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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Strictly Law of One Material what are the ways in which we avoid catalyst?

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    Sacred Fool (Offline)

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    06-04-2020, 10:01 AM (This post was last modified: 06-04-2020, 02:10 PM by Sacred Fool.)
       

    https://www.llresearch.org/newsletters/i...987_4.aspx Wrote:The concept of the Christ was this: that intelligent infinity, as experienced by the Logos and with the bias of the Logos, would enter a third-density experience, not erasing the one known as Jesus’ personality or being, but coming into the closest possible harmony with that being. There needed to be one who wished to sacrifice an incarnation to the ever-increasing pleasure and agony of the Creator, experiencing what this instrument would call the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, for it is the nature of the Christ and the nature of third density that the two, perceiving each other, should react-the third density with a lack of understanding and the Christ with wonder, joy and sacrifice. Such is the sorrow of your illusion and the joy of sensation and communion.

    This is "Not my will, but Thine be done."  It's a very advanced level of offering one's consciousness to the Creator.
      
      
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    06-04-2020, 10:03 AM
    Well for me, I set the intention that I am a crystal through which the Universe can shine.

    And it still lets me explore my passion of anthros and bring that joy into this world through Creation.

    I have been on the cross metaphorically. I am going through ego death, and it is painful.

    But it is so cathartic about what awaits. I am almost hysterical from the bliss and joy of Intelligent Infinity.
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    06-04-2020, 10:07 AM
    (06-04-2020, 12:10 AM)flofrog Wrote: Small question here.  Does it mean that in this kind of work, you amplify your pain ? as a gift to Creator ?

    If you are referring to:

    Quote:Ra: The entity polarizing positively perceives the anger. This entity, if using this catalyst mentally, blesses and loves this angerin itself. It then intensifies this anger consciously in mind alone until the folly of this red-ray energy is perceived not as folly in itself but as energy subject to spiritual entropy due to the randomness of energy being used.

    Positive orientation then provides the will and faith to continue this mentally intense experience of letting the anger be understood, accepted, and integrated with the mind/body/spirit complex. The other-self which is the object of anger is thus transformed into an object of acceptance, understanding, and accommodation, all being reintegrated using the great energy which anger began.

    Then this is about understanding the randomness and inefficiency of this type of emotional energy, and making order out of it. I can extrapolate and say this is for all pain, or maybe everything—joy, sorrow, confusion, despair, etc.—as ultimately, the end goal would be acceptance and love (love being something undefinable using words according to Ra).

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    06-04-2020, 03:34 PM (This post was last modified: 06-04-2020, 03:35 PM by flofrog.)
    Thank you Diana, very clear.

    Thank you Peregrine, I kept forgetting that.

    I do find that I do not have tons of anger for this last decade, but I have very little fear left of anything also, and that might be why. I love the gentle place inward that peregrine is talking about, where to allow things. It describes this space we have very well.

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    06-04-2020, 03:53 PM
    (06-03-2020, 08:23 PM)Agua Wrote: @sillypumpkims

    I would say it is a misunderstanding.
    The situation is not the trigger for the catalyst.
    The trigger is the catalyst.

    Catalyst is just another word for trigger.

    I guess it has been chosen to indicate that its an event exterior or interior that is „inherently“ neutral (as opposed to labeling it negative just because it triggers a negative response).

    It so to say catalyzes a process.

    It implies that the event is not causing your emotional reaction but triggering emotions that have already been in you, just below the threshhold of your awareness.

    It further implies that its about focusing on your response rather than on the trigger.
    Usually we focus on the trigger Smile

    I strongly disagree with equating catalyst with "trigger" and I strongly disagree with the concept of "being triggered" or something being "a trigger". A trigger is something which has to be pulled to initiate a specific movement. If you have an emotional trigger you are saying you have something which can be pulled which will then initiate a specific response. The language treats the trigger as being something outside of self, the trigger is usually what is in some media, or literature, or conversation. The person or thing responsible for making the triggering material or remarks (or exposing you to the triggering material) then becomes responsible for your emotional state. The same as a person is responsible for pulling the trigger of a gun, or turning on a machine.

    This is a way of offloading the responsibility for your emotional state onto other people. Calling catalyst a trigger then is the same as saying the catalyst is responsible for your emotional response. This way of viewing the world is one of separation. You exist in your sphere and other things outside of self can control the self, by pressing the right buttons and pulling the right triggers.

    If you read a book such as "The Child Called It", you might be "triggered". Or you can more accurately say you "became angry/depressed/fearful". The difference is that when you "become" it is an action of the self, which can learn to be changed, and is the responsibility of the self.

    Catalyst has the meaning in chemistry of a chemical which accelerates a chemical reaction. Ra was very specific in choice of words, and in this case I think catalyst was chosen to describe experience in general which is then used to do work accelerating polarization. We focus on the emotional part of catalyst a lot. However physical pain is also described as catalyst quite often by Ra and Don. More broadly any experience which causes a reaction in the body/mind/spirit complex can be considered a catalyst.

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    06-04-2020, 06:13 PM (This post was last modified: 01-13-2021, 01:31 PM by Agua.)
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    #67
    06-04-2020, 07:51 PM
    (06-04-2020, 06:13 PM)Agua Wrote: @Dtris

    You might want to re-read my post Wink

    I didnt say that which you diagree with, quite the opposite actually.
    I quote myself:

    „It implies that the event is not causing your emotional reaction but triggering emotions that have already been in you, just below the threshhold of your awareness„

    I was aware of what you meant. We agree in principle and application but I wanted to make a broader point about language and how it can have subtle influences. These influences can be harmful or beneficial but more importantly we should be aware of them.

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