn't go so far as to say that the suffering is unlikely to ever end. Some people absolutely do continue to suffer throughout their entire lives, even after they've become and remained clean. However, I certainly don't believe it to be the experience that all addicts can expect to have. I'd say that, after a certain amount of balancing has been achieved, your perspective on the situation will begin to alter to such a degree that the experience will no longer feel like suffering. Little by little, you'll start to feel like you're being healed, and much less so like you're being deprived. Like I said though, all experiences are different. Mine has had it's fair share of suffering, but, as each day passes, I feel a little less shackled by the chains of my addiction's pain.

[Minyatur]

I personally am not fond of the term addiction, people often view addiction as the issue, when I think it never is the issue itself. If you fight your addiction, then you are not working with the root of it and so never resolve your need, it's an attempt at overcoming which is bound to fail. The first step toward transformation always is to accept yourself.

I think this is a good quote on the subject of overcoming, which is very true in my experience in what it conveys :

Ra: I am Ra. The proper role of the entity is in this density to experience all things desired, to then analyze, understand, and accept these experiences, distilling from them the love/light within them. Nothing shall be overcome. That which is not needed falls away.

The orientation develops due to analysis of desire. These desires become more and more distorted towards conscious application of love/light as the entity furnishes itself with distilled experience. We have found it to be inappropriate in the extreme to encourage the overcoming of any desires, except to suggest the imagination rather than the carrying out in the physical plane, as you call it, of those desires not consonant with the Law of One; this preserving the primal distortion of free will.

The reason it is unwise to overcome is that overcoming is an unbalanced action creating difficulties in balancing in the time/space continuum. Overcoming thus creates the further environment for holding onto that which apparently has been overcome.

All things are acceptable in the proper time for each entity, and in experiencing, in understanding, in accepting, in then sharing with other-selves, the appropriate description shall be moving away from distortions of one kind to distortions of another which may be more consonant with the Law of One.

It is, shall we say, a shortcut to simply ignore or overcome any desire. It must instead be understood and accepted. This takes patience and experience which can be analyzed with care, with compassion for self and for other-self.

It is a strong belief in those who have suffered long that there is no end to their suffering, but this is just a dimension of belief that acts as a wall of their cage of suffering. If one could not heal, then none could heal, which is not so. In 3D the harshest of things is, I think, letting go of how you cling to your own suffering. Because truly, forgiveness and acceptance are an act of release of what you've been holding to in your expectations, only by letting things flow can you find peace because you are the flow itself and there is no harmony found in rejecting your essence. For decades one can hold to that it is right to be wounded and remain wounded over something, and this belief offers no exit to otherwise, yet releasing this belief is what offers to liberate your potential to see and feel otherwise over the same things, and thus be brought down by them no more.

An addiction always hides something the self avoids to face.

Edit : I personally heavily link the term addiction with being unconscious of your need of something. If you were conscious of it, then the term makes no sense as you acknowledge your will.

[AnthroHeart]

What about an addiction to sugar and coffee?
Is that hiding something the self does not wish to face?

[Minyatur]

What about an addiction to sugar and coffee?
Is that hiding something the self does not wish to face?

Everything holds symbolism to distill.

[xise]

Depends on how you unblock your chakras.

Both the addiction and the chakra energy blockages are symptoms of a deeper root cause: underlying beliefs or perspectives or fears causing the blockage and the addiction.

So if temporarily energy work is done to unblock the chakra, without actually changing the root cause belief, the addiction will remain, though there may be a temporary pause. If the beliefs change, thereby unblocking the chakra, then the addiction will indeed naturally fall away (unless the beliefs change back to the addiction-causing belief of course).

[anagogy]

Being an addict myself, I find that hard to believe. even when we quit and the withdrawals end, we will still be recovering for the rest of our lives. the suffering that addiction brings is unlikely to ever end.

Are you implying that one session of hypnotism can change the brain?

All I can tell you is that I knew a woman who smoked 3 packs a day. After one session, she never craved them again.

Your mileage may very. But hypnosis draws upon forces no one in the scientific community properly  understands. And not all hypnosis is equal.

Attention is at the root of creation, and a powerful trance, has many magical effects.

And the body is just a reflection of the mind. Change what its reflecting and the brain will change too, hard as that may be to believe.

[JJCarsonian]

First, i would like to thank everyone for all their responses. This is a very interesting topic, since there is a link with drugs, addictions, and chakras.

Where I am ultimately getting at is - do the Chakras have a direct impact on the physical body? For example, at one moment my chakras are completely blocked, and then next moment they are fully activated. Will the body suddenly start producing chemicals associates with the emotional state? Lets forget for moment that this is impossible - this is purely hypothetical. I am just trying to ascertain the relationship between Chakras and the chemical body.

