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    Bring4th Bring4th Community Olio David Wilcock Official Moderator claims that he knows Hidden Hand hoaxer

    Thread: David Wilcock Official Moderator claims that he knows Hidden Hand hoaxer


    yossarian (Offline)

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    #1
    12-20-2011, 03:59 PM (This post was last modified: 12-20-2011, 04:05 PM by yossarian.)
    Posted today on the comments section of David's blog.

    Quote:Arend Lammertink
    December 20, 2011
    ...
    In reference to an earlier post here:

    http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html

    [Moderator: This is a hoax written by a fan of David's website. It is a positive person masquerading as if they were in the Illuminati. The real beliefs of this group have nothing to do with what is in this document.]

    @Moderator: thanks for making this clear. Can you share any more info on that?

    Like: do you know who this person is, or is it basically just a guess?

    Is this common knowledge within David's inner circle? Has this been discussed on his forum? Do they know the specific individual responsible?

    For him to know that it's a Wilcock supporter he must know who it is.

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    #2
    12-20-2011, 05:11 PM
    caught my attention just as much

    of course the moderator didnt bother to respond another time ...:-/

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    12-20-2011, 06:54 PM
    It wouldn't surprise me if this is true being that HH seems to have turned a lot of people towards the material.

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    #4
    12-20-2011, 09:54 PM
    For many if it simply "resonates" with what the intuition suggests based on prejudices and gaps in their experience, it's "TRUE" and should be shared. ("David's inner circle" lol.)
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    12-20-2011, 10:01 PM
    (12-20-2011, 03:59 PM)yossarian Wrote: Posted today on the comments section of David's blog.

    Quote:Arend Lammertink
    December 20, 2011
    ...
    In reference to an earlier post here:

    http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html

    [Moderator: This is a hoax written by a fan of David's website. It is a positive person masquerading as if they were in the Illuminati. The real beliefs of this group have nothing to do with what is in this document.]

    @Moderator: thanks for making this clear. Can you share any more info on that?

    Like: do you know who this person is, or is it basically just a guess?

    Is this common knowledge within David's inner circle? Has this been discussed on his forum? Do they know the specific individual responsible?

    For him to know that it's a Wilcock supporter he must know who it is.

    How can that be a "positive person"?

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    Oceania Away

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    #6
    12-20-2011, 11:07 PM
    how can hidden hand be a negative person? either way it makes no sense.

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    12-21-2011, 12:48 AM
    (12-20-2011, 11:07 PM)Oceania Wrote: how can hidden hand be a negative person? either way it makes no sense.

    Because he/she/they say is a negative?

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    yossarian (Offline)

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    #8
    12-21-2011, 02:54 AM
    (12-20-2011, 09:54 PM)zenmaster Wrote: For many if it simply "resonates" with what the intuition suggests based on prejudices and gaps in their experience, it's "TRUE" and should be shared. ("David's inner circle" lol.)

    You don't think David has an inner circle?

    It sounds like he has a secret wife/girlfriend for one thing, and he has all his helpers, webmasters, moderators, editors, whatnot. But their names are secret.

    There is so much that goes unsaid in the David Wilcock camp.
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    12-21-2011, 09:07 AM
    Our concept of understanding STO/STS, positive and negative is such a flawed paradoxon that we WILL keep running into things like this. This will especially be a problem for people who have a dire and untreated need of having to categorize EVERYTHING into one or another. Everything is one. + and - are just aspects of a whole. At the end, it does not matter.

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    12-21-2011, 09:24 AM (This post was last modified: 12-21-2011, 09:26 AM by Tyler Durden Maybe.)
    Or is it a STS Negative Illuminati Person masquerading as a Fan of David's Site masquerading as the Hidden Hand?

    I can tell you one thing with certainty: If I were in the Illuminati, I would have Double Agents become friends with all the Spiritual Authors & Researchers to keep tabs on them. That's Art of War 101!


