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    01-04-2010, 07:22 PM (This post was last modified: 01-04-2010, 07:32 PM by thefool.)
    (01-04-2010, 04:00 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: What is "the bad" interpretation you speak of? I haven't seen one yet.

    Maybe I could have been more specific Smile. I meant to say that If we knew exactly what major changes are going to take place in 2012, people will categorize them as good or bad depending upon their expectations. Let's say those changes were in the current government/monetary systems/work systems. Some people stand to lose big and will define them as bad and some people will think of them as great changes due to increased fairness, equality and freedom.
    (01-03-2010, 08:10 PM)thefool Wrote: I have no clue what is going to happen. In fact it gets more confusing with all these contradictions. But I have known one thing, from my own intuition and dreams, for a long time- Something significant will happen in our life times. It may have gradual signs showing up before the event but it will not be like any other day we have had in earth's history. The good and bad interpretation is our own to make from it...

    I will add that an appropriate analogy would be that of water boiling. The liquid water boils at 100 degree C and transforms into another state to Steam. Steam has totally different properties than liquid water. This happens only after 100 C. Before 100 C in the process of heating the water there are gradual shift in the temperature of the water and those are observable. But the major changes only happens after the 100C...

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    01-05-2010, 02:31 PM (This post was last modified: 01-05-2010, 02:38 PM by irpsit.)
    Dear friend, yes, you were correct and I have missed a point here.
    Ra has pointed that the transition to 4D occurs somewhere in 2011 and 2012. And he mentions that the time lateral ends - Earth becomes 4D as a whole. This is already a GREAT event, per se: the fact that no more 3D souls will incarnate on the planet after that time; this could create a great uplift of vibrations.

    Curiously, Quo seems to state that to predict that this transition may bring some "destruction" since "those who are still breathing third-density air upon Earth are still around to pick up the pieces—which you are already doing, my friends—those who were not able to make the transition with you will all have been picked up as they enter larger life through the gates of death"..

    Therefore, and probably, the transition will be rather akin to the boiling of water in the next years, then the symbolic transition of autumn to winter (with only increase input of light).

    We can only wonder which event could be (if any). It would be very traumatic to the remaining people, the elimination of great masses of souls. However, that can also bring great cleansing and great compassion.

    Quo states that for people remaining, they will be in 3D bodies, breathing 3D air in a 3D world, and the harvest continues for them until their natural death. Probably, the transition to a final 4D state, takes the famous 100-700 years range (the water boils completely to steam).

    Finally, I personally assume with openness but skepticism the destructive scenario. I have had dreams that show me some dramatic planetary changes but part of the society continuing into 2020. I refuse to drive my life through negative visions, even if they are a transformation, and even if they are my own visions! Suffering by antecipation is unnecessary. I prefer to live in the moment of NOW, and following only my INTUITION. And looking for the meaning of the moment: the expression of self, the service to others, the share of love, joy and peace.

    ra and Quo do not point an exact period of transition. Maybe, they don't care so much about a timeline. Some quotes state winter solstice 2011, some somewhere in 2011, others somewhere in 2012, still others in winter solstice 2012. Astrologically, the whole period is highly charged (2009-2015) and particularly the solstices and equinoces. Probably the world will start boiling somewhere in 2011. And the bubbles contain 4D energy and are love-filled. We should keep the positive energies, and look for constructive scenarios, and keep open, as if knowing nothing at all. Obviously our major concern is only if the disruption would affect ourselves, our family and love ones, our friends, and how we keep our physical body. I guess that trusting intuition and only caring about the NOW is the major advice I can share with everybody here.

    (01-03-2010, 02:45 PM)Peregrinus Wrote:
    (01-03-2010, 07:00 AM)irpsit Wrote: To put everything clear: there will be no magical event in 2012, no end!
    The transition is gradual, and both Ra and Quo state that.
    On the contrary. The lateral time line will come to an end and we will go into time/space. If you consider that of little consequence, then so be it.

