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    05-13-2014, 09:20 PM
    Quote:17.30 Questioner: Well, if an entity wants to learn ways of it, wants to be of service to others rather than service to self while he is in this third density, are there best ways of being of service to others, or is any way just as good as any other way?

    Ra: I am Ra. The best way to be of service to others has been explicitly covered in previous material. We will iterate briefly.

    The best way of service to others is the constant attempt to seek to share the love of the Creator as it is known to the inner self. This involves self knowledge and the ability to open the self to the other-self without hesitation. This involves, shall we say, radiating that which is the essence or the heart of the mind/body/spirit complex.

    Speaking to the intention of your question, the best way for each seeker in third density to be of service to others is unique to that mind/body/spirit complex. This means that the mind/body/spirit complex must then seek within itself the intelligence of its own discernment as to the way it may best serve other-selves. This will be different for each. There is no best. There is no generalization. Nothing is known.

    In other words, always express your desires to other people without hesitation? Assuming the essence is your desires?
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    05-13-2014, 10:37 PM (This post was last modified: 05-13-2014, 10:38 PM by Bring4th_Austin.)
    What exactly do you mean by desires?

    In my view, I don't think I would necessarily classify "the love of the Creator" or the "essence or heart of the mind/body/spirit complex" as desire. I also don't necessarily think that in every situation, expressing your desires, no matter how sincere, would be "service to others" or polarizing. If there is a lack of self-honesty, doing so could further your own distortions, unbalance you and offer imbalance to those around you.

    I suppose it could depend on what those desires are, or what you mean by desire.
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    05-13-2014, 10:50 PM (This post was last modified: 05-13-2014, 10:56 PM by Adonai One.)
    What is the essence of the mind/body/complex? What is the etymology of heart in that it enables something to exist?

    Would not desire be the core function of the mind/body/spirit in that through being conscious of the matrix of potentiated catalyst, it desires a resulting experience and its significance, by way of transformation attaining a great way, resulting in a given choice in a specific series of events? Is not this choice fueled by a desire to choose in the first place?
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    05-13-2014, 11:33 PM (This post was last modified: 05-13-2014, 11:35 PM by xise.)
    (05-13-2014, 10:50 PM)Adonai One Wrote: What is the essence of the mind/body/complex? What is the etymology of heart in that it enables something to exist?

    Would not desire be the core function of the mind/body/spirit in that through being conscious of the matrix of potentiated catalyst, it desires a resulting experience and its significance, by way of transformation attaining a great way, resulting in a given choice in a specific series of events? Is not this choice fueled by a desire to choose in the first place?

    I'm not sure desire captures essence, but there is some fundamental link between desire and the first distortion of free will.

    However, I'm not sure I've discovered anything further on the matter. Great thread.
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    05-13-2014, 11:38 PM
    Is essence but simply a will? And is the will not fueled by desire, the attraction to what is most resonant with the self so it may reach full resonance with the macrocosm?
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    05-13-2014, 11:49 PM
    Quote:The one undifferentiated intelligent infinity, unpolarized, full and whole, is the macrocosm of the mystery-clad being. We are messengers of the Law of One. Unity, at this approximation of understanding, cannot be specified by any physics but only be activated or potentiated intelligent infinity due to the catalyst of free will. This may be difficult to accept. However, the understandings we have to share begin and end in mystery.

    What is the mystery-clad being? Desire, to me, cannot be the "core" because it is a property, a characteristic. The core is conscious awareness of the self as one, but this is still, perhaps, still not the core, for I believe the core of all is mystery, the mystery of unity unbroken and no amount of labels, or as Ra says here "physics", is astute to its description. Thus, the fact that desire is something which is complex denotes to me it is not the core.
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    05-13-2014, 11:54 PM (This post was last modified: 05-13-2014, 11:58 PM by Bring4th_Austin.)
    I suppose my hang-up has to do with the fact that I can imagine situations where openly expressing one's "desires" to others may increase one's distortions, or offer distortion to others, and I don't think that would be a polarizing situation.

    Though I do largely agree with you in that being truly honest, at least with ourselves, about our desires will lead us towards the heart of self, as long as self-inquiry and analysis of these desires is maintained while experiencing catalyst. I think that if true acceptance is wielded during this self-inquiry, each unique experience will allow things that might be recognized as "desire," but may ultimately be detrimental to our growth, to fall away as we become more and more congruent with our true essential self.

    It makes me wonder what Ra meant saying "without hesitation." Does this mean there is no case in which "the ability to open the self to the other-self without hesitation" is not appropriate for service to others or polarization? Or could an individual be ready and willing to open the self to another self as long as they determine it is a responsible and good thing to do given consideration of the role they play in the situation?

