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    @ndy (Offline)

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    #1
    10-10-2010, 02:26 PM (This post was last modified: 10-10-2010, 02:40 PM by @ndy.)
    I was curious if the Q’uo had ever mentioned the dance culture?
    Or any other channel for that matter anyone knows of .

    I'm pondering it on a galactic scale Smile Along with the evolution of humans

    It was a big part of my life for many years pre 2000. Looking back I can equate the style of energy release to Kundalini... but on a massive group scale.
    I remember the free party culture, spiral tribe, acid house, groups like spiritualised and the 100's more. Friends of mine felt they 'were on a mission from god’ to spread drugs & the music - hundreds of thousands people involved over many years.

    I have my own feelings about this; I’m interested to know if it was ever mentioned in any messages.

    Thank you Smile

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    10-10-2010, 02:35 PM
    I'm not aware of any channeled info on it. I don't know much about the rave culture, being that I'm of an older generation, but it seems to me to be a variation of the hippie music/drug culture of the 1960s. What they have in common is an altering of consciousness via drugs, and a bonding/connecting via music.

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    10-10-2010, 02:43 PM
    Thanks Monica.

    Did they comment on 1960's thing? I'm just curious about a wider take on the issue of drugs music as it's something that has happened over the course of human evolution. I see it all tied in the punk culture too Smile

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    Ali Quadir (Offline)

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    10-10-2010, 02:51 PM
    Terence McKenna made a song with the scottish rave band The Shamen in the 90s. In which he explained the psychedelic universe and touches unto the rave culture. He basically sees it as the wave that will bring us from history into an expanded awareness.

    I've quoted the lyrics for your pleasure. It's the only rave related reference I know of... But it's a biggie, that song was like my bible for at least a decade. I had not read it for years. It's really powerful stuff.

    The last paragraph refers to rave music.

    Quote: "If the truth can be told so as to be understood it will be believed"

    Human history represents such a radical break with the natural systems of biological organisation that preceded it that it must be the response to a kind of attractor or dwell point that lies ahead in the temporal dimension.
    Persistently western religions have integrated into their theologies the notion of a kind of end of the world. And I think that a lot of psychedelic experimentation sort of confirms this intuition.
    I mean it isn't going to happen according to any of the scenarios of orthodox religion, but the basic intuition that the universe seeks closure in a kind of Omega point of transcendence is confirmed.
    It's almost as though this object in hyperspace, glittering in hyperspace, throws off reflections of itself, which actually ricochet into the past, illuminating this mystic, inspiring that saint or visionary, and that out of these fragmentary glimpses of Eternity we can build a kind of a map of not only the past universe and the evolutionary ingression into novelty, but a kind of map of the future.
    This is what Shamanism has always been about.
    A Shaman is someone who has been to the end.
    It is someone who knows how the world really works, and knowing how the world really works, means to have risen outside, above, beyond the dimensions of ordinary spacetime and cozooistry and actually seen the wiring under the board: stepped outside the confines of learned culture and learned and embedded language into the domain of Wittgenstein called the unspeakable, the Transcendental presence of the Other, which can be sectioned in various ways to yield Systems of Knowledge which can be brought back into ordinary social space for the good of the Community.
    So in the context of 90% of human culture, the Shaman has been the Agent of Evolution, because the Shaman learns techniques to go between ordinary reality and the domain of the ideas: this higher dimensional continuum that is somehow parallel to us, available to us and yet ordinarily occluded to us by cultural convention out of the fear of the Mystery, I believe, and what the Shamans are, are people who have been able to de-condition themselves from the community's instinctual distrust of the Mystery, and go into this bewildering Higher Dimension, and gain Knowledge, recover the jewel lost at the Beginning of Time, save souls, cure, commune with the Ancestors and so forth and so on.
    Shamanism is not a religion - it's a set of techniques, and the Principle Technique is the use of psychedelic plants.
    What psychedelics do is they dissolve boundaries; and in the presence of dissolved boundaries One cannot continue to close One's eyes to the ruination of the Earth, the poisoning of the Seas and the consequences of two thousand years of unchallenged Dominator culture, based on Monotheism, hatred of Nature, suppression of the Female and so forth and so on.
    So, what Shamans have to do is act as exemplars by making this cosmic journey to the domain of the Gaian Ideas, and then bringing them back in the form of Art, to the struggle to Save the World.
    The Planet has a kind of intelligence, that it can actually Open a Channel of communication with an individual human being.
    The message that Nature sends is transform your language through a synergy between Electronic culture and the Psychedelic Imagination; a synergy between Dance and Idea; a synergy between Understanding and Intuition, and dissolve the boundaries which your culture has sanctioned between you.
    Become part of this Gaian Supermind.
    I mean I think it's fairly profound, it's fairly Apocalyptic.
    History is ending, I mean we are to be the generation that witnesses the Revelation of the purpose of the Cosmos.
    History is the shock wave of the Eschaton.
    History is the shock wave of Eschatology.
    And what this means for those of us who will live through this transition into Hyperspace is that we will be privileged to see the greatest release of Concressed Change probably since the birth of the Universe.
    The twentieth Century is the shudder that announces the approaching Cataracts of Time over which our Species and the destiny of this Planet is about to be swept.

