sanskrit was the first alphabet

[Spaced]

spaced, have you read or seen any of graham hancock's work? what you are saying reminds me of it. for some reason.

No I haven't, most of the stuff I've been posting here is just stuff that came to me while I was studying classics and anthropology in university. I'll check his stuff out though, thanks!

[Confused]

If we wish to take this line of extrapolation further, I would suggest that these Sanskrit speaking Anatolians may have been forced to relocate due to the expansion of the Semetic (Hebrew based) speaking Akkadian Empire into Anatolia. If this is the case they may have sailed to the then uninhabited island of Crete to set up a new society which flourished into the Minoan civilization (which I hypothesized in an earlier post in this thread also spoke Sanskrit). Tragically the Minoan civilization ended in flood (well tsunami) as well.

It seems like the Atlanteans were followed by water wherever they went, then, based on what you are saying or conjecturing!

The following from the website: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32086737/ns/...Djn5KDCrEx

Lost city of the Incas remains a mystery


In 1911, U.S. explorer Hiram Bingham scrambled up a steep mountain side in southern Peru and encountered an ancient city of sorts beneath the undergrowth. The site, Machu Picchu, is popularly known as the Lost City of the Incas. What exactly the city was, however, remains a mystery. Scholars have variously theorized it was the birthplace of the Incas, a private estate, and a spiritual destination. Prior to Bingham's encounter, the city was lost to the jungle for about 500 years.

Could Machu Picchu possibly be the location of Atlantean settlement in Peru? There is some more interesting information here that could be pertinent too -- http://sacredsites.com/americas/peru/machu_picchu.html

[Spaced]

If we wish to take this line of extrapolation further, I would suggest that these Sanskrit speaking Anatolians may have been forced to relocate due to the expansion of the Semetic (Hebrew based) speaking Akkadian Empire into Anatolia. If this is the case they may have sailed to the then uninhabited island of Crete to set up a new society which flourished into the Minoan civilization (which I hypothesized in an earlier post in this thread also spoke Sanskrit). Tragically the Minoan civilization ended in flood (well tsunami) as well.

It seems like the Atlanteans were followed by water wherever they went, then, based on what you are saying or conjecturing!

The following from the website: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32086737/ns/...Djn5KDCrEx

Lost city of the Incas remains a mystery


In 1911, U.S. explorer Hiram Bingham scrambled up a steep mountain side in southern Peru and encountered an ancient city of sorts beneath the undergrowth. The site, Machu Picchu, is popularly known as the Lost City of the Incas. What exactly the city was, however, remains a mystery. Scholars have variously theorized it was the birthplace of the Incas, a private estate, and a spiritual destination. Prior to Bingham's encounter, the city was lost to the jungle for about 500 years.

Could Machu Picchu possibly be the location of Atlantean settlement in Peru? There is some more interesting information here that could be pertinent too -- http://sacredsites.com/americas/peru/machu_picchu.html

While I am a lot more well versed in the history of the Mediterranean region, I have always found Machu Picchu a fascinating site. That said, I am fairly ignorant on the subject. While reading through that sacredsites.com article one thing that jumped out at me, and might provide a link between the culture that thrived at Machu Picchu and other possible Atlantean refugee cultures, is the concept of the Intihuatana stone which, when touched with the forehead, opened one to the spirit world.

A similar phenomena is found in Minoan towns, many of which had sacred stones referred to as baetyls. There are many depictions on Minoan seal stones of the use of the baetyl, which seems to involve the person 'hugging' the stone and being shown visions of the Goddess, possibly a Minoan version of Hathor. The use of the baetyl in minoan culture is often paired with the worship of trees, as we see on this Minoan signet stone:



It should be noted however that the name Baetyl is Hebraic in origin and that the minoans likely used a different, possibly sanskrit name for these stones. Consider the story of Jacob, where he sleeps using a stone named the Beth El as a pillow and is shown a vision of God. Beth El translates as 'House of God.' Baetyl stones show up ALL OVER the Mediterranean world from the Phoenicians to the Hebrews to the Greeks to the Romans, though the Greeks only had one and they named it the Omphalos, meaning the 'navel' and they considered it the navel of the world. While there is no direct evidence for this claim, I don't see why this practice couldn't have started in the region of Anatolia during the Neolithic and spread along with Indo-Aryan culture.

