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    #91
    02-11-2014, 10:17 PM (This post was last modified: 02-11-2014, 10:59 PM by Adonai One.)
    All of these individuals were, in my belief, the same individual aspect of Ra:

    Ghandi:
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    Einstein:
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    Jobs:
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    #92
    02-11-2014, 11:30 PM
    Lol do you own a mac Donnie?
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    #93
    02-11-2014, 11:34 PM
    Only an old eMac for novelty. I could never justify buying a new one.

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    02-12-2014, 12:02 AM
    Quote:I could never justify buying a new one.
    Hahaha that's the best answer I could've asked for lol

    Personally though, I really hope that it wasn't the work of the Ra social memory complex that has resulted in these "trendy" hipsters at coffee shops on their computers wearing "ironic" t-shirts, not distortions I view with favour let me tell you lol.
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    02-12-2014, 08:54 PM (This post was last modified: 02-12-2014, 08:54 PM by Adonai One.)
    Andy Wachowski. If you watch a Wachowski film, assume some it has sublminal influence from Ra. The Matrix has a ship named The Logos for a reason along with the concept of The Choice.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wachowskis

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    #96
    02-12-2014, 11:20 PM
    ink blots

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    02-12-2014, 11:50 PM
    [Image: hale5_c003f001.gif]

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    02-13-2014, 12:28 AM (This post was last modified: 02-13-2014, 01:45 AM by isis.)
    (02-12-2014, 11:50 PM)rie Wrote: [Image: Rorschach_blot_01.jpg]

    that's an angel, with no head, in a dress. she's reaching up for where her head should be like wth where's my head
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    #99
    02-13-2014, 12:59 AM
    The phenomenon has been called "hyper-intuition", or as Ra calls it "unbridled" intuition, which naturally must always result in pareidolia.

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    02-13-2014, 10:21 AM (This post was last modified: 02-13-2014, 10:26 AM by Adonai One.)
    The first trinity of the Tarot was termed "The Matrix" by Ra in the 80s. The Matrix film was not named until far later. The Matrix film constantly explores the nature of "The Choice." And so does the concept coined by Ra as well. The many first Matrixes (or realities) in the film, like Ra's Logos', explores the nature of choice.

    Inkblots? Possibility? The choice is yours. Allow me to assure both of you, I'm not just searching through Wikipedia and pointing at the screen saying "He's Ra!"

    http://matrix.wikia.com/wiki/Choice

    At the very least, pull out a glossary of Tarot terms from The Law of One and cross-reference them with dialogue from The Matrix Trilogy. You may see what I am talking about.

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    02-13-2014, 10:30 AM
    If you like "the matrix" man you may like "ghost in the shell" which was a big inspiration for the matrix and explores the philosophical concepts and implications within the film a fair bit deeper. In fact a lot of people feel robbed once they see "ghost in the shell" because it's like the matrix, the movie they loved so much has just ripped these guys off.

    It's not like Ra invented the word "matrix" lol it makes perfect sense for that film to be named that given it's meaning.
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    02-13-2014, 10:31 AM (This post was last modified: 02-13-2014, 10:32 AM by Adonai One.)
    In my belief, The Ghost in the Shell does not remotely explore the same concepts nor the nature of choice.

    The Matrix on its surface might be a cyberpunk-action movie. My opinion differs: It's archetypal.

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    02-13-2014, 10:56 AM
    Yeah, it's not like they asked permission from the creators because they weren't effectively making a recreation of another persons work. /s

    Yes they do have incredibly similar philosophical themes, "ghost in the shell" is an adaptation of the phrase "ghost in the machine", an idea or presentation doesn't have to be filtered through Ra terminology and principles to be philosophical lol.

    You obviously really like the matrix, you've quoted it numerous times like the words ended the discussion because of their apparent weight, it's not surprising at all you think the guys that made it are wanderers of Ra.
    All good stories are archetypal
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    #104
    02-13-2014, 11:09 AM
    I believe the theme of "ghost in the machine" is not the only major plot-device in The Matrix. I understand what you're trying to convey: It's all in my imagination. I encourage skepticism.

