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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Healing Health & Diet Philip Wollen : Animals Should Be Off The Menu

    Thread: Philip Wollen : Animals Should Be Off The Menu


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    #1
    07-01-2012, 09:39 AM
    "Philip was vice president of Citibank, specialising in corporate finance, mergers and acquisitions.

    At age 34, he was rated by Australian Business Magazine in their Top 40 Australian head-hunted executives. At age 40, he witnessed cruelty on such a colossal scale that it affected him profoundly. He decided to give away everything he owned with warm hands, and die broke. 'And so far, we are right on budget,' he jokes.

    Today he devotes his life to children, animals, the environment, the terminally ill, the homeless and the arts. He supports over 500 humanitarian projects in over 40 countries with schools, orphanages, shelters, sanctuaries, clinics, and scholarships.

    In 2005 he received the Order of Australia. In 2007 he was Australian of the Year, Victoria. The Australia Day Council said of him, 'Essentially a private man, Philip Wollen seeks no personal publicity but is not afraid to step into the limelight for a just cause.' "




    On behalf of St James Ethics Centre, the Wheeler Centre,
    The Melbourne Food and Wine Festival, The Age
    The City of Melbourne and the ABC
    All of whom have worked together to make this event possible
    I would like to welcome
    Philip Wollen

    ((Applause))

    "King Lear, late at night on the cliffs asks the blind Earl of Gloucester “How do you see the world?”

    And the blind man Gloucester replies “I see it feelingly”.

    Shouldn’t we all?

    Animals must be off the menu because tonight they are screaming in terror in the slaughterhouse, in crates, and cages. Vile ignoble gulags of despair.

    I heard the screams of my dying father as his body was ravaged by the cancer that killed him. And I realised I had heard these screams before.

    In the slaughterhouse, eyes stabbed out and tendons slashed, on the cattle ships to the Middle East and the dying mother whale as a Japanese harpoon explodes in her brain as she calls out to her calf.

    Their cries were the cries of my father.

    I discovered when we suffer, we suffer as equals.

    And in their capacity to suffer, a dog is a pig is a bear. . . . . . is a boy.

    Meat is the new asbestos – more murderous than tobacco.

    CO2, Methane, and Nitrous Oxide from the livestock industry are killing our oceans with acidic, hypoxic Dead Zones.

    90% of small fish are ground into pellets to feed livestock.

    Vegetarian cows are now the world’s largest ocean predator.

    The oceans are dying in our time. By 2048 all our fisheries will be dead. The lungs and the arteries of the earth.

    Billions of bouncy little chicks are ground up alive simply because they are male.
    Only 100 billion people have ever lived. 7 billion alive today. And we torture and kill 2 billion animals every week.

    10,000 entire species are wiped out every year because of the actions of one species.
    We are now facing the 6th mass extinction in cosmological history.

    If any other organism did this a biologist would call it a virus.

    It is a crime against humanity of unimaginable proportions.

    The world has changed.

    10 years ago Twitter was a bird sound, www was a stuck keyboard, Cloud was in the sky, 4 g was a parking place, Google was a baby burp, Skype was a typo and Al Kider was my plumber.

    Victor Hugo said “there is nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come”.

    Animal Rights is now the greatest Social Justice issue since the abolition of slavery.

    There are over 600 million vegetarians in the world.

    That is bigger than the US, England, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Canada, Australia combined! If we were one nation we would be bigger than the 27 countries in the European Union!!

    Despite this massive footprint, we are still drowned out by the raucous huntin’, shootin’, killin’ cartels who believe that violence is the answer – when it shouldn’t even be a question.

    Meat is a killing industry – animals, us and our economies.

    Medicare has already bankrupted the US. They will need $8 trillion invested in Treasury bills just to pay the interest. It has precisely zero!!

    They could shut every school, army, navy, air force, and Marines, the FBI and CIA – and they still won’t be able to pay for it.

    Cornell and Harvard say’s that the optimum amount of meat for a healthy diet is precisely ZERO.

    Water is the new oil. Nations will soon be going to war for it.

    Underground aquifers that took millions of years to fill are running dry.

    It takes 50,000 litres of water to produce one kilo of beef.

    1 billion people today are hungry. 20 million people will die from malnutrition. Cutting meat by only 10% will feed 100 million people. Eliminating meat will end starvation forever.

    If everyone ate a Western diet, we would need 2 Planet Earths to feed them. We only have one. And she is dying.