    Another way to ask that: if someone refrains from expressing their desires to an other-self for the sake of that other-self's joy, peace, and comfort, is that compatible with what Ra suggests?

    I agree with Tanner and xise about desire not necessarily being the "whole picture" of the essence or heart of the self. The term "desire" speaks to me of only one part of the reacher/reached polarity harvested from the last octave, from which this octave is created.
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    05-14-2014, 12:06 AM (This post was last modified: 05-14-2014, 12:07 AM by Adonai One.)
    What is the core essence of our existence in this reality without calls to the unknown? Can we really apply mystery to our lives in a practical manner? Is there an understanding of essence that we can quantify and apply?
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    05-14-2014, 01:07 AM
    "Desire" only covers part of the "call" part of "calls to the unknown."
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    05-14-2014, 01:10 AM (This post was last modified: 05-14-2014, 01:11 AM by Adonai One.)
    And how is that relevant to the daily life of the human subject that wants to be more "service-to-others"?

    How do we radiate our essence and our heart and what does it consist of in our lives? What are we doing with our lives when we share love?

    I believe it's important these terms have meaning. Saying "it's a mystery" leaves the quote quite dead.
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    05-14-2014, 01:48 AM (This post was last modified: 05-14-2014, 01:49 AM by xise.)
    Perhaps my musings were unclear in my earlier post, but I think A1's on to something.

    Desire is very, very close and primary to essence. There's something very basic and essential about desire involving free will. I wouldn't necessarily say at this point I think desire is all of one's essence, but I think much of essence can be captured by the word desire at this point. Though whether it's 100%, I'm not so sure.

    I think this is a very interesting and useful line of inquiry Manny.
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    (05-14-2014, 01:10 AM)Adonai One Wrote: And how is that relevant to the daily life of the human subject that wants to be more "service-to-others"?

    How do we radiate our essence and our heart and what does it consist of in our lives? What are we doing with our lives when we share love?

    I believe it's important these terms have meaning. Saying "it's a mystery" leaves the quote quite dead.

    This is what it can be used for:

    Quote:We cannot offer shortcuts to enlightenment. Enlightenment is of the moment, is an opening to intelligent infinity. It can only be accomplished by the self, for the self. Another self cannot teach/learn enlightenment, but only teach/learn information, inspiration, or a sharing of love, of mystery, of the unknown that makes the other-self reach out and begin the seeking process that ends in a moment, but who can know when an entity will open the gate to the present?

    I am not or ever trying to give "answers", only show others the threshold of their own mystery-clad being.

    This is my orientation of self and service to others is I nurture and grow the desire to seek through the sharing of mystery, mystique and wonder. I am not here to tell anyone the path but to show each that there is a path if they so desire to look. I sit at the crossroads and beckon the mystery of each direction, yet I do not walk for any.

    Everyone I meet with I share the mystery and wonder and unknown reverence I hold for all of creation. It does not matter to me whether or not I am "correct" in a logical, rational sense, only that I am able to inspire wonder, curiosity and seeking in the self and other-self.

    Indeed, I see the mystery as not being a cop-out but an acknowledgement of the actual state of things. It's not a mystery because it is elusive and incapable of being understood, it is a mystery because infinity, by its very nature, must account for mystery. I see the mystery as being a thing in itself, not just a cloak or obscuring of something else, but the mystery, and the essence of mystery is the core of being itself. This isn't to say it is untouchable and unknowable, but rather it is only knowable as a mystery which grows ever deeper and deeper. The more you know and learn, the less you do. The more aware of the self you are, the greater the self becomes and the more expansive the mystery gets. I do not long to "know everything" because I know that mystery is eternal and that so long as there is existence, there shall also be mystery. Without mystery, there is no seeking, period.

    For me, I seek to be of service by showing people of their potential and capacity to grasp that potential on whatever level they are able to do so. This is offered, of course, not enforced and only when it is asked for or welcomed.
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    05-14-2014, 09:14 AM (This post was last modified: 05-14-2014, 09:18 AM by Stranger.)
    (05-13-2014, 09:20 PM)Adonai One Wrote:
    Quote:17.30 Questioner: Well, if an entity wants to learn ways of it, wants to be of service to others rather than service to self while he is in this third density, are there best ways of being of service to others, or is any way just as good as any other way?

    Ra: I am Ra. The best way to be of service to others has been explicitly covered in previous material. We will iterate briefly.