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    #105
    02-13-2014, 11:18 AM (This post was last modified: 02-13-2014, 11:19 AM by zenmaster.)
    Dialog between Larry Wachowski and Ken Wilber about the meaning behind the Matrix films:




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    #106
    02-13-2014, 11:39 AM
    I always found the Matrix to be incredibly derivative. Read Neuromancer and watch Ghost in the Shell and Dark City and you've seen the Matrix.
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    #107
    02-13-2014, 11:46 AM
    I will be convinced of such once somebody can point to me how these series cover the concept of choice and faith in the same manner.

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    02-13-2014, 12:00 PM (This post was last modified: 02-13-2014, 12:01 PM by Spaced.)
    You should watch Dark City, I think you'll like it. There is a scene with a Choice involved but it's not as symbolically heavy-handed as the Matrix. I would like to add that the choice isn't something Ra made up, it's a constant in the creation of our logos that shows up in every narrative humanity has created (though not always portrayed as explicitly as in the Matrix, granted) Smile
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    02-13-2014, 12:04 PM (This post was last modified: 02-13-2014, 12:06 PM by Adonai One.)
    I am aware. I might be foolhardy but my intelligence is not ridden with drug-induced shamanic states. Wink

    I have never claimed these concepts were invented by Ra but that they are heavily covered in this film in a similar way.

    The Choice is covered through the film constantly in dialogues like this one which mirrors how the Logos' creates realities:
    Quote:The Architect: The first Matrix I designed was quite naturally perfect; it was a work of art, flawless, sublime. A triumph equaled only by its monumental failure. The inevitability of its doom is apparent to me now as a consequence of the imperfection inherent in every human being. Thus I redesigned it, based on your history, to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature. However, I was again frustrated by failure. I have since come to understand that the answer eluded me because it required a lesser mind, or perhaps a mind less bound by the parameters of perfection. Thus the answer was stumbled upon by another: an intuitive program, initially created to investigate certain aspects of the human psyche. If I am the father of the Matrix, she would undoubtedly be its mother.

    Neo: The Oracle.

    The Architect: Please. As I was saying, she stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly 99% of all test subjects accepted the program as long as they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of that choice at a near-unconscious level. While this answer functioned, it was obviously fundamentally flawed, thus creating the otherwise-contradictory systemic anomaly that if left unchecked might threaten the system itself. Ergo, those that refused the program, while a minority, if unchecked would constitute an escalating probability of disaster.
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    02-13-2014, 09:08 PM
    Quote:I am aware. I might be foolhardy but my intelligence is not ridden with drug-induced shamanic states. Wink
    Is this a way of deflecting the fact that I'm younger, smarter and undoubtedly cooler than you? Wink

    Quote:I understand what you're trying to convey
    What I'm trying to convey is that "The Matrix" was not made with the Ra material in mind, so while it may have certain reflections of archetypal themes expressed in the LOO you could "see" those patterns anywhere depending on how deeply you study things (archetypes by their very nature will be reflected in lots of things lol) or how intensely you are inclined towards apophenia.

    And personally, The Matrix is American trash for pseudo intellectuals to devour. I just want to see one American movie where there is not an excessive amount of destruction.

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    02-13-2014, 09:33 PM (This post was last modified: 02-13-2014, 09:35 PM by Sagittarius.)
    (02-13-2014, 09:08 PM)Fang Wrote:
    Quote:I am aware. I might be foolhardy but my intelligence is not ridden with drug-induced shamanic states. Wink
    Is this a way of deflecting the fact that I'm younger, smarter and undoubtedly cooler than you? Wink

    Quote:I understand what you're trying to convey
    What I'm trying to convey is that "The Matrix" was not made with the Ra material in mind, so while it may have certain reflections of archetypal themes expressed in the LOO you could "see" those patterns anywhere depending on how deeply you study things (archetypes by their very nature will be reflected in lots of things lol) or how intensely you are inclined towards apophenia.

    And personally, The Matrix is American trash for pseudo intellectuals to devour. I just want to see one American movie where there is not an excessive amount of destruction.

