do u believe in the goodness of the creator

[norral]

sounds like a funny question but not really. with all the stuff that goes on on this planet, all of the suffering , misery and pain i think it is quite easy to not believe in the goodness of the creator. i realize that a lot of the anger i have felt over the years has been anger at the creator for letting all of this injustice transpire on this orb. for letting us be dominated by outside forces. it has royally pissed me off to be honest.
yet now for whatever reason i feel a sense of trust that the creator means it well for all of us. i realize that here on this earth i will not fully understand the reasons for everything. but walking thru life with a sense that the creator means it well for me is a comfort. and for whatever reason right now that is how i feel. but i think it is a basic question that we all must address. we all deal with adversity in one form or the other. do u view that as some form of punishment or as a chance to grow. just some thoughts i have on this morn.

norral

[Ruth]

Yes, I believe in the goodness of the creator. And, as you said, trust that it is somehow all for the greater good of each of us.

[AnthroHeart]

Even though I've been possessed by STS entities in the past and done some awful stuff, I still believe there is goodness in the Creator.

[Jeremy]

The creator allows everything because to not allow, would violate the first law of distortion therefore it would negate the entire reason for creation.

There is no reason to make something not only out of your control but also the result of other selves free will upset you. You can only react to your own free will so to become upset at others would indicate that you would like to infringe upon the free will of others which will do no good to their own development.

I have kept a particular channelling for a while now as I have read it a couple times due to its important personal message regarding unacceptibilities of others.

http://llresearch.org/transcripts/issues..._0916.aspx

[Marc]

I know that the creator is love, and his love is what drives every action. I've had some messed up stuff happen in my life but I see love behind every hardship. I love my creator. <3

[Spaced]

Is the creator "Good?" Who can say? The Creator just Is, it's up to us to put labels on things

I do think we are lucky to have this planet and the free will to do what we will with it. There are important lessons to learn here, and I don't think we would have incarnated here unless we were ready to learn them, but is it the Creator responsible for all the suffering in the world? Well yes, in that each incarnated person on this planet is an agent through which the Creator acts, but to blame the Creator for the hardships on this planet is a bit like blaming an ocean for a wave that got you wet in my opinion.

[norral]

well ive seen a few things in my time. i lived thru the civil rights movement. i saw people shot in the back in their own driveway by the kkk because they were helping people to get the right to vote. the stinking right to vote . killed in their own driveway shot in the back by cowards. i saw signs that said colored only on water fountains. i saw both kennedys, king, malcolm x killed because they stood up to the system. i saw the vietnam war where vietnamese kids were shot in the face by invading american forces, where women were gang raped by american troops who called the people gooks . in their own land they had the arrogance to call the people who lived their gooks. ive seen all of these trumped up wars that have made the elite rich while kids lose their limbs and lose their minds and come back damaged goods. i've seen all the lies and the injustices and the b.s. that has been perpertrated on the american people . we live in a very very large lie ha ha. except its not funny. ive had police walk up to me from a 1/2 mile away and ask me what i am doing on a public beach because i wasnt the right skin color.
so ive seen enuf injustice , cruelty , lies and total b.s. in my 65 years to come to the conclusion that there is a lot of injustice that takes place on this orb. i see the elite rich steal trillions and trillions of dollars and then tell the elderly they need to take a cut in their social security checks ha ha. except its not funny. so there are reasons why i feel how can i put this , frustrated with the amazingly slow movement towards equality.
and yet i also see the beauty. i see the beauty in people , in this planet and usually the beauty that i see in people comes from average everyday people going about their lives with dignity compassion and caring. and that gives me hope. hope so that i am not bitter. but i am also not a dead ember thats for sure. the day i lose my passion about justice is the day u can just call me dead.
and now for whatever reason even though i see thru the lie, and believe me i most certainly do see thru the lie that we call reality, for whatever reason i feel as though i can let all this stuff go and just trust in the creator and know that the creator is guiding my steps in the right direction. and because of all the injustices and horrors that i have seen on this planet i feel fearless. i will be dipped upside down in a pile of it if i am going to live a life of fear. why should i. there is no guile in me. i have nothing to fear and nothing to hide in my life. i only have one face and my heart is pretty easy to read. just read my words and u will know my heart. if the lying elite can live lives of luxury then the rest of us most certainly deserve to thats for sure.

