Are we stuck here?

[AnthroHeart]

I wonder if people's thoughts on harvest have changed since a year ago.
It would be difficult to hang around till all are harvested, since there are always new souls,
and one would never be able to progress past 3D if they were waiting for everyone else to be harvestable.

I do get moments of peace, like I don't have to worry if I've made it or not. Others on this forum have helped
me through their words to stay encouraged. Now having to redo 4D, that would be something.

I can't imagine what starting 4D is like. You're like a kid, with so many abilities, but have to learn to temper them,
and hone them. I can see a lot of laughs happening as an inexperienced person has some strangeness happen
as a result of learning the ropes so to speak.

[Unbound]

To my understand we are already in the beginnings of 4D are we not?

[AnthroHeart]

That means everyone alive now is harvestable?

I think we could be in beginning of 4D like you say. Hard to tell the difference. The veil is still very much real to me.

But the prospect of that is fascinating.

[Unbound]

Aha Well I've sure had some intense changes this year!

[AnthroHeart]

I've been definitely feeling dense energies in my heart chakra. But they don't feel all lovey/dovey. They tend to cause me a bit of anxiety.

And yeah, back in October the flow of energy became too much for me causing a mental breakdown.

I think we have to deal as much with our darkness now as our light. That's been what I've dealt with.

[Unbound]

Yes, I was telling people for awhile in the latter half of last year that we were all going to be facing our Shadow soon. I really see what I meant now!

[AnthroHeart]

Yeah, I am amazed at how controlling I can be when I went through what I would call a simulation. An experience I thought was real, where I was separating out the STO and STS polarities of entities in my creation within me. I mean I was promoting separation rather than unity. I had the experience of violating all their free will. Mind you this was a real experience to me. I am still confounded by what I am capable of doing. After that I realized I don't want my own universe. I can't keep it in balance.

Hope these experiences didn't affect my polarity. I honestly thought I was doing a good thing.

[Aureus]

To my understand we are already in the beginnings of 4D are we not?

I would have to agree to some degree. I've noticed the vibration of my nearest friends change. It is as if the collective consciousness is tuning in to a higher frequency.

Thoughts of freedom, expansion and spiritual growth is spreading. Also I've noticed things I think about end up in conversations more often.

People begin to express their inner self. Lies comes to the surface at a staggering pace. If you enjoy hiding, things will get tough

[AnthroHeart]

While I'm noticing a few more catalysts coming along, I'm more at peace with them. I've made some pretty crappy financial decisions in the past (the fool and his money are soon parted sort of thing).

I like what you stay about it will get hard if you enjoy hiding. I used to get lazy when doing things, but I think this is sort of a wakeup call.

Are you glad about the somewhat steady pace of growth, rather than having a sudden transition where we have to deal with everything at once? I can't imagine what it would be like if suddenly every flaw within me became totally apparant to everyone else.

I'm going to work on being more truthful. And not being so attached to things I've been could be helpful as well.

My thought is that if we create something in 4D and we're attached to it, it could cause some sort of feedback between us as creator and that thing. A pulling on one another that probably isn't very comfortable. I'm not sure though.

To my understand we are already in the beginnings of 4D are we not?

I would have to agree to some degree. I've noticed the vibration of my nearest friends change. It is as if the collective consciousness is tuning in to a higher frequency.

Thoughts of freedom, expansion and spiritual growth is spreading. Also I've noticed things I think about end up in conversations more often.

People begin to express their inner self. Lies comes to the surface at a staggering pace. If you enjoy hiding, things will get tough

[Aureus]

I'm not knowledgable enough to take a solid position about the transition being instant vs. gradual. But I have noticed changes. I really can't make out if whether this is normal phenomenon arising from the special circumstances such as the time being right between cycles.

Gemini Wolf, it's good to be critical of oneself but don't take it too far. You have a good heart!

I just think that we are moving toward eachother. The walls that separate us are crumbling down and step by step we tune into each other's energy fields. We play a big part in this. We are the ones that anchor light into this collective that has been ruled by darkness for quite some time. The lies are falling away, and together we find ourselves searching for the Light. Here we are, ready to share our love and wisdom with the masses that just now are awakening.