    Q'uo, Feb 7, 2007
    Quote:The planet itself, minus the time lateral, will completely shift into fourth density at the winter solstice of 2011.

    Quote:When the time lateral ends and those who are still breathing third-density air upon Earth are still around to pick up the pieces—which you are already doing, my friends—those who were not able to make the transition with you will all have been picked up as they enter larger life through the gates of death and with infinite care, cherished and supported through their own process of discovering what lay behind the veil of forgetting. They will be given every chance to consider their lives and what they wish to do next. They will go to a third-density planet somewhere that is not Earth and they will take up the third-density classroom once again, attempting to learn to make that choice and to set the intention not just for third density but for so many densities to come, all the way through the middle of sixth density.

    Anyways, I really rejoiced in your posts, Fool and Peregrinus!
    A great New Year for you all!

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    01-05-2010, 03:24 PM (This post was last modified: 01-05-2010, 03:41 PM by thefool.)
    (01-05-2010, 02:31 PM)irpsit Wrote: I guess that trusting intuition and only caring about the NOW is the major advice I can share with everybody here.

    That is probably the best way to go about it. I have inquired a lot and asked for very specific guidance from my guides regarding this and have not received anything specific so far. This makes me believe that I just need to do what I do and not worry about how it is going to go down. We should just trust our guidance and believe that we will be guided as necessary when it is necessary.
    (01-05-2010, 02:31 PM)irpsit Wrote: Finally, I personally assume with openness but skepticism the destructive scenario. I have had dreams that show me some dramatic planetary changes but part of the society continuing into 2020. I refuse to drive my life through negative visions, even if they are a transformation, and even if they are my own visions! Suffering by antecipation is unnecessary. I prefer to live in the moment of NOW, and following only my INTUITION. And looking for the meaning of the moment: the expression of self, the service to others, the share of love, joy and peace.

    Trust that everything is exactly as it is supposed to be.

    I think that suffering is an interpretation from the mind. We assume that a dying person is suffering but in reality she may be just moving on to bigger and bettter things in overall life. The suffering is the result of attachment and clinging to the present form and thinking that is all there is. We live in limitation and assume that limitation is the world. Even for the loved one remaining in 3rd density, they will move on as necessary in their BEST interest. Trust that everything is exactly as it is supposed to be. You will only seem to be seperated in space/time illusion but in time/space illusion you are always joined with your loved ones... (remember we are all one)

    Trust that everything is exactly as it is supposed to be.

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    01-29-2010, 11:24 AM
    But we will still have 2D animals, I'm thinking. I can't imagine not having a canine companion, but maybe in 4D I won't think like that.

    (09-02-2009, 03:13 AM)gharghur Wrote: Fun post, since we will not likely know until it occurs. There are many potential timelines. Humanity is the creator of its near future. Intuitively I envision a gradual progression. RA mentions the shift may create some tears on the surface (earthquakes), but overall it's a minor event for Earth as it's already in 4D energy. After the clock strikes 11:11 on 12/21/2012 3D lifeforms will no longer incarnate on this planet, and the current 3D undergraduate lifeforms will be gradually phased out. Within several generations the population on the planet will be greatly reduced. The 4D incarnates, which have been already born since about 1990 and the newborns, will gradually, over time, activate their 4D abilities. We all have these abilities, but they are inactive until we are responsible enough to handle them. With the lifespan gradually increasing to 90,000 years it may take quite a while before all abilities have been activated. Since consciousness will become the new science many features of the current society will be phased out over time. The 4D abilities that I have been shown examples of, thus far, are: telepathy, levitation, the ability to create food etc. with just thought, and the ability to defend oneself and impede others with a force field. The mind essentially expands and is able to manipulate matter on command. Imagine the chaos if we had these abilities now. It will be a very interesting experience. But we still have almost 40 months to help the neutrals make a choice and increase the harvest. After that my work is done. Namaste

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    01-29-2010, 12:43 PM
    (01-29-2010, 11:24 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: But we will still have 2D animals, I'm thinking. I can't imagine not having a canine companion, but maybe in 4D I won't think like that.

