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    #1
    01-17-2013, 03:05 PM
    dear folks,
    i'd like to share a pic with ya. it's about forgiveness.

    [Image: 545239_10151297052699690_1392862919_n.jpg]

    wishing good
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    #2
    01-17-2013, 03:07 PM
    Thank you. I have quite a many things I need to forgive myself for.

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    02-23-2014, 01:53 PM
    i just read in the news about this lady that microwaved a cat to death...it took about an hour for it to die bc of breathing difficulties. :'(

    i don't see me ever being able her unless she gets to experience exactly what all the cat went thru.

    [Image: ce0d50c68e44ccc3310866f762f4c635a846f023...32d013.jpg]

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    02-23-2014, 02:06 PM
    We are one right? What goes around comes around, she will experience what she put that cat through surely, and in time, unfortunately, so will we.

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    02-23-2014, 02:30 PM (This post was last modified: 02-23-2014, 02:31 PM by Parsons.)
    (02-23-2014, 01:53 PM)truesimultaneity Wrote: i just read in the news about this lady that microwaved a cat to death...it took about an hour for it to die bc of breathing difficulties. :'(

    i don't see me ever being able her unless she gets to experience exactly what all the cat went thru.

    http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/ce/ce0d50c68...32d013.jpg

    If your life is full incidents like this where you choose not to forgive, you tie yourself karmically to each perceived offender. Forgiveness isn't so much for the one being forgiven, but much more for the one doing the forgiving.
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    02-23-2014, 02:31 PM
    The One Creator experiences ever increasing pleasure and agony.

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    02-23-2014, 03:21 PM
    (02-23-2014, 02:30 PM)Parsons Wrote:
    (02-23-2014, 01:53 PM)truesimultaneity Wrote: i just read in the news about this lady that microwaved a cat to death...it took about an hour for it to die bc of breathing difficulties. :'(

    i don't see me ever being able her unless she gets to experience exactly what all the cat went thru.

    http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/ce/ce0d50c68...32d013.jpg

    If your life is full incidents like this where you choose not to forgive, you tie yourself karmically to each perceived offender. Forgiveness isn't so much for the one being forgiven, but much more for the one doing the forgiving.
    weird, i left out the words "to forgive"...normally i only leave out 1 word. it brings me great peace & happiness knowing i don't have to forgive.

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    #8
    02-23-2014, 05:05 PM
    Yes, forgiving is really hard. It's not enough to say to somebody else: "I forgive you."

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    02-23-2014, 06:35 PM
    (02-23-2014, 05:05 PM)Poet Wrote: Yes, forgiving is really hard. It's not enough to say to somebody else: "I forgive you."

    Yes, the external vocalization is essentially meaningless. Its how your really feel about it (like it or not) that matters.
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    02-23-2014, 07:17 PM
    I feel forgiveness is massively important in the positive path. I am currently doing these affirmations to forgive certain people. I feel that sometimes the difference of successfully moving from one step to another, rather than it going all so horribly intense and wrong, is how you are able to forgive and not attach to all the things that come up.
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    02-23-2014, 08:30 PM
    it's not like i constantly dwell on w/e it is that was done that i can't forgive nor do i waste any time thinking about the "perceived offender" so i don't see how it harms me to be incapable of forgiving some1 nor do i see how it's even remotely my fault if i can't forgive

    from where i'm sitting, forgiveness isn't an emotion u can force yourself to feel no matter how badly u want to

    when i say i don't/won't forgive some1 that's me saying i'll never look at the situation with indifference/acceptance but always with a frown (that i can't help) & i'll choose to look at the situation/person never again if i can help it

    i think if u don't think some things are unforgivable then your imagination isn't too good. things being unforgivable could've caused the creator to invent forgetting

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    02-23-2014, 08:37 PM (This post was last modified: 02-23-2014, 08:39 PM by Parsons.)
    Everything is forgiveable when you see all as the Creator, including any personality committing any act. Coupled with the fact we are all simply playing our roles.

    Or simply read my signature. Smile
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    02-23-2014, 08:43 PM
    Forgetting makes sense. Some things are so traumatic that we end up forgetting them.
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    02-23-2014, 09:45 PM (This post was last modified: 02-23-2014, 09:47 PM by Patrick.)
    (02-23-2014, 08:30 PM)truesimultaneity Wrote: ...
    from where i'm sitting, forgiveness isn't an emotion u can force yourself to feel no matter how badly u want to
    ...

