Ra on marijuana

[Lighthead]

Marijuana makes me lose control of my mental function. I can also barely walk.
I don't really like it. It makes things freaky.

Same thing here... Although, I like the freaky part.   I just don't like the part that makes my IQ lower (temporarily, they say). But like I said, I haven't done it in a while. I had this tradition towards the end where it seemed like I would do it about twice a year, but I eventually quit doing even that. If I did a lot, I would have some really trippy experiences. They felt like natural hallucinations as opposed to when I dropped acid.

[AnthroHeart]

It's nothing like ayahuasca (or pharmahuasca). Now that was beautiful. But it resulted in schizophrenia.

[Lighthead]

It's nothing like ayahuasca (or pharmahuasca). Now that was beautiful. But it resulted in schizophrenia.

I'm in the same boat. LSD left me permanently damaged. Pretty much the main risk of hallucinogens; even if they are considered entheogens. Did you go deep into the jungle when you took it? My other question is what was your initial reason for taking it?

[Lighthead]

It's nothing like ayahuasca (or pharmahuasca). Now that was beautiful. But it resulted in schizophrenia.

I keep on telling myself that the time I took a lot of it, that it was low-grade acid, but I think that it may have been a batch that worked deep into your subconscious.

[AnthroHeart]

I evolved to taking it from taking Salvia. Salvia was just freaky carnival experiences, and I heard that DMT was the deep end. DMT led to Pharmahuasca. Salvia left no lasting mental issues.

[Lighthead]

I evolved to taking it from taking Salvia. Salvia was just freaky carnival experiences, and I heard that DMT was the deep end. DMT led to Pharmahuasca. Salvia left no lasting mental issues.

But did you take it here in the US, or somewhere else?

[AnthroHeart]

In the US.

[Minyatur]

It's nothing like ayahuasca (or pharmahuasca). Now that was beautiful. But it resulted in schizophrenia.

I'm in the same boat. LSD left me permanently damaged. Pretty much the main risk of hallucinogens; even if they are considered entheogens. Did you go deep into the jungle when you took it? My other question is what was your initial reason for taking it?

How were you damaged? I've done acid and mushrooms and can't find a way they would damage one. Usually even bad trips are insightful toward balancing.

[Lighthead]

It's nothing like ayahuasca (or pharmahuasca). Now that was beautiful. But it resulted in schizophrenia.

I'm in the same boat. LSD left me permanently damaged. Pretty much the main risk of hallucinogens; even if they are considered entheogens. Did you go deep into the jungle when you took it? My other question is what was your initial reason for taking it?

How were you damaged? I've done acid and mushrooms and can't find a way they would damage one. Usually even bad trips are insightful toward balancing.

I guess it all boils down to certain people being more genetically at risk. Sometimes, you never really know until you do it. I never really asked my parents about our family history (in terms of mental illness) before I ended up trying it. I would definitely say that I have mental illness in my family, at the very least on one side of my family (I have an uncle on my mom's side who probably had schizophrenia, but he was my mom's half-brother). Do you have mental illness in your family? If not, then that's most likely why. I'm not sure about Gemini Wolf, but the people that I know who have been affected have had a history of mental illness in their family, somewhere down the line. The more closely related they are, the more at risk you are.

I've also seen scientific studies that say that people who tend to have a lot of creative people in their family tend to lean more towards having bipolar and schizophrenia in their family. Families that tend towards having scientists (of some sort) or engineers tend towards having autism. So a person can be functional, be undiagnosed, and yet still have a mental illness. A lot of that stuff is genetic.

[isis]

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[Lighthead]

It proves to be too much for me these days...but sometimes I have it anyways. *insert insanity wolf meme here*

This thread is supposed to be about Ra on the topic of Marijuana. It needs all kinds of slicing & dicing.

I refuse to name names, but someone (not me) started talking about hallucinogens.    I was mainly talking about the buds.

[AnthroHeart]

Does marijuana make you not care when life gets crappy?

[isis]

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[Minyatur]

In my opinion how one react to drugs has also to do with higher self programmation. Genetic issues would most likely be part of that.

[tamaryn]

Its a surely a challenge for me to balance my natural energies under the influence. Its a matter of directing Metta toward whatever once things start to go sideways or I have an anxiety trip.

Other than that I've also been damaged by acid with recurring visual snow and auras and the like. This mushroom works wonders if you have any unnatural brain rewiring from psychedelic substances. Its called Lion's Mane. And there are a bunch of threads on bluelight with anecdotal evidence that it cures peoples HPPD (residual visual hallucinations) via nerve regeneration. I've been taking the supplement version for about a week now.

Heres a cool little article on the mushroom:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-stame...25583.html

[Lighthead]

Its a surely a challenge for me to balance my natural energies under the influence. Its a matter of directing Metta toward whatever once things start to go sideways or I have an anxiety trip.

Other than that I've also been damaged by acid with recurring visual snow and auras and the like. This mushroom works wonders if you have any unnatural brain rewiring from psychedelic substances. Its called Lion's Mane. And there are a bunch of threads on bluelight with anecdotal evidence that it cures peoples HPPD (residual visual hallucinations) via nerve regeneration. I've been taking the supplement version for about a week now.

Heres a cool little article on the mushroom:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-stame...25583.html

I'd definitely like to get in on that (Lion's Mane). The only thing is that it's kind of pricey on where I normally get my vitamins. It's definitely on my wishlist.

Sorry for derailing the thread, Isis.

[Matt1]

I used to smoke Cannabis. Smoked it for about 8 years? So that's nearly a decade i guess. I have been to Amsterdam and stuff.
What i would say about it is this, its not nearly as bad as the Government or system makes it out to be but its not nearly as good as the alternative communities claim it to be.