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    12-21-2011, 09:31 AM
    (12-21-2011, 02:54 AM)yossarian Wrote: There is so much that goes unsaid in the David Wilcock camp.
    Let me consult my whistleblowers and insiders to reveal important facts about whats really going on with that.
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    #12
    01-17-2012, 02:34 AM
    I came across more information on this which i thought you guys might find interesting.

    The "Armageddon conspiracy" website claims to be written by three actual people from the real ancient illuminati, the GOOD illuminati that created the Freemasons and founded America, before these groups were taken over by evil Satan worshippers.

    Anyway they claim that the "hidden hand" guy was a former member who became mentally unbalanced and they have some other opinions on what was said. Given the tight relationship between HH and the Ra material I thought you guys would like to know.

    http://armageddonconspiracy.co.uk/Double...69753).htm

    Quote:A. We normally deny that “Hidden Hand” has any connection with the Illuminati because it leads to needless and damaging confusion, but the truth is that he was a former member who suffered a mental breakdown. Glimpses of genuine Illuminati teachings can be found in his article, but they are distorted almost beyond recognition. No one should take that article seriously, except as a curiosity.

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    #13
    01-17-2012, 06:30 AM
    you should read DW's new blog dude.

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    01-17-2012, 08:18 AM (This post was last modified: 01-17-2012, 08:39 AM by yossarian.)
    (01-17-2012, 06:30 AM)Oceania Wrote: you should read DW's new blog dude.

    Really? He addresses this? How odd. I will go read it, they are usually so long and repetitive. I get around to them eventually though.
    Ok I read all the updates. Hidden hand is not mentioned. Why did you think it was relevant, Oceania?

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    01-17-2012, 09:03 AM
    it's about the global elite and how they got started. that didn't phase you?

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    yossarian (Offline)

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    01-17-2012, 04:33 PM (This post was last modified: 01-17-2012, 04:40 PM by yossarian.)
    (01-17-2012, 09:03 AM)Oceania Wrote: it's about the global elite and how they got started. that didn't phase you?

    It's old news. David Wilcock's blog is actually just a compilation of other sources and a rehashing of his own previous writing. I literally never learn anything new from his blog. His specialty is compiling stuff into one big conspiracy theory package.

    I am specifically interested in Hidden Hand and whether he is a hoaxer like the David Wilcock team says, or whether he is something else.

    All the conspiracy theory stuff is transient information. I think David justifies it by saying that people need to have hope or they will succumb to despair, which may be true. Of course at the same time he says that the despair is a positive learning experience.

    All in all, conspiracy theorizing is a terrible way to run your life. If David is correct, then you don't need to know about them and they don't matter and you should just focus on your private life. If David is incorrect, then reading his blog is a waste of time.

    Therefore either way you slice it, the lesson from his blog is that you should not read his blog. Somehow I still get suckered into reading every update, I guess I'm just doing it for entertainment.

    The stuff he is correct about, like the federal reserve, is old information which senators like Ron Paul have been repeating since the 80s and before.

    The stuff he does not provide evidence for, like Benjamin Fulford and all his whistleblowers, is useless because it has a terrible track record and is completely untrustworthy.

    The stuff that is non-transient, is just a combination of eastern spirituality, new age spirituality, and the Ra material. And with this stuff he just repeats the same information over and over that we already know, so why are we reading his blog rather than just going into a cave and practicing the teachings?
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    01-08-2017, 07:59 PM
    Therefore either way you slice it the only lesson you get from his blog, is not to read his blog- Ugh God that answer was great. Ahh great response. Thank yuu for that laugh

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    01-18-2017, 09:03 PM
    i think the injection of the hidden hand material was good because it enacted a lot of polarization of unknowns to be introduced to the Law of One through seemingly underhanded tactics.

    I would say that the true understanding is that there is no good and evil, only divine feminine and divine masculine.

    There is only expansion and contraction, and a contraction was required in order for many others to have an expansion in their knowledge set by forcibly creating that Catalyst. Which in the end still does and proves to be successful in it's original intent to polarize as many positive as possible in a story excitement/fear/lack context.

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    01-21-2017, 04:02 AM
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