    Yes there will still be 2D creatures. Only 3D will go into potentiation.

    (09-02-2009, 03:13 AM)gharghur Wrote: After the clock strikes 11:11 on 12/21/2012 3D lifeforms will no longer incarnate on this planet, and the current 3D undergraduate lifeforms will be gradually phased out. Within several generations the population on the planet will be greatly reduced.

    And how may I ask are there going to be a further "several generations" 3D if none can incarnate? Those that remain after 12/21/12 must become unviable or be 4D activated within the lifetime. Since a very small number is to be 4D activated, this means a reduction of the population by either gradual or some severe non traumatic means. If it takes 100 years, that will be 100 years that 4D entities will wait, because 4D will remain hidden until 3D is into potentiation.

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    01-29-2010, 01:11 PM
    (09-02-2009, 03:13 AM)gharghur Wrote: After the clock strikes 11:11 on 12/21/2012 3D lifeforms will no longer incarnate on this planet, and the current 3D undergraduate lifeforms will be gradually phased out. Within several generations the population on the planet will be greatly reduced.

    And how may I ask are there going to be a further "several generations" 3D if none can incarnate? Those that remain after 12/21/12 must become unviable or be 4D activated within the lifetime. Since a very small number is to be 4D activated, this means a reduction of the population by either gradual or some severe non traumatic means. If it takes 100 years, that will be 100 years that 4D entities will wait, because 4D will remain hidden until 3D is into potentiation.
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    After 2012 the 3D's on this planet will continue to live out their life cycle, with the continued opportunity for advancement to 4D. Their children will be 4D.
    Why do you think that 4D will remain hidden until all the 3D's are gone? That's a choice of a 4D social complex not a requirement. In fact, I do not believe they will remain hidden. As their numbers grow they will feel more comfortable in revealing their natural appearance. Many are already here.
    If you seek this revelation, and convince those that appear you are not a threat, they will reveal themselves. Over 10 years ago, three 4D children appeared before me. They must be young adults by now.
    namaste

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    01-29-2010, 01:37 PM (This post was last modified: 01-29-2010, 01:39 PM by Peregrinus.)
    (01-29-2010, 01:11 PM)gharghur Wrote: After 2012 the 3D's on this planet will continue to live out their life cycle, with the continued opportunity for advancement to 4D. Their children will be 4D.
    Why do you think that 4D will remain hidden until all the 3D's are gone? That's a choice of a 4D social complex not a requirement. In fact, I do not believe they will remain hidden. As their numbers grow they will feel more comfortable in revealing their natural appearance. Many are already here.
    If you seek this revelation, and convince those that appear you are not a threat, they will reveal themselves. Over 10 years ago, three 4D children appeared before me. They must be young adults by now.
    namaste

    Duel activated children are already being born, ready for 4D. Why do I think 4D will remain hidden? Because both Ra and Q'uo has said that it will, and the reason for that it is that it disturbing to 3D entities to be in the midst of 4D entities and thus is the reason for potientiation/activation or vice versa of one density or the other. Its not that 3D and 4D cannot co-exist; it is physically possible without a doubt. The detrimental effect on 3D entities negates any advantage/usefulness of it. These are the reasons 3D will be somewhere else after the harvest and not continue on earth for another cycle.

    Oh, there is no 4D social complex until about half way through the 4D cycle, thus it is of no choice of the 4D entities as to what they will desire for this purpose. This is up to the Sub-Logos as per the design.

    Does that make sense to you brother?

