Got my revenge against the police!!!

[GreatSpirit]

Hahahaha...this was awesome!!

So its around 2:30 am...i'm walking back from Walgreens and as I leave, I saw a local police dept cruiser right outside the store. Nothing out of the ordinary.

I live right by the store so I'm like half way to my driveway and this cop pulls up as I'm walking and he asked me for my name. You know what I said??? "am I free to go or am I being detained???" 


Obviously this cop was NOT expecting that response and wearing a snow hat in 15-20 degree weather, I must look total suspect for some reason. I mean winters in northeast PA are kind of cold so snow hats aren't out of the ordinary....as far as I know.

Anyhoo, he tries to prolong it by saying "I'm looking for someone I just want your name"...again I respond "am I free to go or am I being detained??" Right after that I'm getting fed up with him and just said "I live right there and my name is Cole...amI free to go or am I being detained???

He says "you're free to go but I just want to talk"..as soon as he said "you're free to go" I just said "see ya later!!!"


Hahaha...so I just walk through my driveway and go to my house, turn on the back porch light and I'm just staring at him while heating up chicken tenders. I called my roommate to come over and we're both staring at him through the door window and I start waving at him. I'm pretty buzzed at this point from smoking and drinking too!!! 

It's just funny how I made this cop look like a total idiot. He probably never dealt with this and I hope I imparted some wisdom to the young officer. But I was ready for him too!!! I got my revenge because they stopped me in 2014 just walking. Now it was my turn to have fun with the cop.

Just making them feel like an idiot and exerting my rights was enough for me

But in short, I basically told the cop to shut the fk up and to go fk himself for pestering me and to go make me a sandwich.

LIKE A BOSS!!!!!

[Stranger]

Q'uo September 17, 2016
You ask this day if the universe in which you live and move and have your being is indeed rigged in your favor, of beneficence to you, and if the catalyst is also that which is helpful in your growth. We can say quite confidently that this is indeed so, for in a universe of unity in which each portion of each part of the creation is a part of the One Creator, there is indeed nothing but support, love, encouragement and the giving of assistance from one portion to another, for in the creation of the father, each portion serves each other portion. This is the nature of unity.
[...]
There will be catalyst provided by others which is not of this encouraging nature. Some of this catalyst will be incidental. You do well to ask repeatedly “Where is the love in this situation—how might I respond in as positive a way as I can sustain?”

[rva_jeremy]

Just want to chime in that cops represent a great deal of catalyst for me as well. Seeing a cop harassing me as a sympathetic character kicked off a huge awakening in my life, for what it's worth.

[Glow]

I have a pretty odd fear of cops, all government agencies kinda stress me out. At the time I can see they are just people but I guess I don’t like anyone having authority over me.

I just personally don’t see how antagonizing or wanting to increase conflict would help anything. He knows where you live now so likely has your name, and now there is animosity between you.

I wasn’t there so I can’t have felt the vibe, but I’m not sure why asking your name was a huge issue. Do you have history with cops other than these two incidence?

[Infinite Unity]

Hahahaha...this was awesome!!

So its around 2:30 am...i'm walking back from Walgreens and as I leave, I saw a local police dept cruiser right outside the store. Nothing out of the ordinary.

I live right by the store so I'm like half way to my driveway and this cop pulls up as I'm walking and he asked me for my name. You know what I said??? "am I free to go or am I being detained???" 


Obviously this cop was NOT expecting that response and wearing a snow hat in 15-20 degree weather, I must look total suspect for some reason. I mean winters in northeast PA are kind of cold so snow hats aren't out of the ordinary....as far as I know.

Anyhoo, he tries to prolong it by saying "I'm looking for someone I just want your name"...again I respond "am I free to go or am I being detained??" Right after that I'm getting fed up with him and just said "I live right there and my name is Cole...amI free to go or am I being detained???

He says "you're free to go but I just want to talk"..as soon as he said "you're free to go" I just said "see ya later!!!"


Hahaha...so I just walk through my driveway and go to my house, turn on the back porch light and I'm just staring at him while heating up chicken tenders. I called my roommate to come over and we're both staring at him through the door window and I start waving at him. I'm pretty buzzed at this point from smoking and drinking too!!! 