    Greenhouse gas from livestock is 50% more than transport . . . . . planes, trains, trucks, cars, and ships.

    Poor countries sell their grain to the West while their own children starve in their arms. And we feed it to livestock. So we can eat a steak? Am I the only one who sees this as a crime? Every morsel of meat we eat is slapping the tear-stained face of a starving child. When I look into her eyes, should I be silent?

    The earth can produce enough for everyone’s need. But not enough for everyone’s greed.

    We are facing the perfect storm.

    If any nation had developed weapons that could wreak such havoc on the planet, we would launch a pre-emptive military strike and bomb it into the Bronze Age.
    But it is not a rogue state. It is an industry.

    The good news is we don’t have to bomb it. We can just stop buying it.
    George Bush was wrong. The Axis of Evil doesn’t run through Iraq, or Iran or North Korea. It runs through our dining tables. Weapons of Mass Destruction are our knives and forks.

    This is the Swiss Army Knife of the future – it solves our environmental, water, health problems and ends cruelty forever.

    The Stone Age didn’t end because we ran out of stones. This cruel industry will end because we run out of excuses.

    Meat is like 1 and 2 cent coins. It costs more to make than it is worth.
    And farmers are the ones with the most to gain. Farming won’t end. It would boom. Only the product line would change. Farmers would make so much money they wouldn’t even bother counting it.

    Governments will love us. New industries would emerge and flourish. Health insurance premiums would plummet. Hospital waiting lists would disappear.

    Hell “We’d be so healthy; we’d have to shoot someone just to start a cemetery!”
    So tonight I have 2 Challenges for the opposition:

    1. Meat causes a wide range of cancers and heart disease. Will they name one disease caused by a vegetarian diet?

    2. I am funding the Earthlings trilogy. If the opposition is so sure of their ground, I challenge them to send the Earthlings DVD to all their colleagues and customers. Go on I DARE YOU.

    Animals are not just other species. They are other nations. And we murder them at our peril.

    The peace map is drawn on a menu. Peace is not just the absence of war. It is the presence of Justice.

    Justice must be blind to race, colour, religion or species. If she is not blind, she will be a weapon of terror. And there is unimaginable terror in those ghastly Guantanamos.

    If slaughterhouses had glass walls, we wouldn’t need this debate.
    I believe another world is possible.

    On a quiet night, I can hear her breathing.

    Let’s get the animals off the menu and out of these torture chambers.

    Please vote tonight for those who have no voice.

    Thank you."

    Russ
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    07-01-2012, 10:47 AM (This post was last modified: 07-01-2012, 10:51 AM by Oldern.)
    "If slaughterhouses had glass walls, we wouldn’t need this debate."

    Exactly.
    Also, if goverment decisions were made with clear and unmodifiable public records available on each transaction and reasoning without every decision and project, hm.

    My question is this, however: what is it that we need to face to realize that our consensus reality is the result of our collective ideas and thinking? Animals should be off the menu, but not because of some ruling or because of a law. Animals should be off the menu because we, one by one, family by family, circles of friends after one each other, realize that we do not need red meat to survive. We are not being attacked. We do not need to kill animals to survive. We are not fighting for our lives every day.

    Removing meat from the menu is an amazing idea, but only if paired in paralell with tons of other inventions and ideas that allows one to relieve, process and face their fears and stress, because otherwise people would just destruct themselves and their environment in new ways, without evolving on.
    ...on the other hand, wtf. Desperate times and desperate measures. Even banning it would be a good idea at this point. (not like the above suggest a banning, just a "stop buying" encouragement.) Everything is a good idea, after all - the question is, who gets to watch the show with all the alternate endings : P

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    07-01-2012, 07:37 PM
    (07-01-2012, 10:47 AM)Oldern Wrote: "If slaughterhouses had glass walls, we wouldn’t need this debate."

    Exactly.
    Also, if goverment decisions were made with clear and unmodifiable public records available on each transaction and reasoning without every decision and project, hm.

    What I see here is an analog of the Veil. The purpose of the veil is to hide what is. This struck me the other day during conversation as to why I accepted someone's opposing position. I accepted his position because he was actually more advanced/balanced than I was.

    Now, it works this way when I scan a persons chakra system. I may see them expressing personality/emotional traits, but seeing the condition of the chakras explains why the traits are expressing in the way they are.

    In a way I then understand why they perceive/emote the way they do, and it becomes acceptable to me in that the friction is only a result of how energy is allowed to flow through them.

