Genetic manipulation and crossbreeding

[Shin'Ar]

Have any of you ever had the Anunnaki discussion?

It is said in the Sumerian records, and corroborated in many other ancient records, that the human was interbred with aliens(gods), and that they may have also genetically altered our DNA.

I know it is spoken of in the Ra material, but this is not the LoL thread.

I am more curious about your own perosnal thoughts around the possibility.

[Unbound]

It just struck me that the "human interbred with the Gods" seems to be a rather intriguing allegory of the concept of "Spirit Descending in to Matter".

To my understand, and in my beliefs, the experiment of the human genome is something that was constructed and was not evolved completely naturally. Whether or not this was done for good or bad, with negative or positive intent, I daresay I'll likely never know.

[51/49]

there is some quote in Ra relating to "the one that can no longer be named" of 5th density (at the time) .. we are apparently shaped in "their" image.

but then there is the dna manipulation quote , that talks about building a stronger body .. but this caused more distortion . *shrug*

[Shin'Ar]

There seems to be increasing evidence that at some point in our past the natural evolution of the human was manipulated. It is spoken of in many records. Many symbols point to it. And it does explain the sudden leap of intellectual ability which led to civilization from out of nowhere.

It does seem implausible that the primitive hunter gatherer using stone tools suddenly became able to create civilizations. Intervention is almost undeniable.

[Unbound]

There's a book called Fingerprints of the Gods which discusses this in fair depth. Most notably being about "spontaneous advanced civilization", such as the Sumerians, Egyptians, and Olmecs.

Personally, I don't think it's a major point except to help identify the fact that the "official story" is full of plot holes, and that humans still have mysteries within themselves to explore. There likely was intervention, but to my understanding that's not so unusual in the universe.

[51/49]

18.15 Questioner: Can you tell me what these genetic changes were and how they were brought about?

Ra: I am Ra. Some of these genetic changes were in a form similar to what you call the cloning process. Thus, entities incarnated in the image of the Yahweh entities. The second was a contact of the nature you know as sexual, changing the mind/body/spirit complex through the natural means of the patterns of reproduction devised by the intelligent energy of your physical complex.



18.20 Questioner: When did Yahweh act to perform the genetic changes?

Ra: I am Ra. The Yahweh group worked with those of the planet you call Mars 75000 years ago in what you would call the cloning process. There are differences, but they lie in the future of your time/space continuum and we cannot break the free will Law of Confusion.

The 2600, approximately, time was the second time—we correct ourselves: 3600—approximately, the time of attempts by those of the Orion group during this cultural complex; this was a series of encounters in which the ones called Anak were impregnated with the new genetic coding by your physical complex means so that the organisms would be larger and stronger.

something on the advancements of Atlantis

The Atlantean race was a very conglomerate social complex which began to form approximately 31,000 years in the past of your space/time continuum illusion. It was a slow growing and very agrarian one until approximately 15,000 of your years ago. It reached quickly a high technological understanding which caused it to be able to use intelligent infinity in an informative manner. We may add that they used intelligent energy as well, manipulating greatly the natural influxes of the indigo or pineal ray from divine or infinite energy. Thus, they were able to create life forms. This they began to do instead of healing and perfecting their own mind/body/spirit complexes, turning their distortions towards what you may call negative.

[Oldern]

Bashar has been very open about this, and I find myself to believe everything that he is saying. Just search Bashar Annunaki on Youtube, and there will be quite a few sessions about it.

[Bring4th_Austin]

Bashar has been very open about this, and I find myself to believe everything that he is saying. Just search Bashar Annunaki on Youtube, and there will be quite a few sessions about it.

I have also spent a good bit of time listening to Bashar in the past. I have found that nearly everything Bashar relays regarding all of the "transient" material we also see in the Ra material, like the Annunaki (Yahweh), is almost completely in line with what Ra says. The terminology and approach to viewing the situation is different, but they're highly compatible.

[zenmaster]

What does this mean, anyone?:

"There are differences, but they lie in the future of your time/space continuum and we cannot break the free will Law of Confusion."

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I have found that nearly everything Bashar relays regarding all of the "transient" material we also see in the Ra material, like the Annunaki (Yahweh), is almost completely in line with what Ra says. The terminology and approach to viewing the situation is different, but they're highly compatible.

You do realize the that new-age info is widely propagated due to similar interest. It's rare to see non-compatible info, because these hyper-intuitives tend to "go with the flow". Anka reads a lot of this stuff in his off time and tunes into "Bashar" to form it into lucid prose. Wilcock channeled his "guidance system", a self-congratulatory "Ra", and Carla channel's her "guidance system", "Q'uo", in a similar manner.

