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    #1
    04-19-2014, 12:18 AM
    Moderation is key but without attachment you become as stagnant as the man in excess. Know thy self, know thy limits in hunger. Hunger without satiation is the path of the negative polarity. The positive polarity is without will, will only being used to defend its beingness.

    Simply know thy will and you shall become what you are. This truth is what brings all into unity.

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    04-19-2014, 07:10 AM
    I assure you, it takes will to be of service to others. Positive polarity isn't about passive radiation at all times, the will is used in exploration, in inquiry, in exchange and loving interaction among many other things. Rather, the positive polarity merely isn't possessive towards the feeling of having the will. Will is seen to be something which is universal and not merely "mine". At least, this is how I understand the positive polarity.

    If by "know thy will" you mean establish an awareness of one's own desires then yes that allows you to most directly access your own identity, but one should not mistake one's desires for one's identity.
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    04-19-2014, 12:02 PM
    The will always leads to hunger. Hunger, my friend, is not sustainable in any polarity. Discern well.

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    04-19-2014, 12:04 PM
    Will is required to polarize either way.

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    04-19-2014, 12:10 PM
    To polarize positively with great attachments is to find great weariness. Will is but a tool. The entity of the positive path has no attachments to fulfill through will alone.

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    04-19-2014, 12:36 PM
    Quote:73.11 Questioner: Desire and will are key factors in the process. Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. We would add one quality. In the magical personality desire, will, and polarity are the keys.

    It seems that will power plays a major role in the positive path, the more we progress the stronger the will as the adept dawns.
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    04-19-2014, 03:40 PM
    What polarity desires magical ability?

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    04-19-2014, 03:56 PM
    I would say both polarities work deeply with desire. The seeking and development of power in a balance with love and light can be used to create greater work in consciousness, thus more intensive service in the positive sense.
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    04-19-2014, 04:50 PM
    Desire and will are great things.

    Attachment to those desires is what turns desire into something more controlling. It can also get confusing when we confuse distortion for desire and vice versa.

    But at the end of the day, desire in particular makes life fun to live, among other things.

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    04-19-2014, 05:08 PM
    (04-19-2014, 12:18 AM)Adonai One Wrote: Simply know thy will and you shall become what you are.

    what have you learnt of your will Adonai?

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    04-19-2014, 07:00 PM
    (04-19-2014, 12:02 PM)Adonai One Wrote: The will always leads to hunger. Hunger, my friend, is not sustainable in any polarity. Discern well.
    This makes no sense to me. The will, as you say, is a tool, so how can it "lead" to a state of desire which already exists?

    (04-19-2014, 03:40 PM)Adonai One Wrote: What polarity desires magical ability?

    Both. One for the purpose of serving the self, and the other for the serving of others.

    Quote:Instead, we appreciate and recommend the use of your second verb in regard to the use of the will. Acceptance of self, forgiveness of self, and the direction of the will; this is the path towards the disciplined personality. Your faculty of will is that which is powerful within you as co-Creator. You cannot ascribe to this faculty too much importance. Thus it must be carefully used and directed in service to others for those upon the positively oriented path.

    There is great danger in the use of the will as the personality becomes stronger, for it may be used even subconsciously in ways reducing the polarity of the entity.

    The will must be used with conscious awareness, wisdom and love to be used according to the positive path. Yes, there is danger, but that does not mean all fall victim to such danger.
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    #12
    04-19-2014, 08:07 PM (This post was last modified: 04-19-2014, 08:09 PM by Adonai One.)
    What is absolute will? How does the will lead to change? How does the will differ in polarities?

    (04-19-2014, 05:08 PM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote:
    (04-19-2014, 12:18 AM)Adonai One Wrote: Simply know thy will and you shall become what you are.

    what have you learnt of your will Adonai?

    It is nearing a state of peace as the self becomes inherently known to me. I will become who I am.

    (04-19-2014, 04:50 PM)xise Wrote: Desire and will are great things.

    Attachment to those desires is what turns desire into something more controlling. It can also get confusing when we confuse distortion for desire and vice versa.

    But at the end of the day, desire in particular makes life fun to live, among other things.

    Is a desire necessarily an attachment?

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    04-19-2014, 08:14 PM
    "Absolute will" does not make any sense to me. Absolute in regards to what? Do you mean absolute to mean to the exclusion of love or other things? Or do you mean "the absolute unity of all will"?

    The will is focused through concentration and change is the activity of this concentration. The will does not differ between polarities, it is used differently.

    To me, the will is electrical, and faith is magnetic. They are the "polarities" or aspects of love, the mechanisms of the focus of free will.