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    01-29-2010, 02:57 PM
    Hi Peregrinus,
    Yes, even your previous comments in this regard have made sense.
    It is not necessary that we agree. It is necessary, however, that we read what is written, and not interpret anything more other than what is stated.
    My recollection of the Ra material is that 4D chooses to remain invisible to 3D as to not interfere in their development. After the 4D's become a majority, on earth, I can't see how that would be considered interference. Especially since the remaining 3D's would most likely be parents of 4D's, and have already recognized their children as having special powers.
    Do not remember Ra stating that all 3D's will leave the planet after harvest.
    Have not read Q'uo. My understanding comes mostly from the Ra material and my Higher-self.
    Yes, you are correct. A social memory complex collectively gathers about half-way through the 4D experience. Did not state otherwise. Only stated that a 4D social complex chooses to remain invisible to 3D. They chose to appear in the experience I noted.
    namaste

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    01-29-2010, 03:13 PM (This post was last modified: 01-29-2010, 03:15 PM by Peregrinus.)
    With channelling having been done many times a years since the Ra sessions ended (for several hundred sessions), there is an enormous wealth of information, and though I like to quote Ra, much has changed and has been noted as such by Q'uo (which is of course 1/3 Ra's input). Being that Ra has such a difficult time with understanding this 3D environments inharmonious way, the combined "Principle of Q'uo" does a much better job at relating.

    If you enjoy(ed) the Ra Materials, then I would suggest you will enjoy all the sessions after that as well. They seem to me to be more of a personal nature, with more feeling and understanding. I'm not saying Ra was uncaring... just that the way it was trance channelled give that distorted feel.

    Here is a link where one may begin --->>> Transcripts. Enjoy!

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    01-29-2010, 03:17 PM
    Hi!
    We will consider reading Q'uo this year.
    namaste

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    01-29-2010, 05:34 PM
    Thank you. Indeed, things are changing ever more rapidly so it may be possible that some of the older stuff to have changed as well.

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    01-29-2010, 08:03 PM
    Q'uo, January 1, 2006
    Quote:It is very likely—and we are looking only at probability vortices, not actual predictions—that your people will not only be able to live out their current incarnations here but that there will be enough energy within third density to maintain third-density bodies and the energies of evolution, in terms of the spirit, for some of your time, perhaps as many as a hundred or a hundred and fifty of your years.

    Note they say "of evolution, in terms of the spirit", not in terms of the physical.

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    01-31-2010, 09:53 PM
    Peregrinus, if I understand you, I would have to say I disagree with the details of your interpretation of the Q'uo material. You said in a previous post that those who remain after the harvest event must be either unviable or 4D activated within the lifetime. It is my understanding from the Ra and Q'uo material that it is not possible to move from 3D to 4D within a physical incarnation. A 3D entity must first die, be harvested, and then reincarnate as 4D in the next life.

    Also, in the Q'uo statement that you quoted, it says that:

    Quote:...that your people will not only be able to live out their current incarnations here but that there will be enough energy within third density to maintain third-density bodies and the energies of evolution, in terms of the spirit, for some of your time, perhaps as many as a hundred or a hundred and fifty of your years.

    This tells me that all 3D entities who are living at the time of the harvest (which is pretty much everyone alive on Earth right now except for the relatively small percentage who are dual activated) will live out their incarnations. So, this means there will not be some event that kills tons of people. Once the harvest occurs, the people who are born after it will be dual activated 3D and 4D (they can't be all 4D because there will be 3D entities still in incarnation on Earth). Once the last of the purely 3D entities (me and probably the majority of people on this forum: remember wanderers are purely 3D) have died from old age, then it seems to me that purely 4D entities would be able to incarnate then. I don't recall ever reading any Q'uo material that states what happens to the dual activated entities once all 3D entities are gone. Do they turn purely 4D? I suspect that they remain dual activated until they die, just as 3D entities remain 3D until they die.

    So this leads to a very gradual replacement of entities on this planet.

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    01-31-2010, 11:05 PM (This post was last modified: 01-31-2010, 11:09 PM by Peregrinus.)
    You know colorado, I think I give up on this one. It's difficult to get a clear picture from the muddy answers our elders give us.... they talk like politicians when it comes to the harvest, smoke and mirrors... and all I ever hear or end up with is opinion and conjecture, including my own... I'd love for someone to know conclusively and tell us... it's like every time I think I have the answer nailed down, it floats away... Dodgy

    I just want to know if its a waste of time to buy Xmas presents for 2012 or not! lol

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    01-31-2010, 11:15 PM
    Wisdom is not of this density.
    On that I think we can all agree.