[Lulu]

Have any of you ever had the Anunnaki discussion?

It is said in the Sumerian records, and corroborated in many other ancient records, that the human was interbred with aliens(gods), and that they may have also genetically altered our DNA.

I know it is spoken of in the Ra material, but this is not the LoL thread.

I am more curious about your own perosnal thoughts around the possibility.

Good topic to discuss, thank you!

I have read about the common thought that the Anannaki half brothers Enlil and Enki (I think they were Ra's wait or was it Anu's sons) they came to earth to mine gold. Enki arrived first but the mining wasn't going too well. Enlil and his half-sister Ninki (sounds like an incestuous family when you read about them) were sent to assist and created via lab manipulation, the alien race of slaves. There is an ancient sumarian image portrayed often which to me does not look like a "lab" of which that is generally claimed. Perhaps this is when the gods looked upon the daughters of man.

The old family tree

David Wilcock discusses another idea of which dna is active as it's own form in our universe. I think that means life can continue to exist, if all else fails first, in a sense. To me it brings to mind the mystery of what are currently being studied as Neutrinos. Because neutrinos are "neutral" sub-particles they are not affected by electromagnetic fields and can travels through great distances of matter.

Perhaps Enili and Ninki have come back in spirit and are influencing those who do the "dna downloads". Though it was done to me as a ritual and I could feel energy raining down, I still don't know what it means exactly except for that it opened a pandoras box for my personal "awakening" if you will.

[Bring4th_Austin]

What does this mean, anyone?:

"There are differences, but they lie in the future of your time/space continuum and we cannot break the free will Law of Confusion."

There's a possible meaning taking the full context:
The Yahweh group worked with those of the planet you call Mars 75000 years ago in what you would call the cloning process. There are differences, but they lie in the future of your time/space continuum and we cannot break the free will Law of Confusion.

I've personally decided that what Ra meant by this is that the process was different from cloning, but could not explain specifically because of future advances within that technology. The syntax seems too poor to really draw a conclusion though.

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I have found that nearly everything Bashar relays regarding all of the "transient" material we also see in the Ra material, like the Annunaki (Yahweh), is almost completely in line with what Ra says. The terminology and approach to viewing the situation is different, but they're highly compatible.

You do realize the that new-age info is widely propagated due to similar interest. It's rare to see non-compatible info, because these hyper-intuitives tend to "go with the flow". Anka reads a lot of this stuff in his off time and tunes into "Bashar" to form it into lucid prose. Wilcock channeled his "guidance system", a self-congratulatory "Ra", and Carla channel's her "guidance system", "Q'uo", in a similar manner.

Yeah, and I understand how the subconscious may absorb something and regurgitate it while channeling without the conscious mind ever being aware.

However, I don't see as much consistency within channeled material as you would suggest. I've never been able to relate any other channel's "Annunaki" to Ra's "Yahweh."

And I also don't completely dismiss it as something Anka gathered in his spare time and had it spat back out by Bashar. But this is only because of my own personal experience with channeling, which has had a profound affect on how I view such material (not that it lends itself to the legitimacy though).

[zenmaster]

What does this mean, anyone?:

"There are differences, but they lie in the future of your time/space continuum and we cannot break the free will Law of Confusion."

There's a possible meaning taking the full context:
The Yahweh group worked with those of the planet you call Mars 75000 years ago in what you would call the cloning process. There are differences, but they lie in the future of your time/space continuum and we cannot break the free will Law of Confusion.

I've personally decided that what Ra meant by this is that the process was different from cloning, but could not explain specifically because of future advances within that technology. The syntax seems too poor to really draw a conclusion though.

Yeah, the syntax through me off, but your take makes sense. That in our future there will be a more appropriate or descriptive concept which can't be used to better describe the process.

And I also don't completely dismiss it as something Anka gathered in his spare time and had it spat back out by Bashar. But this is only because of my own personal experience with channeling, which has had a profound affect on how I view such material (not that it lends itself to the legitimacy though).

The subconscious bias emerges into consciousness through the assistance of a safer or surrogate personality. Now if one was only able to integrate that guidance?

[Unbound]

Beings who do not trust their own innate wisdom need to give themselves a "personality excuse" to utilize that which is already theirs.

[zenmaster]

Beings who do not trust their own innate wisdom need to give themselves a "personality excuse" to utilize that which is already theirs.

The pretentiousness (mostly unconscious perception) required, as part of the acceptable access process (higher vibration, greater power, greater purity) is hilarious at times. The fact that this pretentiousness induces supplication in the audience/circle is even more funny.

[Parsons]

Could this be what got upgraded / messed with around 12k years ago?This may be a missing puzzle piece that has made its way back to us:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17370170
"Human fossils hint at new species"

The remains of what may be a previously unknown human species have been identified in southern China.

