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    Bring4th Bring4th Community Olio A Character Study - Daredevil's Fisk

    Thread: A Character Study - Daredevil's Fisk


    JJCarsonian (Offline)

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    #1
    05-11-2020, 08:59 PM
    I want to bring up an interesting subject and get your thoughts on it.

    In Netflix's TV series "Daredevil", the main antagonist in seasons 1 & 3, Wilson Fisk, is completely ruthless and totally out for power, but for his girlfriend/wife, Vanessa, he is shows the utmost compassion, love, and care for her. To almost anyone else, they are just a pawn in his scheme.

    I find this interesting, because based on what we know about the Law of One, I would conclude that it would almost be impossible for a person to have and show alot of love for another, while at the same time, is willing to do anything to anyone to obtain power and control. We do know that an STS can flip polarities, but that means a complete 180 in personality. It would be impossible to tow the line of complete STS behavior in all aspects of life, except for your wife who you love so much and have total compassion for.

    It brings humanity to Fisk for the sake of relate-ability for the show, but I don't think it could happen in real life.

    Your thoughts?

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    Navaratna (Offline)

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    05-11-2020, 09:12 PM
    I can think of plenty of guys throughout who were heartless murderers throughout and still had girlfriends. The instinct to reproduce is service to self. Even if the point isn't to have a family, and a guy doesn't necessarily want a woman so he can have offspring, it still is a desire rooted in benefiting the self.

    I don't think people like that stop their thoughts in their head and think--wait a minute this isn't completely benefiting only me!! They just go toward what they want and are willing to bulldoze anyone who gets in their way.

    Psycho guys do enjoy the company of women and I bet are chilled out enough to pretend that they're normal momentarily.

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    JJCarsonian (Offline)

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    05-11-2020, 09:56 PM
    (05-11-2020, 09:12 PM)Navaratna Wrote: I can think of plenty of guys throughout who were heartless murderers throughout and still had girlfriends. The instinct to reproduce is service to self. Even if the point isn't to have a family, and a guy doesn't necessarily want a woman so he can have offspring, it still is a desire rooted in benefiting the self.

    I don't think people like that stop their thoughts in their head and think--wait a minute this isn't completely benefiting only me!! They just go toward what they want and are willing to bulldoze anyone who gets in their way.

    Psycho guys do enjoy the company of women and I bet are chilled out enough to pretend that they're normal momentarily.

    I'm not questioning whether STS people can have girlfriends or wives. My point is that its impossible for complete STS people to show love and compassion. Its not a light switch that turns on and off. They incapable of going from murdering a million people in cold blood for the sake of power, to showing love and compassion for their kids or wife.
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    05-11-2020, 10:16 PM
    I don't think it's impossible is what I'm saying.

    It might not be the brightest and it's hidden under many levels of cruelty but I don't think theyre 100% heartless, more like 99% and the %1 that isn't is the fact that they love seeing themselves in their immediate family.

    They probably don't even like the word love, they might not even look at it that way. But they would stand up for family, putting themselves in danger in the face of adversaries.

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    05-12-2020, 01:12 PM (This post was last modified: 05-12-2020, 01:12 PM by flofrog.)
    (05-11-2020, 09:56 PM)JJCarsonian Wrote: I'm not questioning whether STS people can have girlfriends or wives.  My point is that its impossible for complete STS people to show love and compassion.   Its not a light switch that turns on and off.  They incapable of going from murdering a million people in cold blood for the sake of power, to showing love and compassion for their kids or wife.

    Interesting JJ, this is a thing I have quite a few times exactly wondered about. I still wonder if there is not a moment where true compassion might just suddenly flicker.

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    05-12-2020, 01:21 PM
    I believe higher density approaches 99% polarity.

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    JJCarsonian (Offline)

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    05-12-2020, 04:34 PM
    (05-11-2020, 10:16 PM)Navaratna Wrote: I don't think it's impossible is what I'm saying.

    It might not be the brightest and it's hidden under many levels of cruelty but I don't think theyre 100% heartless, more like 99% and the %1 that isn't is the fact that they love seeing themselves in their immediate family.

    They probably don't even like the word love, they might not even look at it that way. But they would stand up for family, putting themselves in danger in the face of adversaries.

    It reminds me of a comment Ra had about pack animal. Pack animals see the whole as the self, and really don’t experience individuality. An STS leader doesn’t protect his family or stand up for them because he loves them. He sees them as an extension of himself. I’m talking about true green ray love and vibration. An sts person would not be able to turn this on and off for specific individuals.

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    05-12-2020, 04:38 PM
    (05-12-2020, 01:12 PM)flofrog Wrote:
    (05-11-2020, 09:56 PM)JJCarsonian Wrote: I'm not questioning whether STS people can have girlfriends or wives.  My point is that its impossible for complete STS people to show love and compassion.   Its not a light switch that turns on and off.  They incapable of going from murdering a million people in cold blood for the sake of power, to showing love and compassion for their kids or wife.

    Interesting JJ, this is a thing I have quite a few times exactly wondered about. I still wonder if there is not a moment where true compassion might just suddenly flicker.

    I’m just thinking how it can. There is so much negative distortion in the way, I’m not sure If it would be possible for green ray to shine.

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    Navaratna (Offline)

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    05-12-2020, 05:45 PM
    (05-12-2020, 04:34 PM)JJCarsonian Wrote:
    (05-11-2020, 10:16 PM)Navaratna Wrote: I don't think it's impossible is what I'm saying.

    It might not be the brightest and it's hidden under many levels of cruelty but I don't think theyre 100% heartless, more like 99% and the %1 that isn't is the fact that they love seeing themselves in their immediate family.

    They probably don't even like the word love, they might not even look at it that way. But they would stand up for family, putting themselves in danger in the face of adversaries.

    It reminds me of a comment Ra had about pack animal. Pack animals see the whole as the self, and really don’t experience individuality.  An STS leader doesn’t protect his family or stand up for them because he loves them.  He sees them as an extension of himself.  I’m talking about true green ray love and vibration.  An sts person would not be able to turn this on and off for specific individuals.

    Yes, I see it that way.

    I don't picture a person like that thinking "I AM A SERVICE-TO-SELF ENTIT bleepbloop *erratic robotic malfunction*" questioning if they should try and defend their family because it isn't as selfish as obliterating the million other people they ordered the execution of.

    They just do what they do with their own priorities above anyone else. They aren't the kind of people to give it as much thought as a person reading the Ra material.

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