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    04-19-2014, 08:19 PM
    What happens when all choice is explored? I cannot go further than this for I will not spell my point without a necessary desire to seek. I find myself at an impasse in my ability to discuss as all parties are left to defend their understanding. I seek teaching/learning that is equitable in the laws of responsibility. I will continue if my presence is desired.

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    04-19-2014, 08:24 PM
    Aha Well if you are just going to ask questions in response to other questions, then it will be circular. I do not know what happens when all choice is explored as I have yet to find an "end" to choice. Perhaps you can share your point of view more directly and that will aid me, and others, to understand what you are trying to express and share with us.

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    04-19-2014, 08:31 PM (This post was last modified: 04-19-2014, 08:32 PM by Adonai One.)
    I wish to only evoke The Law of One. Are we not all things? If so, then why change what is inherently one? Why choose? Is choice necessary if the self is inherently known? Should not choice be without expectation if the self is only expected to be found? Are not all expectations a result of a will powered by attachment? I only wish to express unity in that will is only necessary to empower if change is desired. I desire not to change the creation but be who I am. That is all I wish to express.

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    #17
    04-19-2014, 08:34 PM
    Is not change also part of being all that is? Is not change part of who you are as well?

    I agree with you in your expression although I do not necessarily see the 'horizons' of your view.

    Also, if it is not too personal to ask, who are you?

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    04-19-2014, 08:54 PM
    (04-19-2014, 08:07 PM)Adonai One Wrote:
    (04-19-2014, 05:08 PM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote:
    (04-19-2014, 12:18 AM)Adonai One Wrote: Simply know thy will and you shall become what you are.

    what have you learnt of your will Adonai?

    It is nearing a state of peace as the self becomes inherently known to me. I will become who I am.


    ah cool. Thank you Adonai.

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    04-19-2014, 09:44 PM
    Is not free will the first distortion of the Law of One?

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    04-19-2014, 11:26 PM
    Becoming a dual transmitter/receiver, receiving/transmitting the transmission without lower triad colouring or lack of experience distorting it.

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    04-20-2014, 12:02 PM
    Conscious evolution (which polarization is an enabling factor past a certain threshold) is the conscious application of one's awareness (if that wasn't obvious) otherwise known as will. You're not going to get very far without it lolz

    btw, poetic language is not rational language, unfortunately. I'm sorry to say but I really would advise that's not great to build axioms of a (any) belief using that kind of language. It also makes it hard to communicate, misunderstandings will abound if even a single party talks in poetic or ecstatic terms.

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    04-20-2014, 12:37 PM (This post was last modified: 04-20-2014, 12:37 PM by Adonai One.)
    (04-19-2014, 09:44 PM)sunnysideup Wrote: Is not free will the first distortion of the Law of One?

    Free will is without will once known to its entity. Free will is respected to allow this exploration. This is my distortion/understanding.

    I cannot speak further.

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    04-20-2014, 01:42 PM (This post was last modified: 04-20-2014, 01:49 PM by xise.)
    (04-19-2014, 08:07 PM)Adonai One Wrote: Is a desire necessarily an attachment?

    Desire and attachment are two different things.

    Desire is the wanting or preference for something; attachment is the emotional turmoil caused by the lack of fulfillment of desire.

    I love strawberries. I desire them. But I really don't get torn up inside when they're not available. I'm not attached to them. A part of life is desire, but a part of life is also having desires go unfulfilled (at least occasionally for the positive path of acceptance). The lack of understanding of the latter leads to attachment.
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    04-20-2014, 04:22 PM
    Quote:Free will is without will once known to its entity. Free will is respected to allow this exploration. This is my distortion/understanding.
    I cannot speak further.

    Alright brother. Although our views may differ, I respect your understanding. I was merely trying to catch your train of thoughts.
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    04-20-2014, 05:52 PM (This post was last modified: 04-20-2014, 05:56 PM by Adonai One.)
    This entity attempts communications in this way so it may teach/learn a philosophy that is in consonance with the laws of free will and responsibility. There have been interruptions in this communication that are what we would consider less than humble. This is due to the openness of this channel. We wish to state that this entity should be able to state its own view without fear. We encourage this entity to post without relying on the approval of any entity. There has been no request made to have the entity to channel consistently but rather channel according to its will.

    This is only said to clear any confusion that is had. Not all communications have been from a singular entity but this one, that chooses to be without name, desires to communicate that this entity is not without will for some have become confused as to the nature of this entity's work.

    It should be stated that there is no implication of the origin of this contacted entity. It should be stated that this is not said to claim that this entity has done this in a improper way but that there is much confusion surrounding these posts that should be corrected, if possible. We are sorry for any infringement that has occurred.
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