    IMHO, forgiveness is at the heart of STO polarization. It's the corner stone of acceptance/positivity.

    No one is expecting us to be able to fully forgive everything and anything. But I believe that having the intent to forgive is achievable to everyone walking the STO path.

    This intent is the first and greatest step towards the stoppage of the wheel of karma.
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    02-23-2014, 09:50 PM
    How do we know if we've forgiven everything? Enough to take us off the wheel of Karma. I don't want there to be unconscious things I'm holding onto that are holding me back from STO.

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    02-23-2014, 10:14 PM
    (02-23-2014, 09:50 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: How do we know if we've forgiven everything? Enough to take us off the wheel of Karma. I don't want there to be unconscious things I'm holding onto that are holding me back from STO.
    i see what you're getting at.

    *imagines that the cat incarnated in order to be microwaved, bc that's what it wanted, bc it was/is a weird mofo.*

    forgiveness done. moving right along...nothing/no1 else to forgive anymore for the time being (& i feel just as peaceful as i did went i hadn't forgiven the lady)

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    02-23-2014, 10:58 PM
    (02-23-2014, 09:50 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: How do we know if we've forgiven everything? Enough to take us off the wheel of Karma. I don't want there to be unconscious things I'm holding onto that are holding me back from STO.

    I do not believe it is possible when incarnated in 3d. And forgiveness of everything is certainly not a requirement of harvest to 4d. Once in 4d I believe it will be much easier to work on forgiving/accepting your self for any misstep you perceive.

    I find it much easier to forgive others than it is to forgive my self.
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    02-23-2014, 11:06 PM
    Forgiving everything is quite a feat lol. I think it would be a very deep sense of peace and catalyst are consciously created instead of being 'blind sided' by them. Things might not bother you like it does before. You may interpret catalyst in very different ways, esp in positive ways.

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    02-24-2014, 01:10 AM
    (02-23-2014, 11:06 PM)rie Wrote: Forgiving everything is quite a feat lol. I think it would be a very deep sense of peace and catalyst are consciously created instead of being 'blind sided' by them. Things might not bother you like it does before. You may interpret catalyst in very different ways, esp in positive ways.

    I seem to have forgiven everything and everyone except my mother... That has been quite challenging despite many attempts. I always think I have accomplished forgiveness of her but later find myself resenting her in some way.

    I suppose I am not bothered nearly as much by many things, but I'm not sure if that is simply my general personality or is a result of the forgiveness of (nearly) everyone.
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    02-24-2014, 07:33 PM
    we have the Power to forgive even the unforgivable
    to transform the dragging baggage of experience in to a sail of experience that we trim to catch the dynamic wind of change
    after all... Life is not a multitude of experiences, it is one unending experience with phases of succession within it self...
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    02-24-2014, 07:46 PM
    (02-24-2014, 07:33 PM)Raz Wrote: we have the Power to forgive even the unforgivable
    to transform the dragging baggage of experience in to a sail of experience that we trim to catch the dynamic wind of change
    after all... Life is not a multitude of experiences, it is one unending experience with phases of succession within it self...
    there's no such thing as the unforgivable. try as they might, nothing & no1 can be permanently unforgivable

    "all will be reconciled" ~Ra
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    02-24-2014, 08:26 PM (This post was last modified: 02-24-2014, 08:27 PM by reeay.)
    I love this site:
    http://theforgivenessproject.com/
    http://theforgivenessproject.com/stories/
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    02-25-2014, 09:15 AM (This post was last modified: 02-25-2014, 06:42 PM by Raz.)
    (02-24-2014, 07:46 PM)truesimultaneity Wrote: there's no such thing as the unforgivable. try as they might, nothing & no1 can be permanently unforgivable

    "all will be reconciled" ~Ra
    even though this is ultimately true, it can be hard to integrate in a human point of view.

    There will be times where my mind will try to convince me that something is "unforgivable" on an unconscious level. I can’t see it, but I feel it. Rather than argue with that feeling, and present logical evidence to why it should be forgivable I simply remind myself that I can and choose to forgive from deep within my heart, without logic or reason, even what is viewed as unforgivable at this time. Saves me a lot of energy in dissolving that splinter in my mind.

    Knowing from experience that everything is ridiculously safe helps but is not required.
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