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    02-01-2010, 12:29 AM (This post was last modified: 02-01-2010, 12:32 AM by colorado.)
    yeah, the details of the harvest are very muddy from the material we have to work with. All I can say for sure from the material is that we won't all drop dead when the harvest happens. We will have the opportunity to live out our incarnations, and be harvested after we die. So, I think the answer to your christmas present question is yes, buy themBigSmile

    But then if you really want get your head twisted, think back to the Ra and Q'uo material that states that 4D is not a chemical body. I can't even imagine what that would be. Is it even physical in the sense we think of physical? If it isn't, then how is it that purely 4D entities could be birthed from a physical 3D or dual activated 3D and 4D body? The complications seem endless.

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    02-01-2010, 12:37 AM
    (01-31-2010, 11:15 PM)gharghur Wrote: Wisdom is not of this density.
    On that I think we can all agree.

    It sure isn't when they won't give us a straight up answer!

    (02-01-2010, 12:29 AM)colorado Wrote: yeah, the details of the harvest are very muddy from the material we have to work with. All I can say for sure from the material is that we won't all drop dead when the harvest happens. We will have the opportunity to live out our incarnations, and be harvested after we die. So, I think the answer to your christmas present question is yes, buy themBigSmile

    Ach, my Scots blood was thinking that dropping dead would be a great way to save a few bucks!!!!

    (02-01-2010, 12:29 AM)colorado Wrote: But then if you really want get your head twisted, think back to the Ra and Q'uo material that states that 4D is not a chemical body. I can't even imagine what that would be. Is it even physical in the sense we think of physical? If it isn't, then how is it that purely 4D entities could be birthed from a physical 3D or dual activated 3D and 4D body? The complications seem endless.

    Ah so we do have to die! Perhaps they want us to flip a coin... heads, buy Xmas presents, tails, a nice bottle of scotch. I'm not drinking until then, but since I may not have another taste of scotch for the next 5 billion years, I may have to invest!

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    02-01-2010, 12:43 AM
    well, Q'uo specifically said we will live out our incarnations. So, I am just trying to piece together a possibility given the material we have. 4D not being chemical might not take place until a long way into 4D. There are a lot of possibilities regarding that matter. The only way to know how it works out is to ask Q'uo though.Dodgy

    I just can't wait until ~20 years after the harvest so I can see and work with the new 4D people on Earth. It seems so exciting.

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    (02-01-2010, 12:43 AM)colorado Wrote: well, Q'uo specifically said we will live out our incarnations. So, I am just trying to piece together a possibility given the material we have. 4D not being chemical might not take place until a long way into 4D. There are a lot of possibilities regarding that matter. The only way to know how it works out is to ask Q'uo though.Dodgy

    I just can't wait until ~20 years after the harvest so I can see and work with the new 4D people on Earth. It seems so exciting.

    You are already in 4D.. wanderers are channels for higher density knowledge/vibration. That's why we're here, remember? Smile Brothers and sisters of sorrow.
    3D can potentially be a much better place. Let's make heaven on earth!

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    02-01-2010, 10:52 AM
    It makes me wonder about the birthing process. If there no longer are 3D entities on the Earth, then birth must happen in a different manner. Since the first 4D will have to be born somehow.

    It is all fascinating, but I tend to live in the moment, and so for me, a sense of timelessness surrounds me to where it doesn't matter how long anything takes.

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    02-02-2010, 03:00 PM
    Ok, so my higher self gave me the answers I sought about the harvest, confirming I already knew the answers but pointing me in the right direction. Why I become confused and forget... would be the purpose of the veil...

    I wish to make clear that this is the reality I understand, and may not be in resonance with your reality. Use discernment when reading this, and make your own decisions as to what you expect/understand.