It's just funny how I made this cop look like a total idiot. He probably never dealt with this and I hope I imparted some wisdom to the young officer. But I was ready for him too!!! I got my revenge because they stopped me in 2014 just walking. Now it was my turn to have fun with the cop.

Just making them feel like an idiot and exerting my rights was enough for me

But in short, I basically told the cop to shut the fk up and to go fk himself for pestering me and to go make me a sandwich.

LIKE A BOSS!!!!!

I don't support non-cooperation. As the cop could of had a legitimate reason in his own mind for stopping, and asking you those questions. However I will congratulate you, on your willingness to stand up for your self/rights. Many people just succumb to authority, which is not an advisable configuration, as the 'authorities' go unchecked and un-mirrored.

3 days before Christmas I had an ordinance cop give me a 1083 dollar ticket. For my dog roaming unchecked. The dog caused no problems, bit no one, and tore up nothing. Usually in the past I would succumb to social authority without question, that has always been my configuration towards societie's authority. However in this situation, I found myself not only willing, but wanting to stand up to the cop, because I felt the fine, and his behavior were uncalled for. Needless to say I have a court date, and plan on standing up to the fullest ability, for what I believe to be right. I think paying a fine is acceptable, but one that more fits the situation.

I would also agree with glow, in that, the cop probably does have you marked now. Be careful brother.

[Glow]

Hahahaha...this was awesome!!

So its around 2:30 am...i'm walking back from Walgreens and as I leave, I saw a local police dept cruiser right outside the store. Nothing out of the ordinary.

I live right by the store so I'm like half way to my driveway and this cop pulls up as I'm walking and he asked me for my name. You know what I said??? "am I free to go or am I being detained???" 


Obviously this cop was NOT expecting that response and wearing a snow hat in 15-20 degree weather, I must look total suspect for some reason. I mean winters in northeast PA are kind of cold so snow hats aren't out of the ordinary....as far as I know.

Anyhoo, he tries to prolong it by saying "I'm looking for someone I just want your name"...again I respond "am I free to go or am I being detained??" Right after that I'm getting fed up with him and just said "I live right there and my name is Cole...amI free to go or am I being detained???

He says "you're free to go but I just want to talk"..as soon as he said "you're free to go" I just said "see ya later!!!"


Hahaha...so I just walk through my driveway and go to my house, turn on the back porch light and I'm just staring at him while heating up chicken tenders. I called my roommate to come over and we're both staring at him through the door window and I start waving at him. I'm pretty buzzed at this point from smoking and drinking too!!! 

It's just funny how I made this cop look like a total idiot. He probably never dealt with this and I hope I imparted some wisdom to the young officer. But I was ready for him too!!! I got my revenge because they stopped me in 2014 just walking. Now it was my turn to have fun with the cop.

Just making them feel like an idiot and exerting my rights was enough for me

But in short, I basically told the cop to shut the fk up and to go fk himself for pestering me and to go make me a sandwich.

LIKE A BOSS!!!!!

I don't support non-cooperation. As the cop could of had a legitimate reason in his own mind for stopping, and asking you those questions. However I will congratulate you, on your willingness to stand up for your self/rights. Many people just succumb to authority, which is not an advisable configuration, as the 'authorities' go unchecked and un-mirrored.

The legitimate reason thing was my first thought too like “oh good, you are bob Smith? Your daughter was in an accident and she said you went for a walk down this way” but maybe that is my filter. I don’t know.

[Infinite Unity]

Hahahaha...this was awesome!!

So its around 2:30 am...i'm walking back from Walgreens and as I leave, I saw a local police dept cruiser right outside the store. Nothing out of the ordinary.

I live right by the store so I'm like half way to my driveway and this cop pulls up as I'm walking and he asked me for my name. You know what I said??? "am I free to go or am I being detained???" 


Obviously this cop was NOT expecting that response and wearing a snow hat in 15-20 degree weather, I must look total suspect for some reason. I mean winters in northeast PA are kind of cold so snow hats aren't out of the ordinary....as far as I know.

Anyhoo, he tries to prolong it by saying "I'm looking for someone I just want your name"...again I respond "am I free to go or am I being detained??" Right after that I'm getting fed up with him and just said "I live right there and my name is Cole...amI free to go or am I being detained???

He says "you're free to go but I just want to talk"..as soon as he said "you're free to go" I just said "see ya later!!!"