so bottom line i have reason to doubt the good intentions of the creator and yet at this time i feel a sense of trust and the realization that i am the master of my own fate and that as i continue on this path of open heartedness the wind will be at my back

norral

[reeay]

Do you believe in the goodness of all beings?

[Marc]

Do you believe in the goodness of all beings?

Yes, even in most extreme distortions I still believe all beings are good. I don't mean to say they always act in a 'nice' manner but every being acts out of love even it is extremely distorted.

[norral]

do i believe in the goodness of all beings. no i dont . i mean we are in a snapshot in time so we are seeing beings in this particular time frame. if we could see the whole scope of their existence i believe it would be different. but i have to look at what i see now. america is essentially a nazi state even though a lot of people would tell u no. but there is a strong connection to nazism. nazism is evil and those who practiced it were evil . look at the killing fields in cambodia, how many people lost their lives there, countless . the people who did this were evil from my point of view. from the creators point of view it would most likely look different i would think. so even though these people are evil in my eyes i can accept it. i can accept the fact that the creator permits this reality to be the way it is, which is actually a form of slavery that we live in, even though the chains are invisible, and i can trust that there is a divine purpose to all of this . what exactly it is escapes me ha ha.
look at 9/11. how many perished there killed by their own government. if that is not evil i dont know what is. but i wait for something that i know is coming, something which i cant describe exactly. i guess u could call it a removal of the shackles ha ha and a leveling of the playing field . because the essential truth is that we are all divine that is the truth we are all divine but this divinity has been capped so to speak so that we can play this game called life ha ha. i mean if we were walking around creating stuff with our minds and materializing things and teleporting any were we wanted to there would be no game. so we sit here and we wait for the day of our liberation. and for what ever reason i right now have a real sense of just letting go and letting god , of standing aside and observing the play and trusting that somehow this is all going to work out. is that point of view crazy, perhaps im not sure ha ha but it is what i am feeling right now.

norral

i dont know if u ever saw the movie sophies choice with meryl streep and kevin klein. well sophies choice was this, she was being loaded on the trains with her two small children, a boy and a girl. the trains were taking them to the concentration camps. as they were getting on the train a captain came up to her and told her to choose. choose which child would travel with her and which child would be seperated from her and sent to another camp by himself. and while he did this he had this arrogant smirk on his face. that to me is evil , sin is not evil, but that wasnt sin, that was evil. and that is the evil that lives on this planet and that the creator permits to have the upper hand here . that is just the truth. and yet and still i can accept it and i can trust . i just dont close my eyes to reality and pretend that everything is beautiful. it is not. but when i see these kind of things i just cant feel bad about myself. whatever my shortcomings i do not enjoy seeing others suffer. and perhaps that is a good definition of evil, enjoying seeing others suffer. no i enjoy seeing others happy.

[bosphorus]

i do. Many times He helped and rescued me from difficulties and He still does. Thanks God

[zenmaster]

I do, if good = what I want and bad = what I don't want.

[norral]

just to clarify one point here, even though my view of this reality could be interpreted as somewhat negative i dont feel negative at all. i realize the creator has given us the power of thought and that with that we can create whatever reality we choose, be it positive or negative. so i am not caught up in all the stuff that goes on in this world over which i have absolutely no control. i am focused on the stuff i can control which is my life and i am determined to share whatever i can to make this journey better for myself and others. and i trust that the creator adds her blessing to this effort. and that is good enuf for me.

norral

[AnthroHeart]

Just don't try giving your free will away to Creator (or God) like I stupidly did, and later found it to be an STS entity. It's easy to blame God, but problems could be caused by STS beings as well.