If any plant teacher is used as a means of spiritual growth all is well, but i have my doubts that it will be used in such a manner by most.

[sarina]

I wonder how much of the information provided to Carla (specifically) actually pertain to the rest of the m/b/s complexes on this planet. I feel sometimes that some of that information, i.e. marihuana use being detrimental was specifically for Carla's mind, body, spiritual complex specific configuration. Based on Book IV: Personal Material, it seems that Carla's present incarnation configuration was unusual and based on a pre incarnative decision/arrangement to be able to open a "narrow channel" through which she could communicate with the Ra Social Memory Complex in specific. What might be adversal to a m/b/s complex may be of benefit to another. - Love and Light to All.

[Jade]

What Ra actually says about marijuana is that it isn't good to ingest while channeling, because it's a "chemical reaction of short duration." He says it's not good for Carla for "the service she has chosen", and the question is about what substances improve/harm the efficacy of the contact. Ra said that LSD is both positive and negative but specifically pretty bad for Carla.

[anagogy]

They also said:

19.22 Questioner: I just have two little questions here at the end. The instrument wanted me to ask if there was any other substances, foods, etc., that she should not eat or drink, or anything she should not do because she does not wish to have poor contact for any reason.

Ra: I am Ra. There is no activity which this instrument engages in which affects its abilities negatively. There is one activity which affects its abilities positively. This is the sexual activity, as you would call it. There are substances ingested which do not aid the individual in the service it has chosen, this being that which you would call the marijuana. This is due to the distortion towards chemical lapses within the mind complex causing lack of synaptic continuity. This is a chemical reaction of short duration. This instrument, however, has not used this particular substance at any time while performing this service. We believe we have covered the use of such chemical agents as LSD, this being positive to a certain extent due to the energizing or speeding up of the vital forces. However, it is not recommended for this instrument due to the toll it takes upon the vital energies once the substance wears off, this being true of any speeding-up chemical.

Having said that, though. "Lack of synaptic continuity" doesn't necessarily imply "detrimental". In fact, I think there are times when a little bit of synaptic discontinuity aids in seeing beyond the structural perceptual limitations of the human sensory apparatus. As Ra would say, the tools are the tools. It is how we use them that determines the benefit or detriment.

[Diana]

The physical body, in my opinion and experience, must be taken into consideration. You can pollute the body with bad food, or smoke cigarettes, and this won't prevent you from advancing along your path of evolving. But if you don't do those things, it frees the energy up (expended dealing with keeping the body healthy and the mind balanced—I'm referring to endorphin and serotonin levels) to be used elsewhere, and makes everything a little clearer in the overall experience. It's like taking a rock out of the sack of rocks one is carrying as a burden through 3D. 

I don't deny the benefits of hallucinogens in expanding the rigid belief systems of the mind, or the destressing attributes of alcohol or marijuana. Hallucinogens may be efficacious in the initial phase of breaking open the doors of perception, but they take a toll on the body and it would be wise, I think, to nurture the body accordingly if one is going to use them. It also might be attractive to be in that nonlinear place, but it doesn't make sense to come here just to escape here. So it seems that there is a fine line that might be observed between using certain mind-altering substances (loosely termed) positively or negatively.  

As far as marijuana is concerned, it skews perception no matter how you look at it, aside from the results of the smoke in the throat and lungs. I'm not sure whether the skewing of perception gets one closer or farther away from self truth. But it does seem to impair intellectual acuity in terms of organization.

Regarding channeling, it really doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me to be under the influence of any substance other than one's own carefully balanced and integrated mind/body/spirit.

[BlatzAdict]

i read marijuana increases intelligence, and increases connections between the left and right lobes. however intellectual acuity does not bring oneself any closer to love which must be felt, and acted from, not pondered. the ponder is to know, but the heart and the love, is to do, and to be.

sure mental acuity can bring oneself to better understand this love... light can be with love, or without love, but it can never be love.

[Jeremy]

The last time I smoked was a few months ago and the first time in quite a while. My girlfriend and I were camping and our neighbors asked us if we wanted to partake. We are already buzzed from quite a lot of alcohol also.

After we finished, we had to walk to the bathhouse to take showers as we were leaving the following morning. I started feeling a bit paranoid as I entered the shower stall.

All of a sudden, I felt as if I was molding into different people. I'd look down and my arms would change sizes and shape. Some points I felt female, other males, and others childlike. At this point I was seriously starting to freak. I knew it was anxiety based so I tried convincing myself of that but the feeling was so different than anything I had felt before. I was multiple people at a single time and it was way too intense.

As I stepped out of the stall and dried off, I still felt rattled and almost childlike. I walked into the next stall that had a toilet and sat down then I realized that the stall was supersized just as if I was a child and that was it. I finished up and hauled ass out of the bathroom lol. It took quite a few minutes to calmed myself down after that.

[Rhayader]

I think it has been an amazing tool, and it can help you do wonders with your own mind if you know how, but at the same time I feel you can not reach adepthood whilst still using this substance.

[Ashim]

I think it has been an amazing tool, and it can help you do wonders with your own mind if you know how, but at the same time I feel you can not reach adepthood whilst still using this substance.

Adepthood is reached when the lower centers are brought into harmony. The use of THC may take you to levels of cognition that would otherwise not be possible in the current space/time but will not act as an 'eraser' of any residual karma. The use may open the eyes but will not facilitate 'true' understanding, that may only happen as a result of 'feeling' the results of the actions one has perpetrated.


Yes, the gateway may be opened but there is much work to be done.