    The best way of service to others is the constant attempt to seek to share the love of the Creator as it is known to the inner self. This involves self knowledge and the ability to open the self to the other-self without hesitation. This involves, shall we say, radiating that which is the essence or the heart of the mind/body/spirit complex.

    Speaking to the intention of your question, the best way for each seeker in third density to be of service to others is unique to that mind/body/spirit complex. This means that the mind/body/spirit complex must then seek within itself the intelligence of its own discernment as to the way it may best serve other-selves. This will be different for each. There is no best. There is no generalization. Nothing is known.

    In other words, always express your desires to other people without hesitation? Assuming the essence is your desires?

    "Share the love of the Creator" - self-explanatory.

    "Open the self to the other-self without hesitation" - i.e., not be guarded against others, avoid the normal fear and hesitation we often approach others with in case they hurt us, or don't give us what we want, etc. These approaches to others interfere with the ability to embrace another with complete love.

    "radiating that which is the essence or the heart of the mind/body/spirit complex." - our essence is love. The heart of the mind/body/spirit complex is the heart, which, when opened toward another, will radiate love (loving-kindness) toward them. In 3rd and 4th densities, the aim is the perfection of that love and using that love "in a constant attempt", i.e., always, toward all others, to motivate behavior.

    Within those parameters, the manifestation of that love as service "will be different for each."
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    05-14-2014, 06:58 PM
    Ra Wrote:17.30 The best way of service to others is the constant attempt to seek to share the love of the Creator as it is known to the inner self. This involves self knowledge and the ability to open the self to the other-self without hesitation. This involves, shall we say, radiating that which is the essence or the heart of the mind/body/spirit complex.

    I think one of the important parts of this quote is the self-knowledge aspect. Things can only be shared when they have been understood and integrated by the self.

    regards the 'ability to open the self to the other-self without hesitation' I sort of see that as the combined action of the yellow and blue ray clearance. Ra identifies the yellow and blue (along with red) as being the primary energy centres, and they are the ones that 'thrust' into reality and offer the opportunity for interaction (yang energies).

    The yin energies of orange, green, and indigo are more internal and supportive, but its through the yang centres that we engage with reality.

    "The blue ray seats the learning/teachings of the spirit in each density within the mind/body complex, animating the whole, communicating to others this entirety of beingness."
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    05-14-2014, 08:20 PM (This post was last modified: 05-14-2014, 08:23 PM by Adonai One.)
    I think the terminology of rays is so currently subjective, that it is utterly useless for conversation, as the semantics of these rays are not even universally agreed upon and their foundation within the archetypal mind is kept so utterly mystical with no consensus whatsoever.

    There is no discussion with the current language we have. There is simply a restatement of beliefs of what the terms mean with only an inference that Ra has connoted such a position. We have no clear foundation and we depend on a convicted faith that our positions are directly coherent with the Ra Material. We rely on this book as an authority and we cannot find the heart within ourselves to actually justify our beliefs by our own self-knowledge.

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    Well, this is the "Strictly Law of One/Ra Material" section, so yeah.

    Also, the material didn't seem to make it quite clear what the difference between a "ray" and a "chakra" is, although I presume the ray is the energy translated through space and time, and the chakra is the point of reference between multiple rays crossing or something.

    Or the yogic view that they are vortexes which attract particular vibrations to themselves which go towards powering the many levels of the being.

    I agree that the idea of both "rays" and "chakras" are blurry here, but they are rather well defined in many yoga traditions and other cultural traditions. The problem with the Ra Material is the limitation of the questioning.
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    05-15-2014, 03:12 AM (This post was last modified: 05-15-2014, 03:13 AM by Adonai One.)
    The question is not of the mystical aspects of these so-called rays but what they represent within the essence of the soul empirically and coherently within a universally agreed upon semantic, meaning, definition for each so-called ray. For instance, how can we discuss the green-ray if one man believes it represents sacrificial love and the other believes it represents a love that goes beyond such giving?

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    (05-15-2014, 03:12 AM)Adonai One Wrote: The question is not of the mystical aspects of these so-called rays but what they represent within the essence of the soul empirically and coherently within a universally agreed upon semantic, meaning, definition for each so-called ray. For instance, how can we discuss the green-ray if one man believes it represents sacrificial love and the other believes it represents a love that goes beyond such giving?

    Good question and for me the answer lies within the human body itself which is the common analog we all share. One of the notable things about the study of the chakras is that each chakra is supposed to correspond to particular glands (endocrine system) in the body. While this doesn't establish a clear basis, it is a start towards identifying a common understanding of these energies and the energy centers they course through as based on a mutually identifiable analog.

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