Great Way of the Mind

[native]

Without really wanting to comment much, it's quite fascinating that certain behaviors and thoughts in an effort to be of service actually bind us to third density.

100.9 Questioner: It would also seem to me that, since Ra stated in the last session the limit of the viewpoint is the source of all distortions, that the very nature of the service-to-self distortions that create the left-hand path are a function of the veil [and] therefore are dependent, you might say, to some degree, on at least a partial continued veiling. Does this make any sense?

Ra: I am Ra. There is the thread of logic in what you suppose.

The polarities are both dependent upon a limited viewpoint. However, the negative polarity depends more heavily upon the illusory separation betwixt the self and all other mind/body/spirit complexes. The positive polarity attempts to see through the illusion to the Creator in each mind/body/spirit complex, but for the greater part is concerned with behaviors and thoughts directed towards other-selves in order to be of service. This attitude in itself is full of the stuff of your third-density illusion.

[Plenum]

I take it you are referrring to the last line of that quote Icaro?

[native]

You bet..it's my interpretation at least, since the task at hand seems to be to function as a channel by letting go of old patterns and bring a higher state of being into existence through ourselves.

"50.9 When the positive adept touches intelligent infinity from within, this is the most powerful of connections for it is the connection of the whole mind/body/spirit complex microcosm with the macrocosm. This connection enables the, shall we say, green-ray true color in time/space to manifest in your time/space. In green ray thoughts are beings. In your illusion this is normally not so."

"63.28 The influxes of true-color green energy complexes will more and more create the conditions in which the atomic structure of cells of bodily complexes is that of the density of love."

There is this however, suggesting that there is perhaps only so much we're capable of.

"100.7 Thusly, the veil is shown both somewhat lifted and still present, since the work of mind and its transformation involves progressive lifting of the great veil betwixt conscious and deep minds. The complete success of this attempt is not properly a portion of third-density work and, more especially, third-density mental processes."

[AnthroHeart]

I didn't realize it meant binding us to third density. That's pretty rough.

[native]

We can be of service and still move away from this illusion, but how do we serve in the way that we truly intend is what Ra is suggesting that we question.

[JustLikeYou]

I think by incarnating in third density in the first place we bind ourselves to it. My interpretation of this quotation is not that it entails an inextricable connection between service to others and third density; rather, I take it to mean that it is here in 3d where we make that choice and commit to it firmly enough to graduate, and in doing so we have to adapt all of our methods of attempting service to others to the specific illusion where the events play out. That is, service to others is not essentially an immersion in 3d experience; however, it if we are already immersed in 3d, then all of our attempts to be of service must be appropriate to the sphere of existence with which we have bound ourselves.

I take Ra to be speaking from the 3D perspective already. I imagine that in 4D it is not difficult to see the Creator in others, so aspect of the positive polarizing experience is not as urgent.

Edited to add: I really like the way you are associating this quotation with the Great Way of the Mind. I think you are spot-on there.

[native]

As far as being spot-on, I can't take credit since Don was speaking about that card in the preceding questions but thank you

I agree with your thoughts..that we are here to make the choice and serve. I'm not suggesting that serving others binds us to this illusion, but that the nature in which we approach service apparently holds on to old patterns, preventing greater transformations from taking place..the goal being to manifest true color green ray as spoken of in post #3. So the real question seems to be what does it mean to serve others..how is it exactly that we are to serve others? Ra says that the positive polarity's way is an inward journey that seeks to see the creator, but is instead more concerned with behavior and thoughts directed towards others. To me, this suggests two very different things and shall we say, a variance in quality of outcome. I see this whole issue as having a relationship to free will in the moment.

As a side note, I haven't posted in this sub-forum much because I've been wanting to work through the archetypes without other's thoughts influencing any insight at the moment, but your dedication to the archetypes is nice to see

[AnthroHeart]

Great Way of the Mind sounds like enlightenment to me.

[native]

I think that's one way of putting it.

79.41 Questioner: Would the Conqueror or Chariot then represent the culmination of the action of the first six archetypes into a conquering of the mental processes, even possibly removing the veil?


Ra: I am Ra. This is most perceptive. The Archetype Seven is one difficult to enunciate. We may call it the Path, the Way, or the Great Way of the Mind. Its foundation is a reflection and substantial summary of Archetypes One through Six.

One may also see the Way of the Mind as showing the kingdom or fruits of appropriate travel through the mind in that the mind continues to move as majestically through the material it conceives of as a chariot drawn by royal lions or steeds.

At this time we would suggest one more full query for this instrument is experiencing some distortions towards pain.

A distinction should be made it seems.

92.17 Questioner: Thank you. Then finally, as each energy center becomes activated and balanced, the Transformation of the Mind is called upon more and more frequently. When all of the energy centers are activated and balanced to a minimal degree, contact with intelligent infinity occurs; the veil is removed; and the Great Way of the Mind is called upon. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. No. This is a quite eloquent look at some relationships within the archetypical mind. However, it must be seen once again that the archetypical mind does not equal the acting incarnational mind/body/spirit complex’s progression or evolution.

Due to the first misperception we hesitate to speak to the second consideration but shall attempt clarity. While studying the archetypical mind we may suggest that the student look at the Great Way of the Mind, not as that which is attained after contact with intelligent infinity, but rather as that portion of the archetypical mind which denotes and configures the particular framework within which the Mind, the Body, or the Spirit archetypes move.

[Spaced]

I think that last quote is important for understanding the Great Way archetypes.

While studying the archetypical mind we may suggest that the student look at the Great Way of the Mind, not as that which is attained after contact with intelligent infinity, but rather as that portion of the archetypical mind which denotes and configures the particular framework within which the Mind, the Body, or the Spirit archetypes move.

Some theory (all my own fallible thoughts btw): When we work with the Great Way archetypes we are exploring or altering the limitations of our perspective. The Chariot races forth to chart new and as of yet unmapped portions of the self which can then be more deeply explored by working with the other archetypes of mind body and spirit. The Great Way is not then an end goal to strive for, but an avenue to further experience and further opportunity to know the self from a new perspective.

As for the quote in the OP, it expands upon the previous query which I think is useful for context.

100.8 Questioner: The fact that the veil is raised higher on the right-hand side than on the left indicates to me that the adept choosing the positive polarity will have greater success in penetrating the veil. Would Ra comment?

Ra: I am Ra. This is a true statement if it is realized that the questioner speaks of potential success. Indeed, your third-density experience is distorted or skewed so that the positive orientation has more aid than the so-called negative.

How do you think our experience would be different if our third-density were skewed so that negative orientation had more aid, of if each orientation had equal amounts of aid? If the left side of the veil were raised higher?

Is the fact that the veil is potentially more easily penetrated via seeking through the positive orientation the reason that when "the positive polarity attempts to see through the illusion to the Creator in each mind/body/spirit complex" they usually find themselves "for the greater part [...] concerned with behaviors and thoughts directed towards other-selves in order to be of service?" Even when we get glimpses through the veil we aren't getting a whole picture, but a "right hand" view which leads us to outwardly oriented concept tied to service to others?

Just a thought.

[native]

Your presumptions about the chariot and the Great Way in general sound good to me Spaced, especially the idea of new territory. Being that the chariot is drawn by lions, I see that both as an expression of a focusing or harnessing of strength related to service, yet also representative of a more effective use of power that takes the path of least resistance, offering a type of experience that is effortless..being pulled and moved.

I see the positive polarity's difficulty being a natural and necessary function of free will, which seems to be what you're saying. It makes sense that a limited perspective would still naturally focus on an outwardly approach. The negative orientation idea is an interesting question as well.