    The harvest short and simple.
    4.5 billion years ago, Earth is 1D, 2D, activated
    75,000 years ago 3D is activated, 4D potentiated
    3D evolution of spirits begins using bipedal ape body
    Evolution continues with additions of 3 major and nineteen minor influxes of spirits (with compatible DNA)
    75,000 year cycle ends Dec 21 2012
    Earth has worked towards 4D activation. The activation is in the vibrational change from 8 to 13 as per the Shumann resonance. Earth waits for us now though has not potentiated 3D yet. Potentiation will occur Dec 21 2012 when the lateral timeline ends.
    Though Dec 21, 2012 is the final cutoff for harvest, 3D will continue to exist though in time/space, not space/time, due to the efforts of those on the planet at this time and for some time in the recent past. There will be no bodies laying around, no empty buildings etc. These things will simply cease to be due to the vibrational change as 3D completely phases out over the next 100 to 150 years. Those with duel activated bodies or those positively oriented and able to withstand the rapid DNA change will remain on earth in 4D time/space (inner planes), not having to go through the harvest process. The remainder of spirits, both positive and negatively oriented, will enter the 3D inner planes and be harvested.

    There is nothing to fear in any of this, for it is perfect, as you are, as I am, as all are, as all is. Love and light

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    02-02-2010, 03:36 PM (This post was last modified: 02-02-2010, 03:38 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    Don't forget that events/pulses are happening following the fibonacci sequence toward the 2012 zero-point, as some call it. They are getting closer to each other by the 1.618 ratio. David Wilcock goes into fantastic detail about this in the 2012 Enigma video.


    Pere, you bring up a fascinating point. People's bodies won't be lying around, so does this mean that 3D atoms will simply dissociate? Just as particles become waves when converting from space/time to time/space?

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    Well, we will all know when we get there... asking from the backseat... "Are we there, Yet!" will not bring the destination any closer or reveal the nature of the journey before one reaches the end of the journey and the beginning of a new journey. It is interesting as we, Humanity and Gaia are co-creating the journey together... and as many of the Friends in The Sky have said... "This has never been done before... all eyes are on the Humans and the Earth/Gaia."

    It will be interesting that is for sure. The big sorting hat of the Universe... Where will we end up?

    In antiquity there are reports of Humans ascending... in broad daylight in full view of their villagers--- They just simply disappeared leaving only their clothes behind... very much like Obi Wan Kenobi from Star Wars... But in other instances this was not the case. The body stayed behind and the villagers saw an exact replica of the body walking around and talking... as in the case of the Christ and others... so one just does not know... and also... the Hologram may be kept up and running to keep the remaining 3D people from freaking out... I feel as if Earth will have a peaceful 3D transition... and 3D will be peaceful and joyous.

    Love--

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    02-02-2010, 08:07 PM
    (02-02-2010, 04:52 PM)fairyfarmgirl Wrote: I feel as if Earth will have a peaceful 3D transition... and 3D will be peaceful and joyous.

    Of this I agree, but did you mean "and 3D will peaceful and joyous" before the harvest, or "and 4D will be peaceful and joyous"?

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    02-02-2010, 10:12 PM
    I believe after the harvest this 3D Earth will go through a period of learning through peace and joy as the hologram dies out which I believe will be over several hundred years.

    http://www.starsoundings.com/PsCurrentEvents.html

    fairyfarmgirl

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    #86
    02-03-2010, 12:38 PM
    I heard it put well about the harvest, and I feel that I have been doing it too.

    "Quit concentrating on the wrapping and just wait for the present".

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    03-14-2010, 02:15 PM
    (09-21-2009, 06:07 PM)Eneary Wrote: In my opinion, the way Creation is "designed", it will be truly elegant in the greatest possible meaning of the word. What I mean by this, is, that around 2012 (2011-2013) there will be physical changes to the surface of the Earth, which will appear to be a form of disaster (earthquakes, etc.). This disaster will be THE catalyst for the decision to be made. It shall spur those who have yet to choose between STS and STO to make a choice. The end result of the disasters would be that everyone who has chosen STO and is Harvestable will, from their synchronicities, live. Everyone else, those who chose STS for 4th density as well as those who still need more experiences from third density, will (to us) die. How else do you account for allowing their spirits/consciousnesses to leave the Earth, while giving a good reason as to why those ready for fourth density incarnation are alive now? It is elegant, for everything that happens will serve multiple purposes, but on the surface only appear to be "destructive" or "constructive".