The bones, which represent at least five individuals, have been dated to between 11,500 and 14,500 years ago.

One of the reasons for that is that in the science of human evolution or palaeoanthropology, we presently don't have a generally agreed, biological definition for our own species (Homo sapiens), believe it or not. And so this is a highly contentious area,' he told BBC News.

[Parsons]

Questioner: Yes, is our species from different planets? Is there an indigenous Earth species, and are there other species that in ancient times may have interbred with our species on Earth, and is mankind from diverse locations in the solar system or even farther?

I am Q’uo, and am aware of your query, my brother. The population of this planetary sphere is, indeed, from many places located throughout this galaxy. The planet itself has generated its own population as well from its own first and second-density vibratory (inaudible). The number of other sources is sixteen, as other third-density planets have reached the culmination of their seventy-five thousand year third-density cycles and found a portion of the population unpolarized and therefore unable to proceed to fourth density. Thus, these planets have contributed to the population needing further polarization to this planetary sphere, some entering sooner than others and, as you have mentioned, some experiencing the mating or interbreeding with what you would call extraterrestrial sources in order to work with the genetic make-up hoping to aid in the ability to polarize in either the positive or in the negative sense so that the evolutionary process for each may continue beyond this third-density illusion.

[52midnight]

If you go to some of the South American legends you get a picture of "visiting gods" that is notably different from the Egyptian/Sumerian one, though there are similarities. It raises the question as to the possible manifestations of Fourth Density negative entities. Whilst there appear to be hierarchically-organized racial groups selfishly pursuing "high-tech" agenda, there also appear singular individuals of consummate power and dominance. It may be that there exist 4D "Wanderers" of a different sort - extremely potent individuals who have abandoned their racial base and move about in search of opportunities to exercize their energies. Psychologically, they would likely be quite insane by our judgments, completely entrammelled within their own illusion, and on a higher level seeking to escape it. Dalliance with the natives would almost certainly figure in their entertainments.

On the other hand, one of the loveliest stories I've come across is the Japanese story of their advent here on Earth.

One day, high in the Heavens above the blue globe of Earth, a Heavenly Bridge appeared. Across it came two divine spirits, Izanagi and Izanami. Struck by its beauty, they resolved to live upon it for a time. In order to do so, they first had to take form as physical beings. They therefore journeyed to the Pillar of Heaven where their new bodies could be formed. Izanagi walked clockwise around the Pillar, and Izanami walked anticlockwise. When they met on the other side, Izanami, overjoyed by the vision of her husband, exclaimed, "Oh! thou beautiful god!"

This annoyed Izanagi, who complained that Izanami had spoiled the ceremony. As the man, it was his duty to speak first. They therefore returned to the starting-point and retraced their steps. Upon meeting a second time, Izanami restrained herself. Izanagi then spoke, "Oh! thou beautiful goddess!" to which Izanami replied, "Oh! thou beautiful god!"

Their incarnation as human beings was thus achieved and they returned to Earth. Izanagi then stirred the oceans with his Heavenly Jewelled Spear, upon which the oceans heaved forth the Islands of Japan, to which they descended.

Conventional wisdom would have it that this a charming but meaningless story, and nothing more. However, the possibility exists that it is a graphic description of one type of life that inhabits the vast realms between the stars; and of a process by which the multitude of planetary life-forms spread throughout a galaxy, and perhaps beyond. The astonishment of Izanami at Izanagi's beauty suggests that their previous state was an incorporeal one - that they existed as part of a living energy field wandering through space in search of a planet on which to take form.

The journey around the Pillar of Heaven can be viewed in scientific terms as the manifestation of a polarity, since polarity is essential to all manifested existence. In this view of life and evolution, the human genders of male and female are seen as manifestations of a universal principle of procreative polarity. The living energy fields wandering through space are the male principle of a polarity "higher" than the human in the evolutionary scheme, and planetary organisms are the female principle of that same polarity. In the ancient traditions, water is a material manifestation of the desire principle, and the "stirring of the oceans with the Heavenly Jewelled Spear" is quite likely a phallic reference to the arousing of the whole planet's female desire principle by the male principle which ensouls Izanagi. Legends from other traditions around the world also attribute the ability of arousing planetary forces to their "Sky Gods". When you compare the richness and depth of these ancient legends and ideas to today's "scientific" views, the latter seem mean and ignorant by comparison. We've really only begun to scratch the surface of the mysteries of the stars.

[Patrick]

...Whether or not this was done for good or bad, with negative or positive intent, I daresay I'll likely never know.

In this incarnation you mean.