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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters Parenting and the LOO

    Thread: Parenting and the LOO


    fairyfarmgirl

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    08-16-2010, 04:21 PM
    Thank you, Q you have assisted me in understanding--- I am quite isolated--- and the neighbors are isolated... Everyone is afraid to help each other... and yet they can not resist on talking about others. Interesting times we live in. Such an artificial construct that does not work but everyone blames the individual rather than looking at the whole and addressing the real issues... but if the real issues were addressed then we would have a compassionate society concerned with the welfare of All. Not there yet in this world except in pockets of sanity. It is just so difficult parenting 3 kids that are all highly intelligent, high spirited, and highly energetic. A real challenge now. And then, just like that (I blink) they will be in school fulltime, then off to college/gap years/working and then having families of thier own--- As they grow up it is my hope that we (the ones we have been waiting for-- each and every capable human) are willing to shift our society to a resource based society where all are cared for and all benefit and all are seen as valuable. Where parenting is seen as sacred and supported and children are seen as a sacred gift.

    Just ranting has helped! Now I can return to the mayhem that is my life at this juncture of the childrearing experience with a newer perspective.

    --fairyfarmgirl

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    @ndy (Offline)

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    #32
    08-19-2010, 04:35 PM
    I love this thread Heart - were is that cute kitty pic Blush

    I have 2 little ones 2-4, there both going to a Christian nursery. I was brought up Christian and found it confusing. I'm trying not to push anything on them at this young age as it would only muddle them but the nusery is warm and loving.

    As LOO seems to be something I've lived with without actually 'knowing' it was LOO I'm introducing it threw the sources around us.

    For instance I found an amazing toddler book in the library yesterday ‘The monster who ate darkness' lol it's so deep for a kids book if you look from the right spot.


    'The monster is hungry and small cause it's empty inside, sooo it slowly swallows up all the darkness there is, but it's still empty.... and sad and now and really big.

    It goes of to another planet still all empty and realises the earth is sad too.

    The earth is sad as it's lost its contrast.

    The darkness monster hears a boy calling in the room were it first started to grow (also from the boys fear of darkness)

    It's only when it goes to give the little boy comfort and love that it gives the darkness back up - then in return gets comfort & love from the little boy and goes back to being a tiny dot again ;D

    I'm possibly not describing it well ;D But it's awesome, with lessons to teach adults as well as kids.

    I'm sure as there older and my knowledge of it grows I'll defiantly LOO, but I'm not going to try not to pump my beliefs into my kids.... but try to give them as bigger piccy as I'm able so they can make there own calls.


    I strongly agree with Questioner too - I feel very out of place living in a single family, and in all honesty I'd go as far as I feel I should be in a 'tribe' sharing a male figure with a group of females.
    For me I feel the male energy is quite demanding, and I love the experience of having other women to share things like birth and children with.
    In a pack/tribe The Man gets the attention he wants from all the women, and the women can share there focus with there children, education, them self’s and the 'man'. I guess I'm no feminist Tongue
    I also don't have an answer to what would happen to the other men who didn't get there bunch of people, guess it maybe I just go for more demanding type of male.

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    #33
    08-19-2010, 05:05 PM
    (08-19-2010, 04:35 PM)@ndy Wrote: I love this thread Heart - were is that cute kitty pic Blush

    Cute kitty pic rushes to the rescue!
    [Image: lol-cats_i-love-this-thread-so-much.jpg]

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    fairyfarmgirl

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    #34
    08-20-2010, 07:26 AM
    LOL Smile Smile Thank you!

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    litllady (Offline)

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    08-21-2010, 10:16 AM
    (08-19-2010, 04:35 PM)@ndy Wrote: I love this thread Heart - were is that cute kitty pic Blush

    I have 2 little ones 2-4, there both going to a Christian nursery. I was brought up Christian and found it confusing. I'm trying not to push anything on them at this young age as it would only muddle them but the nusery is warm and loving.

    As LOO seems to be something I've lived with without actually 'knowing' it was LOO I'm introducing it threw the sources around us.

    For instance I found an amazing toddler book in the library yesterday ‘The monster who ate darkness' lol it's so deep for a kids book if you look from the right spot.


    'The monster is hungry and small cause it's empty inside, sooo it slowly swallows up all the darkness there is, but it's still empty.... and sad and now and really big.

    It goes of to another planet still all empty and realises the earth is sad too.

    The earth is sad as it's lost its contrast.

    The darkness monster hears a boy calling in the room were it first started to grow (also from the boys fear of darkness)

    It's only when it goes to give the little boy comfort and love that it gives the darkness back up - then in return gets comfort & love from the little boy and goes back to being a tiny dot again ;D

    I'm possibly not describing it well ;D But it's awesome, with lessons to teach adults as well as kids.

    I'm sure as there older and my knowledge of it grows I'll defiantly LOO, but I'm not going to try not to pump my beliefs into my kids.... but try to give them as bigger piccy as I'm able so they can make there own calls.