    It is like I "see" them, and it changes how I perceive the external emotive persona.
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    People will do bad things if they think nobody will see them.

    The walls of our skin hide from us what takes place when we ingest foods, non foods, or poisons. The ability to hide our feelings and intent allows us to lie or hide our darkness. The walls that hide the suffering of animals allows it to continue as well. There are walls that hide child slavery. There are walls that hide child abuse in orphanages.

    The strongest walls happen to be the walls put up by programmed minds. There is no veil to hide what is, it ends up being a cognitive joke instead.

    As long people are allowed to hide they will continue to use the darkness.
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    07-01-2012, 07:45 PM
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    Great post, Pickle.

    That's inspiring as hell, to see a man who achieved the American Dream and who then woke up and found it to be a nightmare. Proceeded to give away his wealth to relieve suffering and protect the innocent. Bravo!

    Nina Hagen and Lene Lovich - Don't Kill The Animals
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    07-01-2012, 11:05 PM (This post was last modified: 07-01-2012, 11:25 PM by BrownEye.)
    Quote:people would just destruct themselves and their environment in new ways, without evolving on.
    It all seems to be a result of "not seeing" things for what they are.
    Warning! Graphic News Link!
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    07-02-2012, 02:50 AM
    (07-01-2012, 11:05 PM)Pickle Wrote:
    Quote:people would just destruct themselves and their environment in new ways, without evolving on.
    It all seems to be a result of "not seeing" things for what they are.
    Warning! Graphic News Link!

    Exactly.

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    07-02-2012, 03:00 AM
    WOW, at first I just read the text, but now I just watched the video. It's much more powerful!

    There is no response to this. None.

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    07-09-2012, 01:28 PM
    (07-01-2012, 10:47 AM)Oldern Wrote: "If slaughterhouses had glass walls, we wouldn’t need this debate."

    Exactly.
    Also, if goverment decisions were made with clear and unmodifiable public records available on each transaction and reasoning without every decision and project, hm.

    My question is this, however: what is it that we need to face to realize that our consensus reality is the result of our collective ideas and thinking? Animals should be off the menu, but not because of some ruling or because of a law. Animals should be off the menu because we, one by one, family by family, circles of friends after one each other, realize that we do not need red meat to survive. We are not being attacked. We do not need to kill animals to survive. We are not fighting for our lives every day.

    The bolded portion of the above statement was precisely the reason for the discussion in the closed thread, In Regards to Eating Meat, from the vegetarian's point of view. I will add to Oldern's statement that not only red meat is unneeded, but any meat at all. No killing of animals is necessary.
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    07-09-2012, 01:48 PM
    I dont think that -everyone- takes negative actions when they are not being watched...
    This sounds more like the human herd mentality.
    But yes, especially lately, I've been contemplating whether there should really be meat, taken from an otherwide healthy animal, on my plate... It does bother me.


    (07-01-2012, 07:37 PM)Pickle Wrote:
    (07-01-2012, 10:47 AM)Oldern Wrote: "If slaughterhouses had glass walls, we wouldn’t need this debate."

    Exactly.
    Also, if goverment decisions were made with clear and unmodifiable public records available on each transaction and reasoning without every decision and project, hm.

    What I see here is an analog of the Veil. The purpose of the veil is to hide what is. This struck me the other day during conversation as to why I accepted someone's opposing position. I accepted his position because he was actually more advanced/balanced than I was.

    Now, it works this way when I scan a persons chakra system. I may see them expressing personality/emotional traits, but seeing the condition of the chakras explains why the traits are expressing in the way they are.

    In a way I then understand why they perceive/emote the way they do, and it becomes acceptable to me in that the friction is only a result of how energy is allowed to flow through them.

    It is like I "see" them, and it changes how I perceive the external emotive persona.
    --------------
    People will do bad things if they think nobody will see them.

    The walls of our skin hide from us what takes place when we ingest foods, non foods, or poisons. The ability to hide our feelings and intent allows us to lie or hide our darkness. The walls that hide the suffering of animals allows it to continue as well. There are walls that hide child slavery. There are walls that hide child abuse in orphanages.

    The strongest walls happen to be the walls put up by programmed minds. There is no veil to hide what is, it ends up being a cognitive joke instead.

    As long people are allowed to hide they will continue to use the darkness.

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    07-09-2012, 01:57 PM (This post was last modified: 07-09-2012, 01:58 PM by Monica.)
    (07-09-2012, 01:28 PM)Diana Wrote: I will add to Oldern's statement that not only red meat is unneeded, but any meat at all. No killing of animals is necessary.