    "If the truth can be told so as to be understood it will be believed"

    The emphasis in House music and rave culture on physiologically compatible rhythms, and this sort of thing, is really the re-discovery of the art of Natural Magic with sound.
    That sound, properly understood, especially percussive sound, can actually change neurological states, and large groups of people getting together in the presence of this kind of music are creating a telepathic community, a bonding, that hopefully will be strong enough to carry the Vision out into the main stream of Society.
    I think the Youth culture that is emerging in the nineties is an End of the Millennium culture that is actually summing up Western Civilisation, and pointing us in an entirely different direction; that we are going to arrive in the Third Millennium in the middle of an Archaic revival which will mean a revival of these physiologically empowering rhythm signatures, a new Art, a new Social Vision, a new relationship to Nature, to Feminism, to Ego - all of these things are taking hold, and not a Moment too Soon.

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    10-10-2010, 03:31 PM (This post was last modified: 10-10-2010, 03:33 PM by @ndy.)
    Thanks Ali Smile

    It's a long while since I herd the Shaman and I must confess to never having read the lyrics so I thank you.

    Oddly while you posted this I was going to post that I was interested if anyone with Shamanic knowledge had any feedback.

    I was what my boyfriend at the time would describe as a mindless drug Hoover. To me I never took drugs lightly but had total love and respect for were they would take me, having little else in my life at that time - like many of us I surrendered totally to the experience.
    I recall nights of dancing in 'space' with the music as a heart beat and us, the crowd as waves in its wake.
    The feeling of blending with the beat and the 100's of other people around you is a little indescribable.
    My friends were the Dj's, promoters people making the music or dealers.... but noone made a profit - it was all to experience and enjoy, I would sell drugs - only to finance my own inclusion in the event and so it was.

    My partner at the time told me on several occasions he felt he was on a 'mission from god' to spread the drugs and music Tongue
    I have an interest in the 'collective consciousness' of a time Smile - I’m pondering my journey and just trying to lay my finger on the vibe of that time.

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    10-10-2010, 03:58 PM
    I don't think I can answer that. I never really was a raver. I liked the music but hung with the metal crowd myself. It is certainly a transcendental experience, you massively created and tapped into a collective consciousness. The problem is that people bring their baggage to those kinds of events. Apart from the good things you must have seen bad things happen too.

    I guess it's an objective statement to say that it was risky and tremendously satisfying to those involved.

    But the underlying technology I think is real.

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    10-10-2010, 04:57 PM
    Thanks Ali,

    Interesting to here an outsider perspective Smile
    I was lucky to avoid much that was negative myself - but I certainly felt when my time was up with the scene.

    I guess I’ll save the philosophy of online gaming for another date Smile

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    10-10-2010, 09:40 PM
    (10-10-2010, 04:57 PM)@ndy Wrote: Thanks Ali,

    Interesting to here an outsider perspective Smile
    I was lucky to avoid much that was negative myself - but I certainly felt when my time was up with the scene.

    I guess I’ll save the philosophy of online gaming for another date Smile

    Those powerful and profoundly epic moments that are experienced while at such festivals is very intense and full of Love.

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