A theory about the plane system

[Cyan]

Would this fit.

Logos is thought itself

Sub logos is a plane of a first illusion within that thought (first created surface) (Everything you perceive to be moving from your point of view in relation to the background of everything without repeating a loop (physical systems) or being controlled directly by you)

Sub sub logos is first free form creature created to operate and create for itself within that first illusionary surface.

Sub sub sub logos is the creatures that transition from thought to thought(thoughts that do telepathy and entities that do telepathy and certain chemical groups that inherantly enable telepathy between their participating members)

Sub sub sub sub logos is more of a abstract idea it doesnt really have a clearly defined birth or a death but rather a presence, it just, and through its presence it exhibits an "effect" of kind. IT might even be possible to call (romantic)love as we perceptualize it as a sub sub sub sub logos (specific combination of human internal processess matching up species wide as a concept or an affect)

Sub sub sub sub sub logos is more of a idealized future self somewhere in the remote distance it is the point in which all matter starts to compress down to a single point and there is no real separation between life and death and god and self. for all is perceived as, one.

Sub sub sub sub sub sub logos would be perception into the far abstract distance beyond which all our abilities generally fail.

But love is the logos/thought which we should try to get towards (The present moment of reality and, to quote master Uguai:

Master uguay told Po

"Yesterday is History, Tomorrow a Mystery, Today is a Gift, That's why it's called the Present"

Maybe I Should get off the spiritual treadmill and focus on just being in love =D Especially now since i got the rocketshoes to the top thanks to dunno, some... thing... =D

This means, in theory, that all i should do, ever, is just do the things i want to do. =D huh, love right.

[AnthroHeart]

I like what you say last. Just follow your bliss. If 4D is half of what I think it is, it's going to be an amazing ride. to quote one of my favorite songs, "the ride has just begun".

[johnnylightworker]

Maybe I Should get off the spiritual treadmill and focus on just being in love =D Especially now since i got the rocketshoes to the top thanks to dunno, some... thing... =D

Hahaa, this is exactly how I feel. I feel like some parts of my brain thirst for that oh so sweet saturation of knowledge... and I feel as though it acts sort of like rocket fuel for keeping the inspiration to act accordingly and serves as a cerebral road map for the future planes of existence, but all of the mental fluff must be balanced with the beautiful silence and knowingness that lies in the moment!

[Unbound]

This is an interesting idea.

We would perhaps think of the Logos as the mind, and the sub-logoi as the cells which comprise the body of the mind.

We must remember that all sub-logoi are facets of the Logos, and collectively, in a way, are the manifestation of the Logos' creative pattern.

[Cyan]

A singular logos always creates everything they can want to or think that they can want to experience. Once that is done, they create aspects of themselves which are lesser than the whole (easier to make than greater than the whole) and have those lesser than the whole aspects interplay with one another in an effort to find something you it might want to experience.

Original logos isnt quiet because it cant say anything, its quiet because it has already said "everything" and is waiting for new stuff to say something to, kind of. And our "jobs" is to exist simply as we want to be and by our very interactions we'll create something that is entirely new for the logos to experience, which is always better than creating new forms of life for the purpose of seeing who can find their way back to that which is always anywhere anyway. Seek if you want to, dont seek if you dont want to, you're as valuable either way.

Does the word "approaching the 0 point infinitely" mean anything to anyone here?

[Oldern]

"Does the word "approaching the 0 point infinitely" mean anything to anyone here?"

To me, that means 1/n, and n: 1 -> N

But regardless, I think that the Logos IS incapable of speaking not because it has said everything, but if you think about it, if you have no way to distinguish yourself from everything around you, you become empty, devoid of action and of meaning. If you are everything, you cannot be anything. It is fundamental philosophy. The "I am" is a twofold statement, even if it is very basic. It contains the being, but it alos contains the definitions of "me". If all is me, then I do not exist. In order to exist, one needs a boundary - some gates (imho, ofc).

But since you cannot really make anything disappear, due to the recursive nature of existence, every being that originally believes itself as separate from others, less than others, different/smaller then the whole has the ability to just remember that it is All there Is, and dissolve back into being that - and stop acting. Then do the forgetting again. Then again.

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Also, approaching the 0 infinitely might be a math analogy to the Great Mystery. Every being reaches for that goal, that elusive final integration into All There Is, back to the Creator, but as soon as it happens, you forget it, and you are no longer an acting being. So once again, you forget, you embark. But how close can one get to zero to kinda, to almost know it all, while retaining "itself"? THAT is the mystery, imho.