[neutral333]

Do we have to repeat 4th and 5th density all over again? Is it possible some of us are on earth for the 2nd or 3rd lifetime now?

Ra was right when they said the window would open in 2001. I think the closing in 2011 has been delayed. We might be stuck for a bit. A threshold will be crossed when enough people wake up.

[Avocado]

I've been definitely feeling dense energies in my heart chakra. But they don't feel all lovey/dovey. They tend to cause me a bit of anxiety.

And yeah, back in October the flow of energy became too much for me causing a mental breakdown.

I think we have to deal as much with our darkness now as our light. That's been what I've dealt with.

WHOA! I totally feel you on this. I have an anxiety related to a very physical feeling I get in my solar plexus. Crazy!

... I think I'm scared of people. I don't want to socialize and I feel like I forgot how. I'm pretty sure it is related to my involvement in fringe knowledge. I was high for a while after awakening but since then I've just been hangin with my shadow buddy. He's a close friend

[AnthroHeart]

When things start to go wrong, I tend to remember that it is all illusion, and that being here in 3D is actually a gift.
I try to see things with a sense of humor.

Yeah, I get the very dense feeling in my solar plexus at times as well. Used to scare me because I remember Ra talking about how negative beings have an unusally dense solar plexus.

[Avocado]

An illusion albeit a persistent one of course. It's easy for me to intellectually know this but to feel it is a tad more difficult. Reading NDEs helped me feel this more as the Ra material only did so much. Next time I'm in an uncomfortable social situation I will try to remember this because that is when the veil is thickest for me and when I tend to be most forgetful. Humor is definitely part of my healing as the serious portions of myself have been prominent lately.

I'm really glad you feel better about your solar plexus. It's incredibly gratifying to know(feel) you can never be lost.

[AnthroHeart]

Interesting. I was just watching a life after death video yesterday, from a buddhist's perspective. He mentions how after death it's possible to create your own hell if you don't keep your thoughts straight. That's why it's important for us to work on love and our thoughts in the moment.

The illusion is persistent for sure. Ra says that 4D has an even denser illusion.

I know I can't listen to this without having an emotional reaction: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMvppW6kfIE

It actually humbles me.

[Plenum]

breaking news:

[AnthroHeart]

I think you got it right on, but I don't even remember why I asked this.

sometimes a nice friendly reminder is a comforting thing specially when all you wanna do is go home. like me. it was a beautiful reminder. I hope I'm worthy of it too. Otherwise I'll be just as happy going to 4th. Anything to not repeat duality. hahahaha.

You're right there Blatz. I want to go home too. But I don't want to leave those I care about behind.

I'm not sure but I think we're probably in the beginning of 4th.

Anyway I think it's the best time to be alive. We have the benefit of substantial spiritual evolvement because of the veil (though fading as it is), and the quicker manifestation of 4D without immediate manifestation. So it's like we've got some spiritual training wheels.

I personally like the fact that I can do here in 5 minutes what might take years or centuries to do in 6D.

[Daydreamin]

Do we have to repeat 4th and 5th density all over again? Is it possible some of us are on earth for the 2nd or 3rd lifetime now?

Do you feel the need or will you feel the need to relive the 4th and 5th density?

As for how many times we've been on Earth before IMO I'd say we've all been here a minimum of a few hundred times at the least.

Keep in mind some of those incarnations may have been as a water molecule, to a bug, a tree, a flower, dog, cat, etc.

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To my understand we are already in the beginnings of 4D are we not?

I believe 4D is non-physical

IMO, most of us are living in 5D. WE just need to re-member our abilities and most importantly how to use them.

[AnthroHeart]

My understanding is the beginning of 4D is physical (I'm seeing what appears to be the beginnings of it), and then moves toward nonphysical.
In it, we are storytellers, and the world around us is our story.
We create/tell it with our vibration.
It's pretty easy. The story pretty much tells itself when you hold the loving vibration.