Hahaha...so I just walk through my driveway and go to my house, turn on the back porch light and I'm just staring at him while heating up chicken tenders. I called my roommate to come over and we're both staring at him through the door window and I start waving at him. I'm pretty buzzed at this point from smoking and drinking too!!! 

It's just funny how I made this cop look like a total idiot. He probably never dealt with this and I hope I imparted some wisdom to the young officer. But I was ready for him too!!! I got my revenge because they stopped me in 2014 just walking. Now it was my turn to have fun with the cop.

Just making them feel like an idiot and exerting my rights was enough for me

But in short, I basically told the cop to shut the fk up and to go fk himself for pestering me and to go make me a sandwich.

LIKE A BOSS!!!!!

I don't support non-cooperation. As the cop could of had a legitimate reason in his own mind for stopping, and asking you those questions. However I will congratulate you, on your willingness to stand up for your self/rights. Many people just succumb to authority, which is not an advisable configuration, as the 'authorities' go unchecked and un-mirrored.

The legitimate reason thing was my first thought too like “oh good, you are bob Smith? Your daughter was in an accident and she said you went for a walk down this way” but maybe that is my filter. I don’t know.

I honestly got the feeling that the cop, was gonna finish it up with a "It's late, and there are dangerous people about, be careful' type of talk. I really don't think he was checking into you, and the asking for a name was a way to begin conversation. Yes, that's akward to you, but that's pretty much how he probably starts every conversation at his job, as a policeman.

I honestly think his subconscious was drawn to you Eddie, and he was honestly just trying to protect you brother.

I think the next time you see this specific cop, you should thank him for his service and apologize for being so rude. We need those good boys in blue, to do just that, remain true.

[rva_jeremy]

I wasn’t there so I can’t have felt the vibe, but I’m not sure why asking your name was a huge issue.

I adhere to the advice given by a lawyer in this video.

[GreatSpirit]

I wasn’t there so I can’t have felt the vibe, but I’m not sure why asking your name was a huge issue.

I adhere to the advice given by a lawyer in this video.

Never talk to the police....especially if you're charged with something. The more you say, the more trouble you'll be in. Also never provide ID to a cop. If you're driving, it's a different story.



I'm sure he ran my plates since my car was there. Cops do this sort of thing all the time all across the country. Let him run my plates all he wants. 


This is why people have little respect for authority. Cops get shot over things like this unfortunately...but a violent job attracts violent entities.


It's the blatant abuse of power and making citizens feel like we're in North Korea that pisses me off and I for one will not tolerate such behaviour anymore from police departments. 


I'm the one who triumphed that night. I played my cards right.

[Glow]

I admit to trying to stay off their radar because I do think in some cases the position attracts those who want power.
I know there are good ones too but law in general bothers me as there isn't enough grey area built in for me to feel terribly trusting of any system. Either way you were within your rights and it as an interaction made you feel good.

Its a very strange world sometimes.

I'm trying to think how I would have acted, maybe kept looking forward pretending I didn't hear, ear buds might be useful in these cases... or simply said a first name and politely asked is everything ok?

Right before Christmas I had left something at home on my way to work and my husband was traveling the same route so grabbed it and was going to meet me to hand it off. He was speeding going with the traffic flow but still speeding.

Me I go into stress mode when cops are around but he handled it in a way that mesmerized me.
He pulled into the parking lot as he was caught 10 feet away, stepped out and with a smile said to the cop

"Im just dropping this off for my wife who is late for work, do you mind if I just hand it to her so she isnt late?"
He left his car and the cop, walked 30 feet gave me a kiss and told me what happened then went back to the car.
I still went into cop/stress mode and felt "guilt" somehow for having attracted their attention even though it wasnt even me, but I caused it as his intention was to get to me, even though I didnt hurry him or anything.

Anyways as my husband is digging through a folder I ask if everything is ok. He mentions he cant find proof of insurance.
I grab 2 of mine to show the cop, so nervous I didnt even notice they were expired. lol He sent me to look for updated ones
I think we both caught this guy off guard by our bizarre approach to him that were polar opposite, he was disarmed.

I went back to my truck and found a not expired one with his name on it so that issue sorted. I still didnt like driving away leaving him with the cop even though I could tell the cop was ok and my husband was fine.