    I strongly agree with Questioner too - I feel very out of place living in a single family, and in all honesty I'd go as far as I feel I should be in a 'tribe' sharing a male figure with a group of females.
    For me I feel the male energy is quite demanding, and I love the experience of having other women to share things like birth and children with.
    In a pack/tribe The Man gets the attention he wants from all the women, and the women can share there focus with there children, education, them self’s and the 'man'. I guess I'm no feminist Tongue
    I also don't have an answer to what would happen to the other men who didn't get there bunch of people, guess it maybe I just go for more demanding type of male.

    You mentioned something about taking your children to a Christian nursery. I too use the churches for my children, my son goes to a Christian preschool and I take my kids to several bible school's during the summer time. I find myself having to bite my tongue at times when I listen to the teachers at the Bible school tell them 'we are all sinners' ect. But my kids and I (oldest 12 and 13) talk about what they learn, and we talk about it in a philosophical way. They know (learned this year in fact) that I do not accept Jesus as a savior from sins, they asked many questions this year and I was honest in my thoughts to them. Before this year, I gave more answers of like 'I cant say I know something is absolute truth' or 'I wasnt there when Jesus lived, so I do not know'....and this year was different. My daughter wanted to get baptized...she has never read even one book from the Bible, she knows very little about what its all about, she just knew that the teachers at Bible school were pushing them to get baptized and she felt somewhat as if she should to get that gratification from the church. I told her that being baptized is something you should decide after you can read the Bible in full, as well as study its origins, the cultures ect. It turned out to be a 2 hour talk between me and my 12 year old girl about life, beliefs, faiths, God, ect. She then asked me, 'well if you dont believe everything the church teaches, why do you take us to Bible school'. Again, I was honest with her....I told her that I think its good to know about one of the most popular stories of mankind's history, its good to learn about all religions and histories of what man kind has thought and believed. I told her even though I do not accept all of what the Bible says, I still study it more then any other book, and I think there are great things to learn from the man Jesus. You know what she told me....'Your a really smart Mom and you make me feel so much better when something is bothering me'.

    My son decided he didnt want to go to Bible school this summer...I told him 'that is fine' and never pushed it again with him.

    I would like to have a place one day, a congregating place that welcomes all faiths...to come to and retreat with their families and nature, a place that would have programs for the children to learn love, forgiveness, offering of self, universal benefits....have gardens there to gather food so people can brake breads together, ect.....I told my daughter this when we talked...and she said 'Well then do it mama...make a place like that...I want a place like that too'.

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    #36
    08-21-2010, 12:37 PM
    Your Daughter sounds beautiful litllady. I hope that as for you. That the time will arise naturally to talk about things openly like that.

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    Monica (Offline)

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    08-21-2010, 12:57 PM
    (08-21-2010, 10:16 AM)litllady Wrote: I would like to have a place one day, a congregating place that welcomes all faiths...to come to and retreat with their families and nature, a place that would have programs for the children to learn love, forgiveness, offering of self, universal benefits....have gardens there to gather food so people can brake breads together, ect.....I told my daughter this when we talked...and she said 'Well then do it mama...make a place like that...I want a place like that too'.

    That would be so wonderful!

    We homeschooled our son, and at the time, the only support groups in my area for homeschooling families were Christian. I thought sending him to a Christian homeschool co-op would be beneficial, as it would hopefully instill in him some good values and a general faith in God.

    It worked fine when he was little, but when he got to be a teen, it turned disastrous. The leaders of the co-op could not handle his questions and independent thinking. They expected blind obedience and conformity, both of which he found not just distasteful but reprehensible, due to the free way in which he was raised. And I could no longer expect him to keep his mouth shut all the time, as he did when he was little.

    He ended up with a very bad taste in his mouth regarding religious people, so then I had to try to undo that damage, which was difficult because, in our case, the people really were hypocritical and judgmental. They were much more concerned with who was 'saved' and who wasn't, than with instilling values of love, forgiveness, and compassion.

    So then I had the task of helping him differentiate between religious dogma and the (usually nice) people who adhere to that dogma. Thankfully, he understood about not judging individuals, but still, the overall experience definitely was far more harmful than beneficial.

    When he was little, I got him Bible stories to read, along with Buddhist stories, New Age fairy tales, etc. I didn't let him read violent stories or see violent movies until he was much older. Thus, I found myself in the surprisingly unexpected position of having to evaluate the Bible! I ended up removing it from his buffet of reading materials. It did not meet the criteria I had set for what was appropriate for my child. Stories about Jesus were wonderful, of course, but the old testament was blacklisted.

    I think it's wonderful that you are able to talk so openly with your kids, and I hope the Christian school works out better for your family than it did for mine. I am just sharing my own experience, which I deeply regret. In my case, were I able to do it over again, I would not subject my child to the religious environment, other than perhaps occasional visits to various churches, just for the experience.

