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    Turtle (Offline)

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    #31
    04-09-2015, 07:05 PM
    (04-09-2015, 03:33 PM)Bluebell Wrote: everyone is able. but sometimes things don't happen in ables. walk in my shoes & then tell me how able i am.

    i'm just not likeable. i can't force people to like me. i can't pretend either. i don't have the knowledge required.

    I do not know how much you'd have to change your way of thinking/attitude towards your own worth, as well as the worthiness of connecting with others, but if you truly desired it, you would certainly find a way.

    Know that it is your choice however. To be on this forum and even be having these conversations is proof enough that you are not that naive.
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    #32
    04-10-2015, 10:51 AM
    (04-09-2015, 07:05 PM)Turtle Wrote:
    (04-09-2015, 03:33 PM)Bluebell Wrote: everyone is able. but sometimes things don't happen in ables. walk in my shoes & then tell me how able i am.

    i'm just not likeable. i can't force people to like me. i can't pretend either. i don't have the knowledge required.

    I do not know how much you'd have to change your way of thinking/attitude towards your own worth, as well as the worthiness of connecting with others, but if you truly desired it, you would certainly find a way.

    Know that it is your choice howe ver. To be on this forum and even be having these conversations is proof enough that you are not that naive.

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    Turtle (Offline)

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    #33
    04-10-2015, 01:43 PM
    (04-10-2015, 10:51 AM)Bluebell Wrote:
    (04-09-2015, 07:05 PM)Turtle Wrote:
    (04-09-2015, 03:33 PM)Bluebell Wrote: everyone is able. but sometimes things don't happen in ables. walk in my shoes & then tell me how able i am.

    i'm just not likeable. i can't force people to like me. i can't pretend either. i don't have the knowledge required.

    I do not know how much you'd have to change your way of thinking/attitude towards your own worth, as well as the worthiness of connecting with others, but if you truly desired it, you would certainly find a way.

    Know that it is your choice howe ver. To be on this forum and even be having these conversations is proof enough that you are not that naive.

    [Image: 61142544.jpg]

    lol. It is both a compliment, and just my attempt at offering what I believe to be healthy guidance.
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    #34
    04-10-2015, 02:08 PM (This post was last modified: 04-10-2015, 02:09 PM by Bluebell.)
    well thank u. i agree in principle & maybe even more than that but beliefs r hard to change, i know once it happens it seems easy but lifelong beliefs r bound around one's spine. if u yank it off it u shatter the core. also... to me it's like if i suddenly could master levitation i would feel everything i've trusted dissolving along w gravity. i think i'm terrified of power while i am in such a limited form. wut might simple self worth unleash? for some reason it's tied to everything else. the human psyche is a dark marshland of confusion.

    (if u squint Fry's eyes look like boobs)
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    #35
    04-10-2015, 04:07 PM
    (04-10-2015, 02:08 PM)Bluebell Wrote: wut might simple self worth unleash?

    How curious your perspective is to me...!

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    Yggdrasil

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    04-10-2015, 04:41 PM
    I think it's easy to create elaborate ideas when one think of one's actions in the outer world as opposed to the inner. I try to keep in mind that the two are always intertwined and so there is no activity that does not involve both the inner and the outer. This kept in mind, it is actually both remarkably difficult and amusingly easy to make efforts towards service using both as much as possible, in ratios and balances with eachother.

    Interestingly enough, you actually encounter other selves regardless of whether or not you are focusing inwardly or outwardly. There are loads of other selves in the inner planes, just as there are other selves in the outer. I see it that the two are already reflecting eachother, so when you 'meet' the other selves through one, you are automatically making changes in your 'meetings' in the other. You are always meeting both inner and outer plane other selves.

    These is where things can become fickle, however, as sometimes one from inner or outer will try to keep your focus only on them, only on what is either inner or outer. At other times, we need to focus on only one or the other in order to balance our experience with its opposite. I would note that just because one is not around humans does not mean one is alone per se or not interacting with the outer other but all that is outer is made up of what is other.

    So, to make most use of both inner and outer, I seek to put in to all my activities energy and consideration from both. To simply this idea, I may simply say action and intent. Doing something deliberate takes will, the more deliberate, the more will. Will is measured by its degrees of freedom or freedom of will. Focus is what it means to do something deliberate and the mechanism of focusing is through Logos or Love of the One Infinite Creator.

    Place the intention to be of service to others in all your actions. Such as how the Bodhisattvas place the intent that all their actions and interactions go towards the liberation and peace of all sentient beings. Make this your fundamental intent. Include yourself in this intent. Thus, through all your actions this intent will become expressed. Remember, your body is actually a receiver. It is receiving your will. You are not actually "moving your body", you are the thought which the body receives and moves accordingly. The body is like the mirror, it moves exactly according to the mind.

    The problem is that much of the mind is unconscious and needs to be brought in to consciousness in order for the body to more clearly reflect the mind. In otherwords, the mirror is distorted and requires smoothing out and rearrangement. Some might simply choose to smash the mirror and create a new one but such is a route that may find oneself more unconscious than conscious. Consciousness does not always just move in to more consciousness. It fluctuates and one can go back in to more unconsciousness and this is why it is actually so challenging to 'be enlightened' because like a flame there needs to be the fuel of will, concentrated by the spark of love and an intent to shine light out upon the darkness which is the perfect receiver of light.

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    Jeremy (Offline)

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    #37
    04-10-2015, 06:00 PM (This post was last modified: 04-10-2015, 06:02 PM by Jeremy.)
    Ah a thread that has real world applications for once. Quite refreshing indeed.

    Anyways, I equate power to the level of desire one develops to be of service. To find that insatiable drive towards being of service to an other self, is to find the key of our incarnations purpose.

    One needs not friends nor acquaintances for such desire to be fulfilled. One may still feel out of place discussing the mundane folly that most other selves concern themselves with. If one can't attempt to interact due to ones own insecurities, one can still find opportunities for service. Examples of such would be volunteering, service oriented careers such as healthcare, etc

    If one still finds that they are incapable of interacting with other selves in the most basic of circumstances, then that is where the inner power/desire must first be developed along with the most likely reason for this current incarnation. Blaming ones past or current circumstances for the inability to interact with one's other self is akin to blaming the gun maker for the murder. It takes the personal responsibility away and the free will away from the other self who, ultimately, is making or not making the choice.

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    #38
    04-11-2015, 07:35 AM
    (04-10-2015, 04:07 PM)Turtle Wrote:
    (04-10-2015, 02:08 PM)Bluebell Wrote: wut might simple self worth unleash?

    How curious your perspective is to me...!

    me too, my Turtle friend.

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