Its just strange how we project one stereotype or reaction on to all of a group. I guess it's like racism but by profession, yet I know there is more to that because their job is in a way to control. Sorry for rambling, just sharing my experience.

[Ra1111]

I have been in public safety for most of my life so far, and even I think some cops are jerks , we are all human. But I do not subscribe to the idea that police need revenge taken on them. Although I love the part about staring him down while cooking tenders, that’s exactly what I would have done lol

[Minyatur]

In knowledge of your awareness of the Law of One and as this person's other-self, I'm a bit at a loss by all this.

To make sure I understand, you had problems with other people before and took it out on a different person of the same profession who'm, from your post, showed no ill intent or disrespect to you?

Seems to me like more than revenge you span the wheel of karma. Don't you think you maybe made a good officer now disappointed with people which will taint all further interactions with other people?

If you don't want bad interactions with officers, you should let go of that intensive magnetic focus on them.

[Coordinate_Apotheosis]

This is one of those gray areas.  That officer might have just been trying to see if you were someone else, but it is strange how he went about it, maybe he was uncomfortable too.

I feel bad for him, I would've been honest if I were in your position, and would've asked the guy if there's something going on in the area (on for criminal that got away or something). I used to talk to officers at my gas station job.

Some of them shouldn't be officers, others should be in prison, but some are just trying to make a living and are trying to help others in an increasingly thankless job as all police are lumped together as blue gangster thugs when a lot of them just want to protect.

A few rotten barrels of apples certainly can make all the apples seem to taste bad.

[Minyatur]

This is one of those gray areas.  That officer might have just been trying to see if you were someone else, but it is strange how he went about it, maybe he was uncomfortable too.

I feel bad for him, I would've been honest if I were in your position, and would've asked the guy if there's something going on in the area (on for criminal that got away or something). I used to talk to officers at my gas station job.

Some of them shouldn't be officers, others should be in prison, but some are just trying to make a living and are trying to help others in an increasingly thankless job as all police are lumped together as blue gangster thugs when a lot of them just want to protect.

A few rotten barrels of apples certainly can make all the apples seem to taste bad.

And what do we know of the story behind those rotten apples to make us think they deserve no love or compassion?

[Coordinate_Apotheosis]

Mainly they're a force of mass discontent and ire with the 'Law', they're pushing people to avoid law enforcement like they're violent gang members.

Doesn't help anyone find compassion when they're extorted for all the money they have because there's no where to park by their job so they park on a street curb and get a $50 dollar ticket each day making their work day mostly worthless and ruining their life all because of an arbitrary law that says a sign being ignored can cost you money.

Or like that couple who made a $30k tree house and now are being told to take it down or they'll accrue $50 punishment every day.  The city has those people in debt all because it didn't properly accurately inform the couple WHEN THEY ASKED if they needed a permit or not.  Because of the city's negligence and ineptitude, a couple who built a dream tree house is now suffering and in debt and STILL are told to remove their own hand made dream place.

Sometimes the rotten apples are rotten for a reason, they ruin lives and then don't even take responsibility when they're the cause of all the trouble.

The Law is very much filled with rotten intentions.  Otherwise parking in an open space overnight wouldn't get your car towed and held ransom by the city.  You don't need to love something that is so destructive to other's lives.  People are right to be mad at how Bank's have transformed Laws to transform our society and world.

[ScottK]

I live right by the store so I'm like half way to my driveway and this cop pulls up as I'm walking and he asked me for my name. You know what I said??? "am I free to go or am I being detained???" 


Obviously this cop was NOT expecting that response and wearing a snow hat in 15-20 degree weather, I must look total suspect for some reason. I mean winters in northeast PA are kind of cold so snow hats aren't out of the ordinary....as far as I know.

Anyhoo, he tries to prolong it by saying "I'm looking for someone I just want your name"...again I respond "am I free to go or am I being detained??" Right after that I'm getting fed up with him and just said "I live right there and my name is Cole...amI free to go or am I being detained???

He says "you're free to go but I just want to talk"..as soon as he said "you're free to go" I just said "see ya later!!!"


Hahaha...so I just walk through my driveway and go to my house, turn on the back porch light and I'm just staring at him while heating up chicken tenders. I called my roommate to come over and we're both staring at him through the door window and I start waving at him. I'm pretty buzzed at this point from smoking and drinking too!!! 