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    litllady (Offline)

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    #38
    08-22-2010, 08:11 PM
    (08-21-2010, 12:57 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:
    (08-21-2010, 10:16 AM)litllady Wrote: I would like to have a place one day, a congregating place that welcomes all faiths...to come to and retreat with their families and nature, a place that would have programs for the children to learn love, forgiveness, offering of self, universal benefits....have gardens there to gather food so people can brake breads together, ect.....I told my daughter this when we talked...and she said 'Well then do it mama...make a place like that...I want a place like that too'.

    That would be so wonderful!

    We homeschooled our son, and at the time, the only support groups in my area for homeschooling families were Christian. I thought sending him to a Christian homeschool co-op would be beneficial, as it would hopefully instill in him some good values and a general faith in God.

    It worked fine when he was little, but when he got to be a teen, it turned disastrous. The leaders of the co-op could not handle his questions and independent thinking. They expected blind obedience and conformity, both of which he found not just distasteful but reprehensible, due to the free way in which he was raised. And I could no longer expect him to keep his mouth shut all the time, as he did when he was little.

    He ended up with a very bad taste in his mouth regarding religious people, so then I had to try to undo that damage, which was difficult because, in our case, the people really were hypocritical and judgmental. They were much more concerned with who was 'saved' and who wasn't, than with instilling values of love, forgiveness, and compassion.

    So then I had the task of helping him differentiate between religious dogma and the (usually nice) people who adhere to that dogma. Thankfully, he understood about not judging individuals, but still, the overall experience definitely was far more harmful than beneficial.

    When he was little, I got him Bible stories to read, along with Buddhist stories, New Age fairy tales, etc. I didn't let him read violent stories or see violent movies until he was much older. Thus, I found myself in the surprisingly unexpected position of having to evaluate the Bible! I ended up removing it from his buffet of reading materials. It did not meet the criteria I had set for what was appropriate for my child. Stories about Jesus were wonderful, of course, but the old testament was blacklisted.

    I think it's wonderful that you are able to talk so openly with your kids, and I hope the Christian school works out better for your family than it did for mine. I am just sharing my own experience, which I deeply regret. In my case, were I able to do it over again, I would not subject my child to the religious environment, other than perhaps occasional visits to various churches, just for the experience.

    Thanks for sharing Monica...it has been on my mind lately.

    My son, like I said, decided on his own...no more. My daughter, goes to the little summer program (it only last 2 weeks) more for social gathering since the middle of summer time she is missing friends. After her and I had our little talk...she really carried herself 'taller' at the summer school. I think she felt like she had a right to her own mind and free that she did not have to conform 'just because'. I still encouraged her to the stories of Jesus and told her that I have learned so much about love and offering from him.

    Im sure the full time involvement with the religion would be much more influential then 2 weeks out of the summer time....and I have worried that even that 2 weeks was too much.

    Now my preschooler, will only attend at the church for a year. Then he will move onto public schools. I dont worry about him being influenced in the religious aspect of the schooling, but I hope he is in the care of loving people more then anything.

    We live in a Bible belt, I moved here about 7 years ago. I often think about the stories that say a man should go to a different land then what they were raised in, to spread 'wisdom'. And here I am in the Bible belt of Bama Angel

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    08-22-2010, 08:52 PM
    (08-22-2010, 08:11 PM)litllady Wrote: My son, like I said, decided on his own...no more. My daughter, goes to the little summer program (it only last 2 weeks) more for social gathering since the middle of summer time she is missing friends.

    Oh I wouldn't worry about a couple of weeks! Nor did I worry when my son was little. It only became a problem for us when he was a teenager.

    Sounds like you have a great perspective on it and are doing a great job with teaching your kids to be independent thinkers!

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    08-23-2010, 09:09 AM
    (08-21-2010, 12:37 PM)@ndy Wrote: Your Daughter sounds beautiful litllady. I hope that as for you. That the time will arise naturally to talk about things openly like that.

    Thanks for your warmth...Its wonderful watching them grow outwardly and inwardly!

    And thanks Monica for your kind encouragement always.

    Always gaining love when I come to this forum Heart

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    08-24-2010, 04:28 PM
    I would say these things are important:

    * Don't get in their way-
    I prefer the approach of disinterested/unattached engagement. So let them be interested in Law of One first. Believe me they will, when they see you so devoted to it. Let them come to a point of understanding when they are ready for certain things. Not all have the same requirement and we have to respect the individuality.


    * Provide all the necessary support-
    Just like a plant needs water and fertilizer and sun light and we have to provide it to them or they wither. In the same manner provide these support items for them to explore their talents and grow. The support could be in the form of your time, money and encouragement or just guidance when they are looking for it. So answer all their questions in details when they ask them and never ridicule them for asking questions.


    * Teach by example-
    The best teaching of the Law of One is done by showing them in practice. The words are transitory but the actions are permanent teacher. They learn more by watching you and absorbing the vibes psychically.

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