I think that it is fairly obvious that baetyl stones are a stand-in for the pineal gland, given their general shape and usage. And while the development of the Intihuatana stones in South America might have been a completely independent development, I find it interesting that two such similar practices could develop in such geographically disparate regions.

Phew, I don't know if this line of comparison is useful, but I do love thinking about this kind of thing

[Confused]

And while the development of the Intihuatana stones in South America might have been a completely independent development, I find it interesting that two such similar practices could develop in such geographically disparate regions.

Thank you very much for such detailed information, Spaced. That last post of yours was really educational. I enjoyed reading and assimilating its contents!

In terms of geographically dispersed cultures displaying similar practices, I think it is pretty much understandable with the three positive Atlantean groups that settled in Peru, Turkey and Tibet. After all, they were people of the same civilization, much advanced technologically, both in the world of spirit and matter. What is interesting for me is the choice of locations. I am sure there is some deep logic behind the choices. All three may have been mountain ranges too. I wonder what was the science behind the choice of the locations!

You have some ideas?

[Meerie]

Very interesting thread ! :-)
Mountains have been venerated as being the seat of the gods for a long long time. Probably because people equate heaven and god as being above us, so being on a mountain brings us closer to them.

[Shin'Ar]

The depiction above relays the ancient symbols pointing to the higher and lower being of evolution of consciousness. This has always been the meaning of the symbols of the stone and the tree.

The Tree of Life represents the ascension/climb of the lower to the higher.

The clinging to the stone represents man's natural tendency to cling to the flesh/lower form.

Also in the depriction you will see other ancient symbols such as the Sacred Eye, the djed pillar, and the serpent head donned with the Fire of The Spirit.

And note how the human forms are shedding their natural element of water revealing their temporary state of flux and physical connection. One in that temporary state seeks to ascend the Tree of Life, the other continues to cling to its lower self identity. Both experience the slow deterioration of their physical form.

[Confused]

Very interesting thread ! :-)
Mountains have been venerated as being the seat of the gods for a long long time. Probably because people equate heaven and god as being above us, so being on a mountain brings us closer to them.

Vos observations sont très intéressantes, Meerie Où étiez-vous caché si longtemps?

OK, Meerie, don't use too much French with me in a blistering linguistic reply. My French is all from Google Translate!

Plenum -- sorry for the momentary derailment. No more, I promise.

[Conifer16]

on the subject of atlantis :-P

if you go to theories you will find an interesting view on atlantis :-) i found it fun reading.

http://www.riaanbooysen.com/

also a fascinating page :-) i am trying to figure out how all these different well researched ideas go together :-)

http://www.atlantisquest.com/

and finally, Graham hancock :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yz1DfTF3-E

if you don't have time for a long video you can go to his website and read about some of his ideas there :-)

http://www.grahamhancock.com/news/index.php

though i highly recommend watching his videos. they have more info and it is easier to understand. so far,at least to me, his site seems to be for others to post their theories and for news.

Have fun :-)

[Spaced]

The depiction above relays the ancient symbols pointing to the higher and lower being of evolution of consciousness. This has always been the meaning of the symbols of the stone and the tree.

The Tree of Life represents the ascension/climb of the lower to the higher.

The clinging to the stone represents man's natural tendency to cling to the flesh/lower form.

Also in the depriction you will see other ancient symbols such as the Sacred Eye, the djed pillar, and the serpent head donned with the Fire of The Spirit.

And note how the human forms are shedding their natural element of water revealing their temporary state of flux and physical connection. One in that temporary state seeks to ascend the Tree of Life, the other continues to cling to its lower self identity. Both experience the slow deterioration of their physical form.

Thanks for your analysis of the symbols on the signet stone Shin'Ar.

Another symbol that shows up on that signet looks a little like a bee, similar to Bees of Malia from 17th century BC Crete



I wonder at their significance, it is thought to be the symbol of the nobility who resided at the Palace at Malia but surely there is more to it than that. In the above image they are seen storing honey in a comb