    I find it amusing when they say 'red meat' - why the distinction?


    (07-09-2012, 01:48 PM)kdsii Wrote: But yes, especially lately, I've been contemplating whether there should really be meat, taken from an otherwide healthy animal, on my plate... It does bother me.

    Heart


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    07-09-2012, 02:00 PM
    (07-09-2012, 01:48 PM)kdsii Wrote: I dont think that -everyone- takes negative actions when they are not being watched...
    This sounds more like the human herd mentality.

    I don't think I implied "everyone".

    Anyways, here I took this pic for ya.Tongue
    [Image: 2012-07-08_17-40-04_882b.jpg]

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    07-09-2012, 03:14 PM
    Quote:The above language implies an activist stance. I am not an activist, nor have I dedicated my life to this. I simply have evolved past the animal predator/prey need/want for animal flesh. I have evolved to the point where respect of all life--not just human--has permeated my being and influenced every choice I make, not as a choice-by-choice consideration, rather, as a way of life. In saying I have evolved, the implication is that others have not, and in a sense, I suppose this is a real implication. But I do not intend it this way.

    I took this from another thread, as my reply would not have been on topic.

    This morning there was a huge cricket by my foot while I was in the bathroom. My instinct was to toss it into the toilet. This time I asked my guides about ramifications. The simple act I was about to do had karma attached. This was another level of understanding for me, and I am sure my subconscious will now restructure some of my processes.
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    07-09-2012, 03:22 PM (This post was last modified: 07-09-2012, 03:24 PM by Monica.)
    (07-09-2012, 03:14 PM)Pickle Wrote: This morning there was a huge cricket by my foot while I was in the bathroom. My instinct was to toss it into the toilet. This time I asked my guides about ramifications. The simple act I was about to do had karma attached. This was another level of understanding for me, and I am sure my subconscious will now restructure some of my processes.

    That is one lucky cricket! Smile

    I always did take crickets outside because I wasn't grossed out by them. But cockroaches? They would get smooshed and tossed into the toilet, pronto!

    But now, thanks to Diana, I can no longer step on cockroaches. Dodgy I confess to a bit of annoyance because now it's more trouble when I come across the occasional cockroach. Ah well, such is life! Life's so rough when we try to live compassionately! I mean, I can no longer kill roaches! That's rough. Tongue

    Oddly enough, the cockroach population seems to be diminishing now that no one in my family is killing them anymore. And we never used any chemicals on them.

    But to your point, why is there now karma attached? Because we know better...we are aware.

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    07-09-2012, 04:05 PM (This post was last modified: 07-09-2012, 04:06 PM by Oldern.)
    (07-09-2012, 01:57 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I find it amusing when they say 'red meat' - why the distinction?

    I see red meat as some kind of bastion with those that eat meat and especially those that LOVE eating meat. I had it very easy for converting into a vegetarian because I have been already only scarcely eating some meat every now and then, and never stuff like pigs, horses, deers, any fancy stuff like that. A slight slice of chicken/turkey meat in a sandwich, that is about it, some cooked chicken breasts, fish, etc. But if I had been addicted to stuff like big hamburgers with extra sized red meat or barbecues or fancy stuff...nah, that is a different fight for a different personality.

    Vibrationally speaking, (according to my understanding, mixed in with some ayurveda teachings) red meat is really more complex, it represents a lot more violence and unnecessary energy compared to "white meat", which, again, is more complex than something like fish, and after that, one can easily drop all meat from the menu. The thought of "I deserve it" is what keeps red meat in the centerpoint, it is what fuels emotions like anger and frustration, and any kind of dietary argument further empowers that fuel.

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    07-09-2012, 08:23 PM
    (07-09-2012, 03:14 PM)Pickle Wrote: This morning there was a huge cricket by my foot while I was in the bathroom. My instinct was to toss it into the toilet. This time I asked my guides about ramifications. The simple act I was about to do had karma attached. This was another level of understanding for me, and I am sure my subconscious will now restructure some of my processes.

    That makes me think about what I do in life. Dolores Cannon says that certain waves of people don't accumulate karma. But I have to wonder, that because I know now about compassion, how not to gain karma. I really don't want to have to reincarnate. But I want to be of service to others and not selfish as well.

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    07-11-2012, 03:24 AM
    Thanks for the video pickle, it brought tears to my eyes.
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