Good stuff! I think they burned out the DUI revenue source, so now they have to find new revenue sources. Police are like predators on the road at 2:00am anymore.

If you are awake at 2:30 am, that's probable cause that you committed a crime? Right? He was probably going after public drunkenness, or something.

Revenge is the wrong word. I think it's more that you rejected the denial of freewill offer from the entity who was acting in a service to self manner. I would lay low for a while though, and avoid doing anything that could even remotely be construed as against the law. This guy may want to seek revenge on you, for you simply asserting your rights. Not consenting is powerful, but to these guys on their power-trips, it's defiance - they are "the law" afterall.

You're being taught to be sovereign, but remember for the time being, in this system, you still are a slave..

[GreatSpirit]

In knowledge of your awareness of the Law of One and as this person's other-self, I'm a bit at a loss by all this.

To make sure I understand, you had problems with other people before and took it out on a different person of the same profession who'm, from your post, showed no ill intent or disrespect to you?

Seems to me like more than revenge you span the wheel of karma. Don't you think you maybe made a good officer now disappointed with people which will taint all further interactions with other people?

If you don't want bad interactions with officers, you should let go of that intensive magnetic focus on them.

Hi Elros. 

Firstly, it was called "revenge" more as a joke because these guys stopped me in the middle of my walk in 2014 and frisked me and demanded my information. Now, I had the last laugh by humiliating that officer and hopefully schooled him in citizen "rights".

Secondly...whenever a cop stops and asks ANYONE their name and that they just want to talk (CLASSIC COP LINE!!!) ...... only an idiot would believe that is true. That cop was looking for someone to charge...anyone he could catch. I just happened to be it. And you have the balls to tell me that this cop showed no ill will towards me??

Thirdly, any public servant who knowingly and willfully engages in deceptive behavior such as what occurred to me last night IMO....needs to be fired from the department and charged. Public Service is a very noble profession and we just simply cannot afford to have cops who engage in this behavior in our Republic. 

But Elros...the underlying message and a lesson I wish to impart on you is this: Service to Others does NOT mean you get to be walked all over. Self respect is not evil or bad. Too much pacifism and this bending over nonsense is just as bad as tyranny itself.

Just imagine what COULD HAVE happened to me if I talked to that cop and gave him my info..."well you're under arrest...." for God knows whatever! But, I chose to exercise my power and I won.

I wasn't letting him have his way with me. I'm very proud of what I did. I've read and absorbed your points...now read and absorb mine.

[Minyatur]

Hi Elros. 

Firstly, it was called "revenge" more as a joke because these guys stopped me in the middle of my walk in 2014 and frisked me and demanded my information. Now, I had the last laugh by humiliating that officer and hopefully schooled him in citizen "rights".

Secondly...whenever a cop stops and asks ANYONE their name and that they just want to talk (CLASSIC COP LINE!!!) ...... only an idiot would believe that is true. That cop was looking for someone to charge...anyone he could catch. I just happened to be it. And you have the balls to tell me that this cop showed no ill will towards me??

Thirdly, any public servant who knowingly and willfully engages in deceptive behavior such as what occurred to me last night IMO....needs to be fired from the department and charged. Public Service is a very noble profession and we just simply cannot afford to have cops who engage in this behavior in our Republic. 

But Elros...the underlying message and a lesson I wish to impart on you is this: Service to Others does NOT mean you get to be walked all over. Self respect is not evil or bad. Too much pacifism and this bending over nonsense is just as bad as tyranny itself.

Just imagine what COULD HAVE happened to me if I talked to that cop and gave him my info..."well you're under arrest...." for God knows whatever! But, I chose to exercise my power and I won.

I wasn't letting him have his way with me. I'm very proud of what I did. I've read and absorbed your points...now read and absorb mine.

I have to admit I don't see how having your name offers more ability to arrest you, like you said they probably checked your plates and should have learned it and yet you seem not in jail.

