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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters Asking Ra to appear:

    Thread: Asking Ra to appear:


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    #1
    05-30-2013, 08:57 AM
    Quote:69.18 ▶ Questioner: This instrument performs services on Sunday night channeling other members of the Confederation. We are reluctant to continue this because of the possibility of her slipping into trance and being offered the services of the negatively polarized adept. Are there any safeguards to create a situation where she cannot go into trance other than at a protected working such as this one?
    Ra: I am Ra. There are three. Firstly, the instrument must needs improve the disciplined subconscious taboo against requesting Ra. This would involve daily conscious and serious thought. The second safeguard is the refraining from the opening of the instrument to questions and answers for the present. The third is quite gross in its appearance but suffices to keep the instrument in its physical complex. The hand may be held.

    What is implied by the bolded passage and how does it resonate with you.
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    05-30-2013, 09:44 AM
    I believe it's referring to this:

    Quote:68.5 Questioner: Would you tell me what happened in that case?

    Ra: I am Ra. We have instructed this instrument to refrain from calling us unless it is within this set of circumscribed circumstances. In the event of which you speak this instrument was asked a question which pertained to what you have been calling The Ra Material. This instrument was providing the voice for our brothers and sisters of the wisdom density known to you as Latwii.

    This instrument thought to itself, “I do not know this answer. I wish I were channeling Ra.” The ones of Latwii found themselves in the position of being approached by the Orion entity which seeks to be of service in its own way. The instrument began to prepare for Ra contact. Latwii knew that if this was completed the Orion entity would have an opportunity which Latwii wished to avoid.

    It is fortunate for this instrument, firstly, that Latwii is of fifth density and able to deal with that particular vibratory complex which the Orion entity was manifesting and, secondly, that there were those in the support group at that time which sent great amounts of support to the instrument in this crux. Thus what occurred was the ones of Latwii never let go of this instrument although this came perilously close to breaking the Way of Confusion. It continued to hold its connection with the mind/body/spirit complex of the instrument and to generate information through it even as the instrument began to slip out of its physical vehicle.

    The act of continued communication caused the entity to be unable to grasp the instrument’s mind/body/spirit complex and after but a small measure of your space/time Latwii recovered the now completely amalgamated instrument and gave it continued communication to steady it during the transition back into integration.

    Quote:68.12 ...We may suggest with some asperity that the instrument never call upon Ra in any way while unprotected by the configuration which is at this time present.

    As for how it resonates with me: I find the idea that Carla almost found herself the slave of a fifth-density negative entity basically terrifying. I can't quite believe that she continued channeling Ra after this was explained, and I can well understand why they haven't channeled Ra since Don Elkins died.
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    05-30-2013, 10:43 AM (This post was last modified: 05-30-2013, 10:43 AM by Spaced.)
    (05-30-2013, 08:57 AM)Not Sure Wrote: [snip]The third is quite gross in its appearance but suffices to keep the instrument in its physical complex. The hand may be held.

    What's so gross about holding hands? Tongue
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    #4
    05-30-2013, 10:44 AM
    Its so icky and you can get girly bacteria from holding Carla's hands Jim.

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    05-30-2013, 10:50 AM
    Well, I think people like Carla deserve a statue for their courage.
    Couldn't Ra just materialize himself, you know, put on a nice 3D outfit?

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    05-30-2013, 10:56 AM
    Yes, and like he said, that would lead "ya/we'all" to worship them and thus end in a bad outcome.

    Watch Babylon 5 for an idea of what happens when higher density folks "put on 3D outfits" and walk around. (hint, think vorlons when you think higher density folk)
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    05-30-2013, 11:02 AM
    I would'nt fall on my knees to worship them or anybody else for that matter. He should come over for coffee. Or tea.
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    05-30-2013, 11:02 AM
    As far as I understand, Carla was literally going into trance upon wishing that Ra would answer certain questions for her, causing her to enter a very vulnerable state without the proper protective measures being done first. Because of this she was nearly snatched from her body.

    I see the wider implication being that of not relying on higher entities to answer every question, but to be willing to do the work to discover oneself once the basic concepts have been disseminated.
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    05-30-2013, 11:08 AM
    (05-30-2013, 11:02 AM)Aloneness Wrote: I would'nt fall on my knees to worship them or anybody else for that matter. He should come over for coffee. Or tea.

    I believe that was already arranged for the end of next week?

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    05-30-2013, 11:22 AM
    (05-30-2013, 11:08 AM)Not Sure Wrote:
    (05-30-2013, 11:02 AM)Aloneness Wrote: I would'nt fall on my knees to worship them or anybody else for that matter. He should come over for coffee. Or tea.