Though when my chakras got unblocked for the most part, I did experience bliss for a few minutes. But you can't walk around in that state all the time.
And you gain insight into things. You build your intuition.

I like bliss

I never decided to quit so much as I acknowledged to have now made myself dissonant with them.

So I've both came to have no need of them, just as a total loss of appreciation.

When you stopped smoking cigarettes, were there any physical withdrawals?

Usually people are using drugs to compensate for blocked energy centers.

The drug opens the energy center, but artificially. If the energy center was open, there would be no need for the drug (however this doesn't mean drug use automatically means imbalance -- we are talking about addiction). Many things can be appreciated without it necessarily meaning imbalance.

But in the unblocked individual, the light would pour through their vessel, perfecting them moment by moment.

Someone near enlightenment would feel something very akin to the bliss drugs produce. A profound joy.

But mental, physical, and emotional addictions don't always disappear instantly. They usually have to heal over a variable amount of time. The withdrawal period. Where a new balance is found. However it is possible for it to be instantaneous. I've seen people hypnotized and had their addictions disappear instantly. Every situation is unique.

I was at a state in which i felt balanced. I didn't have strong emotional responses to anything. I started taking pain killers, first for chronic pain in my leg... but then, i enjoyed the feeling of love that i started buying it off the streets. I am not on it anymore, though. I used a plant called Kratom to help me get off, but now i'm somewhat reliant on that.

Being an addict myself, I find that hard to believe. even when we quit and the withdrawals end, we will still be recovering for the rest of our lives. the suffering that addiction brings is unlikely to ever end.

Are you implying that one session of hypnotism can change the brain?

This is where i'm getting at. If i managed to activate my chakras - will i feel normal again? Can i get to the state of love and compassion that i desire? ive heard hypnosis has some great healing benefits. i'm not sure how it works - but you are essentially dealing with your subconscious, and much of our issues are rooted in our subconscious. I'm under the impression that we can program it to an extent.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that the suffering is unlikely to ever end. Some people absolutely do continue to suffer throughout their entire lives, even after they've become and remained clean. However, I certainly don't believe it to be the experience that all addicts can expect to have. I'd say that, after a certain amount of balancing has been achieved, your perspective on the situation will begin to alter to such a degree that the experience will no longer feel like suffering. Little by little, you'll start to feel like you're being healed, and much less so like you're being deprived. Like I said though, all experiences are different. Mine has had it's fair share of suffering, but, as each day passes, I feel a little less shackled by the chains of my addiction's pain.

God i hope so!

[AnthroHeart]

It pays to be patient with the chakras. It can take a decade or more to really begin to open up in a lasting way.
It's about accepting and allowing the Universe to flow through you, unrestricted as possible.
I find there are many ways to feel Love.

It also depends on any pre-incarnative programming we might have. Challenges we made for ourselves.

Fasting for a few days also helps if you want to build spiritually.

[Minyatur]

I never decided to quit so much as I acknowledged to have now made myself dissonant with them.

So I've both came to have no need of them, just as a total loss of appreciation.

When you stopped smoking cigarettes, were there any physical withdrawals?

Nop.

[Cainite]

This is where i'm getting at.  If i managed to activate my chakras - will i feel normal again?  Can i get to the state of love and compassion that i desire?  ive heard hypnosis has some great healing benefits.  i'm not sure how it works - but you are essentially dealing with your subconscious, and much of our issues are rooted in our subconscious.  I'm under the impression that we can program it to an extent.

I don't know about hypnotism. I'm not even sure if I really believe in the things that I think I do.
But I can imagine some experiences with more balanced people may help you quit cigarettes or weak drugs instantly.

I was talking about serious drug addicts. some of them seem to be physically damaged beyond repair.

[Agua]

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[AnthroHeart]

But a chakra cannot be balanced or opened mechanically as a lasting thing.

I agree. I have worked on overall balance instead of focusing on each individual chakra all that much.
Yes if one chakra seems way out of line you can bring it back in line, at least temporarily.

But I found something that I really loved, and I just let that love take over me and fill me.
That opened me up. It was about allowing rather than forcing the heart chakra into a certain openness.

So yeah, I'd focus on overall balance. And how we respond to stimuli. Does it rial us up, or are we at inner peace?
If someone makes you mad, recognize it's the body's response, and just observe the anger. If possible, love, or send love to the one making you angry.
Just intend it. That helps. That's what worked for me.

I'm learning more, but it's ok to say that I don't know.

I like the saying "Be like water." It doesn't resist, it just flows like the Tao. The Tao just IS.

These work for me. They may or may not for you. I don't know.

[Agua]

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[AnthroHeart]