We live in different places, so clearly I don't know what sort of events happen where you live. I talked to cops at night without getting any problems from scenarios pretty much alike your own, sometimes I'd get told it's off hours for a park or an outdoor rink during winter. I think it happened once walking with a friend that we got asked where we were going and they were like alright and that was that. One time I could have got a criminal record and the cop let me off nicely. Also had a time my friend could have got a ticket for something about 2 hours after yelling to the cop car to f*** off from passing in front of the bar and they let him off just saying to not be a smartass next time. I think, like with any profession, cops are just people and so you can be unlucky and get one full of hatred and issues that'll take it out in you, just as one that'll save your ass or even just be serviable to you.

STO knows that hate begets hate and chooses not to entertain it. Doesn't mean to let yourself be stepped upon either.

[rva_jeremy]

Man, this thread pushes all of my buttons. I find myself of two very different minds.

On the one hand, I know deep within that oppressive, domineering authority is an issue I've had to work on all my life, whether with parents, bullies, bosses, cops, etc. It's not what the authority is doing so much as the deep dread their power instills in me for some reason, this reaction I have to this particular danger separate from all the other deadly dangers I encounter every day. So I know that the thing I need to work on is me. I need a more balanced approach to these aspects of the Creator.

On the other hand, it must be said that law enforcement are not just normal, regular people like others. Not only do they enjoy wide discretion in how they interact with you--to the point that they can pretty much get away with any amount of violence they choose to introduce to a situation--but they have an institutional mindset that sees threats everywhere. They are literally trained to think as warriors, as elite, and this mindset of thinking of the people they are supposed to protect as "sheep" colors the way they interact with us.

That combination of mindset and proclivity to action is not unique to cops, but since they wear uniforms that announce their status, it's easily detected. I agree that I've known lots of decent, good people in law enforcement. But since next to none of them actually stand up to the bad apples in their organizations, it doesn't really matter. They will go to the mat for their brothers in blue 999 out of 1000 times, so the fact that there are good ones makes little difference in how I approach cops.

I think it is how one behaves towards cops that's the biggest challenge for those polarizing positively. How much can you open up to somebody who can punish you, who can use your words against you, who lies in order to entrap you? It's a huge test. What I'm wondering is whether there's a way to assert your rights while being loving and respectful, since it seems like cops have a cultural need to escalate situations whenever they don't get exactly what they want.

[Diana]

Man, this thread pushes all of my buttons.  I find myself of two very different minds.

On the one hand, I know deep within that oppressive, domineering authority is an issue I've had to work on all my life, whether with parents, bullies, bosses, cops, etc.  It's not what the authority is doing so much as the deep dread their power instills in me for some reason, this reaction I have to this particular danger separate from all the other deadly dangers I encounter every day.  So I know that the thing I need to work on is me.  I need a more balanced approach to these aspects of the Creator.

I know a lot of members dismiss the Castaneda books, but I have found them to be extraordinarily interesting and helpful.

There is a concept in The Power of Silence (and other of his books) called "petty tyrants." The shamans of ancient Mexico developed a way to shift their reality into expanding beyond the norm (I'm so paraphrasing since to explain properly would be very lengthy). That is, to utilize a "petty tyrant"—one who is in a position of authority and at the least pushes buttons and at the worst is deadly. According to the story, they used petty tyrants during the Spanish invasion to their great benefit, since it was a worst-case scenario in that the petty tyrants were deadly. 

The idea is to maintain balance and composure, through knowledge of a goal or purpose, during interactions with petty tyrants and not react (no matter how justified). This is accomplished by knowing what one is aiming for; in their case it was an expanded perception of reality. What this behavior apparently did for them was knock their point of perception off of its habitual location and move it elsewhere—anywhere—which enables this expanded view of existence. By acting in ways counter to a "natural" response, and also acting with purpose rather than with reaction, the "warrior" takes the reigns rather than succumbing as a victim to a petty tyrant.

This is not to say it has anything to do with revenge or justice. It only has to do with directing one's journey effectively and consciously.

That said, I want to add that I also struggle with the human system of authority (though I do endeavor to utilize the petty tyrant concept). Many cops (I refer to the US) are in their twenties and don't even have fully developed frontal lobes—and they carry guns. This is idiocy to me. And also, though this may seem like a judgment, it is actually an observation—that some people are drawn to jobs that wield power over others. So this is a recipe for chaos and imbalance right from the start, and we haven't even added in the corruption of the judicial system and the government in general, or the general unconscious state of humanity.

[isis]

wow. today is National Law Enforcement Appreciation Day. nice sync