    I believe that was already arranged for the end of next week?

    No, I have to leave my cave and drive all the way to amsterdam for that. RollEyes

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    05-30-2013, 11:24 AM
    (05-30-2013, 11:22 AM)Aloneness Wrote:
    (05-30-2013, 11:08 AM)Not Sure Wrote:
    (05-30-2013, 11:02 AM)Aloneness Wrote: I would'nt fall on my knees to worship them or anybody else for that matter. He should come over for coffee. Or tea.

    I believe that was already arranged for the end of next week?

    No, I have to leave my cave and drive all the way to amsterdam for that. RollEyes

    Pampered arent we. BigSmile

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    05-30-2013, 11:25 AM
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    05-30-2013, 11:27 AM
    (05-30-2013, 11:25 AM)Aloneness Wrote: Angel

    Heart

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    05-30-2013, 06:15 PM
    Your mention of babylon 5 caused me to download a whole of 50gb of material, and I must say that the vorlons seem to me the most interesting species.(I've only watched 3/4 of season 1 though).
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    05-30-2013, 06:29 PM
    (05-30-2013, 10:43 AM)Spaced Wrote: What's so gross about holding hands? Tongue

    Gross as in, physical rather than subtle.

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    05-30-2013, 06:35 PM (This post was last modified: 05-30-2013, 06:36 PM by xise.)
    (05-30-2013, 06:15 PM)Aureus Wrote: Your mention of babylon 5 caused me to download a whole of 50gb of material, and I must say that the vorlons seem to me the most interesting species.(I've only watched 3/4 of season 1 though).

    The show is crazy good from season 2-4. My favorite sci-fi show. Very spiritual/philosophical as well. The script is awesome.
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    05-30-2013, 06:39 PM
    I am taking away from this the conjecture that some human beings have certain psychic gifts yet might not be fully developed in ways to use these gifts wisely. Other human beings might be more evenly evolved and able to use their psychic gifts more safely.

    For example, Cayce said it might be dangerous for alcoholics to meditate, if I remember correctly.

    I think Cayce always called on Jesus for protection when going "out of body" or into trance. Also he always had a protective group around him, or at least he learned to do this after a while.
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    05-31-2013, 03:18 AM (This post was last modified: 05-31-2013, 09:00 AM by Hototo.)
    Babylon 5, without spoling too much. Is one of the most awesomely awesome "TV-Shows" ever made. And I use the term TV in the same context I would use the term TV for fox "news"

    Babylon5 is as much a sci-fi show as fox is news.

    Babylon 5 probably has more reality in it than 90% of organized mass media. Give it a go.


    Spoilers below but to a minimum and most about the charachters and the setting:



    Top comment:

    LordGodsServant

    Quote:...(probably Pak'Mara as they're said to sing beautifully for Religious reasons) live in the slums, their lives are a constant struggle to survive, yet they gather together in brotherhood to share joy in their unity and common cause. It's beautiful because even though their life is crap they can have joy in something as simple as singing a hymn.

    Carrion eaters song of thank for the attention we pay to the suffering they have. The giving away of the emblems of command to hear a few moments of song midst the turmoils of galactic affairs.





    Where was the technomage actor holding the flower? Wink (You'll see once you watch the full series what I mean... Sadly this isnt a long enough clip)



    A song of the telepath people, persecuted throughout the times for not joining the "Psi Corps."



    "Non localized phenomena" that projects "beams of light at the wall". sound familiar no?



    Londo, the inspiration for many of my guides ways of interfering with my method of unhappiness.



    Always remember to have a good nights sleep before breakfast with the higher ups. Especially if they have a sense of humor.



    Always remember to get the advanced english 101 class before being the ambassador to avoid difficulty with word complex.



    Sometimes the little things cause the most confusion.



    Sometimes there is no answer but to sit in silence and smile.



    Babylon 4 taken back into time "to fight in a war of light against the darkness" B4



    Fathers are such a beautiful thing.



    We are one.



    What is truth, what is god, and the value of laughter and mirrors in the search for god.



    Individuality and its value.



    Delenn has a few choice words to say to those twisting history and lying through their teeth.



    Channeled warning about the dangers of too much inter-dimensional travel. In an infinite universe it may not be smart to get too far into the realm of the dogs of the void. Or hounds.



    Yet revenge may never be a good idea.



    And so it begins, a dream of peace given form.



    Vir is epic. And that is all from B5 for now. Strongly recommended.



    The core belief of the christian faith.
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