    Lucky I was only 9 years when I first saw it. Still have vivid memories of seeing that with my mum and best friends I was mesmerized. Probably watched it at least 40 times. I never watch movies more then once or twice by and the matrix trilogy and lord of of the rings trilogy are the only ones I've watched possibly 30-40 times each.

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    02-13-2014, 10:02 PM
    (02-13-2014, 12:28 AM)truesimultaneity Wrote: that's an angel, with no head, in a dress. she's reaching up for where her head should be like wth where's my head

    lol@wth where's my head

    That would be a tiny, tiny bit unusual response bc people usually see women/woman w/ head(s)- you might be a unique type of person Wink not weird enough to be fully unusual response tho. Good job!
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    02-14-2014, 05:22 AM (This post was last modified: 02-14-2014, 05:40 AM by Parsons.)
    (02-13-2014, 09:08 PM)Fang Wrote: And personally, The Matrix is American trash for pseudo intellectuals to devour. I just want to see one American movie where there is not an excessive amount of destruction.

    Take your pick.

    America Beauty
    The Shawshank Redemption
    One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
    Forest Gump
    12 Angry Men
    Memento
    The Prestige
    The Great Dictator
    Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
    The Big Lebowski
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    02-14-2014, 05:56 AM
    Lol dude don't get so defensive, no one's attacking you.

    I recognize the phrase "The Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless mind" from the poem "Eloisa to Abelard", I might actually check that out. Thanks Smile

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    02-14-2014, 02:17 PM
    (02-14-2014, 05:56 AM)Fang Wrote: Lol dude don't get so defensive, no one's attacking you.

    I recognize the phrase "The Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless mind" from the poem "Eloisa to Abelard", I might actually check that out. Thanks Smile

    i don't think he was being defensive...& i don't think he thought any1 was attacking him. i think he was just showing u that there's actually a nice balance...it's effortless to show you 1 murica movie where there's not "an excessive amount of destruction" bc there's tons of them idk how u've been missing them. groundhog day!
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    02-14-2014, 09:00 PM
    It doesn't look defensive now that the post has been edited...
    But, water under the bridge and all
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    02-14-2014, 09:40 PM
    (02-13-2014, 09:08 PM)Fang Wrote: And personally, The Matrix is American trash for pseudo intellectuals to devour. I just want to see one American movie where there is not an excessive amount of destruction.

    I feel called to suggest you try watching again the Matrix series (at the very least the first 2 movies) with a new set of eyes which does not focus solely on the violent aspects of the movie, but rather on the philosophical content and meaning behind the overall plot. It is my belief the violence depicted in the movie, although superfluous, played an important part in its success on the big screen. That being said, the heart of the movie, its deeper meaning, will only be perceived by the seeker/watching who is aware of its existence in the first place. And the same could be said of countless other movies, novels and artistic creations... or life in general. We see what we want to see, we see what we are ready to see Smile
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    02-14-2014, 10:40 PM
    I did not solely focus on the violent aspects while watching...this may surprise you but I did see the "philosophical" content, which was shallow hence the "pseudo intellectual" comment. What is deep to one is not to another. Saying "we see what we want to see" like I'm missing out on some deeper meaning as I am not "ready" to perceive it...all I can do is lol

    I understand that you're trying to help and be compassionate but c'mon, no, this movie does not hold secrets of the universe, if you want philosophical content of a deep nature read a book.
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    02-15-2014, 02:32 PM (This post was last modified: 02-15-2014, 02:59 PM by zenmaster.)


    That commentator would seem to be a proponent of trans-humanism.
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    02-16-2014, 12:04 AM (This post was last modified: 02-16-2014, 12:06 AM by Adonai One.)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahavatar_Babaji

    A Ra wanderer that activated himself so far that he got kicked off the planet around the 1970s. He had to be deceived out of his incarnation so he wouldn't totally unveil the planet through his actions.

    There are other Indian gurus fooling around in a similar manner that are from Ra. Let's just say two extreme spiritual biases formed on Venus: One on the very right-hand and a minority on the very left.

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