Which value is the most important or valuable to you?

[anagogy]

I would add beauty to the list. Not only individual beauty but the beauty that is to be found in everything that is.

Also so far I notice these 3 things:

1- it took 23 answers before love is mentioned even if it is at the core of all things

Well, everything is a distortion of love so really everyone is talking about love. In truth we can't really neatly divide all these qualities like we are pretending to do. Love is somehow connected to freedom, which is somehow connected to joy, which is somehow connected with intelligence, and so on etc. All infinite facets of the same fundamental somethingness.

2- Is any of these worth without the others? It seems like proof to me that each creator even though having a sense of desire for unity is proud to experience seperation in order to explore each values that are most important to them.

Separation allows white light to appreciate the colors of its beingness in their unfolded glory. Sort of like your hand balled into a fist, you can't really see the individual fingers, but if you open your hand, each finger is displayed in their individuality. Or like a flower unfolding its petals, and each petal is different and unique. Separation has its value, and limitations focus and empower creativity.

3- The creator has a tendancy toward the positive spectrum of values. Or maybe that is bring4th. What would you think are the values of a completely opposite forum where people would all be STS?

The creator, and ourselves, extend from unity, so naturally the predominance of values would tend to mostly reflect that base from which all existence springs.

STS would value: power, cunning, and beauty (among other things).

[Dog Star]

I'm sorry Night Owl, this makes no sense to me as well, love is distorted but once one channels it words hold no meaning

[Dog Star]

what is the reason you seek isolation from other-selves that do not speak your own distortion? I agree a hundred times that love has many many expressions, but there is a compassionate way to communicate through love and a very small amount felt this truth, further more THEY isolate themselves too because of the stated above.. why are we doing this?

[AnthroHeart]

I wonder if the sub-Logos (sun) loves more than the Buddha did.

[Minyatur]

I wonder if the sub-Logos (sun) loves more than the Buddha did.

I would think their way of loving were on totally different levels or dimensions. Unless Buddha's love created as much as our sun did, they're not much alike in intensity or even purity as creative power.

[Night Owl]

I'm sorry Night Owl, this makes no sense to me as well, love is distorted but once one channels it words hold no meaning

Do not be sorry. You are the love. You are the meaning. You are what everyone else value.

[Night Owl]

I would add beauty to the list. Not only individual beauty but the beauty that is to be found in everything that is.

Also so far I notice these 3 things:

1- it took 23 answers before love is mentioned even if it is at the core of all things

Well, everything is a distortion of love so really everyone is talking about love. In truth we can't really neatly divide all these qualities like we are pretending to do. Love is somehow connected to freedom, which is somehow connected to joy, which is somehow connected with intelligence, and so on etc. All infinite facets of the same fundamental somethingness.

2- Is any of these worth without the others? It seems like proof to me that each creator even though having a sense of desire for unity is proud to experience seperation in order to explore each values that are most important to them.

Separation allows white light to appreciate the colors of its beingness in their unfolded glory. Sort of like your hand balled into a fist, you can't really see the individual fingers, but if you open your hand, each finger is displayed in their individuality. Or like a flower unfolding its petals, and each petal is different and unique. Separation has its value, and limitations focus and empower creativity.

3- The creator has a tendancy toward the positive spectrum of values. Or maybe that is bring4th. What would you think are the values of a completely opposite forum where people would all be STS?

The creator, and ourselves, extend from unity, so naturally the predominance of values would tend to mostly reflect that base from which all existence springs.

STS would value: power, cunning, and beauty (among other things).

I agree they all are love. Is it possible they in fact each contain each other? In the case of joy you mentioned that without it infinity would be pointless. What if even when it appears otherwise there is still joy in every moment but instead of being constant it's only being spread differently across time by different people meaning some people prefer that joy be their constant while others saccrifice a bit of joy at times in order to reach love differently but then joy gets condensed into smaller peaks of intense joy.

edit: What made me think about this is music. I often find contrasts to be the most effective at generating emotions. I can enjoy a song with sections without any joy if at some point tension find it's resolution point which makes that joy reach a peak which cannot be reached without it.

[Night Owl]

1- it took 23 answers before love is mentioned even if it is at the core of all things

Yay, all this love talk all the time is so saccharine.

graduates fourth density negative

I didn't mean to imply there's a problem with that, just that we all seem pretty determined to explore love where it is less obvious.

[Minyatur]

1- it took 23 answers before love is mentioned even if it is at the core of all things

Yay, all this love talk all the time is so saccharine.

graduates fourth density negative

I didn't mean to imply there's a problem with that, just that we all seem pretty determined to explore love where it is less obvious.

Too late, he said he already graduated fourth density negative. *moment of silence*

[Night Owl]

I would add beauty to the list. Not only individual beauty but the beauty that is to be found in everything that is.

Also so far I notice these 3 things:

1- it took 23 answers before love is mentioned even if it is at the core of all things

2- Is any of these worth without the others? It seems like proof to me that each creator even though having a sense of desire for unity is proud to experience seperation in order to explore each values that are most important to them.

3- The creator has a tendancy toward the positive spectrum of values. Or maybe that is bring4th. What would you think are the values of a completely opposite forum where people would all be STS?

Pst I picked intimacy because people's very private thoughts, emotions, feelings, and even fears make me love that person I won't say more but in a more focused way.
The times when people show you who they are, even when showing their rougher side, I cherish it because though that I get to know those I love even more.

Intimacy focuses love.

What do you consider as ''knowing someone''? I often end up not even believing that it is possible when a lifetime is not enough to know oneself. Maybe inifnity is not even enough for the one to know itself.

[Night Owl]

what is the reason you seek isolation from other-selves that do not speak your own distortion? I agree a hundred times that love has many many expressions, but there is a compassionate way to communicate through love and a very small amount felt this truth, further more THEY isolate themselves too because of the stated above.. why are we doing this?

The question you raised here is particularly fitting with this topic. In my case I realised since peace is one of my main focus, I sometimes seek isolation from others when I realise that peace cannot happen in some environnement. In the case of peace the thing is there is no peace to be found unless everyone in the room is peaceful. Sometimes people are not at peace and do not even want to be. If those same people are full of negative energy and reject attempts at peace I will end up seeking isolation to keep my inner peace. Without this defense mechanism I would end up completely distorted into others distortion and would never find peace myself. I suppose this can be applied to other values such as gratitude, joy, awe, love.

[Night Owl]

Also thank you creator for sharing what you have at heart. I think all those values can be found here in this thread and also here on B4. Every creator can get know itself a little more here I think.

[Glow]

I would add beauty to the list. Not only individual beauty but the beauty that is to be found in everything that is.

Also so far I notice these 3 things:

1- it took 23 answers before love is mentioned even if it is at the core of all things

2- Is any of these worth without the others? It seems like proof to me that each creator even though having a sense of desire for unity is proud to experience seperation in order to explore each values that are most important to them.

3- The creator has a tendancy toward the positive spectrum of values. Or maybe that is bring4th. What would you think are the values of a completely opposite forum where people would all be STS?

Pst I picked intimacy because people's very private thoughts, emotions, feelings, and even fears make me love that person I won't say more but in a more focused way.
The times when people show you who they are, even when showing their rougher side, I cherish it because though that I get to know those I love even more.

Intimacy focuses love.

What do you consider as ''knowing someone''? I often end up not even believing that it is possible when a lifetime is not enough to know oneself. Maybe inifnity is not even enough for the one to know itself.

Every little breadcrum is a gift.