    Just think of what happens in any disaster scenario, from Titanic to The Day After Tomorrow. Some people push others out of their way, step on them, and even shoot them just so they can get out alive. Other people, however, decide the best thing to do is to work as a group so that they can all get out alive. The difference is, in this case, choosing STO will cause you to survive. Choosing STS, in this case, means you ultimately die (so you can incarnate on a fourth density STS planet). Not ready to choose, you would (by default) stay on the ship when it sinks, thus dying as well (so you may incarnate in a different world that is third density).

    Hello and wow. That is the closest thing I have read to what I believe. RA speaks of dual activation 3/4 and I believe that this is the exception to (the earth will no longer sustain 3d life) I feel great truth in your statements. Life is good. Love is free. Bye for now.

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    03-14-2010, 07:56 PM
    (03-14-2010, 02:15 PM)Brad N Wrote:
    (09-21-2009, 06:07 PM)Eneary Wrote: In my opinion, the way Creation is "designed", it will be truly elegant in the greatest possible meaning of the word. What I mean by this, is, that around 2012 (2011-2013) there will be physical changes to the surface of the Earth, which will appear to be a form of disaster (earthquakes, etc.). This disaster will be THE catalyst for the decision to be made. It shall spur those who have yet to choose between STS and STO to make a choice. The end result of the disasters would be that everyone who has chosen STO and is Harvestable will, from their synchronicities, live. Everyone else, those who chose STS for 4th density as well as those who still need more experiences from third density, will (to us) die. How else do you account for allowing their spirits/consciousnesses to leave the Earth, while giving a good reason as to why those ready for fourth density incarnation are alive now? It is elegant, for everything that happens will serve multiple purposes, but on the surface only appear to be "destructive" or "constructive".

    Just think of what happens in any disaster scenario, from Titanic to The Day After Tomorrow. Some people push others out of their way, step on them, and even shoot them just so they can get out alive. Other people, however, decide the best thing to do is to work as a group so that they can all get out alive. The difference is, in this case, choosing STO will cause you to survive. Choosing STS, in this case, means you ultimately die (so you can incarnate on a fourth density STS planet). Not ready to choose, you would (by default) stay on the ship when it sinks, thus dying as well (so you may incarnate in a different world that is third density).

    Hello and wow. That is the closest thing I have read to what I believe. RA speaks of dual activation 3/4 and I believe that this is the exception to (the earth will no longer sustain 3d life) I feel great truth in your statements. Life is good. Love is free. Bye for now.

    This is congruent with the Unity messages that I have been recieving and lucid dreaming I have been having... the setting is not that of a diasaster but of great haste... and cooperation and despair at the others who are unwilling to do so...
    fairyfarmgirl

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    04-02-2010, 03:57 AM
    (01-01-2010, 03:33 PM)gharghur Wrote: 2012 is all about Love, not fear

    Everything is vibration, waves, cycles and frequency. All of the universe vibrates at various resonant frequencies. The various densities vibrate in ascending frequencies from the lower to the higher. As the third density earth makes the transition into fourth density it is raising its resonant frequency. This is occurring as the sun is transiting the center point of the galaxy and the earth is moving from the pisces age of separation, to the aquarius age of enlightenment.
    The transition from age to age is known as the precession cycle: 25,800 years. On earth we have experienced three of these precession cycles while in third density: the 75,000 year 3D cycle. If we divide the 25,800 year precession cycle by 360 degrees, each degree (wave) takes 72 years to traverse. About the time of a normal lifespan.
    All waves and cycles start at a lull, build to a crest, and then wane to a lull. These waves take 72 years to unfold while the entire cycle takes 25,800 years. If we then use 2012 as the center point of the last wave during the transition from 3D to 4D. The beginning of this last wave began in 1976, will peak in 2012, and then end in 2048. From 1976 to 2048, lull to peak to lull, completes the 72 year wave.
    RA stated in the early 1980's the earth was already into 4D. Correct, the transition started in 1976.
    Mayans proclaim that the transition period starts when a blue star appears in the sky and ends when a red star appears, and this period should takes about seven years. On Oct 24th, 2007 the blue star appeared when a comet exploded in the sky forming an image that was larger than the sun. They are now expecting the red star to appear by 2014/15. Seven years is about one tenth of the 72 year wave. Their prophecy fits.
    David Wilcock is honed into the 2012 date as well, as many of us are.
    Overall, this last wave of 3D has been unfolding since 1976, and will continue to unfold into 2048. The year 2012 is the crest of the wave that has been building since 1976. When the clock strikes 11:11 on Dec 21st 2012 the opportunity for third density entities to incarnate on this planet will end. Only fourth density entities, and above, will be allowed to incarnate into new human lifeforms. The remaining third density beings, already here, will continue to live out their lifespan. Just as all first and second density entities on this planet. The trees and animals will not be immediately terminated, nor will the human entities. Earth is entering a density of unconditional love. Why would it start that density by terminating lifeforms? Not much love in that is there? The remaining third density humans will be aided by the existing and new fourth density humans in making the choice of STO or STS. The Harvest will end when the last harvestable 3D entity terminates its bodily form. Hope this helps.

    This feels like a good moment to chime in.

    Even science is starting to under stand this. They have what they call M theory, or String theory as they struggle with their own version of the understanding of the Law of One. Thousands of tiny strings that vibrate that create the various atoms that make the molecules that make us. Just like in the sand video example, as the energy increases, the sand changes form, so, I can infer, that as the energy increases that is coming in, the molecules change form too. There was a transition between sand shapes as the frequency went up, That seems to be the period we are in, as the frequency gets higher, things become more dense, and the patterns that make us become more complex. It may even explain why I sometimes hear about DNA becoming more complex.

    Also, it seems when Ra was discussing the difficulties in our transition from 3D to 4D, I got the impression of rocks on the table as they change the frequency of the sand. The stand will still change, but rocks on it will hamper the pattern. individuals leaving this world for the various reasons removes the rocks, and allows the pattern to take its natural shape. My view of the rock as I think about this now, is individuals who have not been refined enough and still need more time to loosen them selves up to become sand so they can vibrate with the patterns. (personal perspective)

    Another persecutive I have heard in some channeled material from an entity known as Bashar states that, (paraphrased, you can find him on Youtube) our reality, the illusion around us, reflects us, reflects our consciousness, so, the reality we experience as we move forward may be a reflection of us. So, if you believe it will be a smooth peaceful transition, then that may very be what you experience. If you believe it will be an abrupt, harsh type change, that may be what you experience. Your focus and intent can define your reality.

    I also find this personally fascinating:
    Quote:All waves and cycles start at a lull, build to a crest, and then wane to a lull. These waves take 72 years to unfold while the entire cycle takes 25,800 years. If we then use 2012 as the center point of the last wave during the transition from 3D to 4D. The beginning of this last wave began in 1976, will peak in 2012, and then end in 2048. From 1976 to 2048, lull to peak to lull, completes the 72 year wave.
    RA stated in the early 1980's the earth was already into 4D. Correct, the transition started in 1976.

    My sign is Libra (the scales, balance), and I was born 1975. This all will occur for me personally at near the balance, mid point of my life, around 2012. (assuming I live in this body to be about 72'ish...) Was just a personal observation that I find intriguing.

    These are my observations, others milage can and will vary. Thanks.

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    04-02-2010, 11:33 AM
    Hi Quade,

    May your vehicle give you much future mileage.

    namaste,
    tony

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