Bring4th Forums
  • Login Register
    Login
    Username:
    Password:
  • Archive Home
  • Members
  • Team
  • Help
  • More
    • About Us
    • Library
    • L/L Research Store
User Links
  • Login Register
    Login
    Username:
    Password:

    Menu Home Today At a Glance Members CSC & Team Help
    Also visit... About Us Library Blog L/L Research Store Adept Biorhythms

    As of Friday, August 5th, 2022, the Bring4th forums on this page have been converted to a permanent read-only archive. If you would like to continue your journey with Bring4th, the new forums are now at https://discourse.bring4th.org.

    You are invited to enjoy many years worth of forum messages brought forth by our community of seekers. The site search feature remains available to discover topics of interest. (July 22, 2022) x

    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters Are we floating in consciousness?

    Thread: Are we floating in consciousness?


    AnthroHeart (Offline)

    Anthro at Heart
    Posts: 19,119
    Threads: 1,298
    Joined: Jan 2010
    #1
    01-27-2019, 08:17 PM
    There is pure awareness.
    Then there is consciousness.
    Are we floating within consciousness?
    Is our experience our own consciousness within a greater consciousness?

      •
    anagogy Away

    ἀναγωγή
    Posts: 2,775
    Threads: 42
    Joined: Jun 2009
    #2
    01-27-2019, 08:49 PM
    (01-27-2019, 08:17 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: There is pure awareness.
    Then there is consciousness.
    Are we floating within consciousness?
    Is our experience our own consciousness within a greater consciousness?

    Yes. There is infinite consciousness. All energy is conscious, vibrating at different frequencies.

    In pure awareness, there is no vibration, or you could think of it as infinite vibration. It is awareness of awareness. The sense of being. The sense of existing and being infinity itself.

    As it makes the free will choice to 'identify' with something, vibrations then become discernible as they are a perturbation or oscillation of the medium of infinite intelligent unity (a distortion of pure awareness in other-words).

    The more defined it becomes, the lower the vibration until the wave of infinite possibility collapses to a specific probability. The formless then becomes a form -- something specific, definable, and quantifiable.
    [+] The following 2 members thanked thanked anagogy for this post:2 members thanked anagogy for this post
      • AnthroHeart, RitaJC
    AnthroHeart (Offline)

    Anthro at Heart
    Posts: 19,119
    Threads: 1,298
    Joined: Jan 2010
    #3
    01-27-2019, 08:56 PM
    I wonder if the consciousness energy can get infinitely dense, even more than form and matter.

      •
    anagogy Away

    ἀναγωγή
    Posts: 2,775
    Threads: 42
    Joined: Jun 2009
    #4
    01-27-2019, 09:38 PM
    (01-27-2019, 08:56 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: I wonder if the consciousness energy can get infinitely dense, even more than form and matter.

    I would say no because all physical matter is is the furthest extent to which consciousness can pretend to be separate. The creator can pretend to be a particle (or trillions of them) but at the end of the day, it is just playing pretend. And eventually those particles join together with other particles, and identify together, increasing their vibration, eventually resulting in something that is second density, and so on through the densities. But at the subatomic level particles don't look like how most people are taught in science class. They are probability clouds, with no specific structures until they are measured (observed by an outside observer/but of course, materialists will try to take consciousness out of the picture even though it is completely unfalsifiable/untestable since you have to observe the results of the measurement to see them). It can get pretty dense though. I guess a black hole would be technically denser than regular matter. That is why the space-time warps into such a thing. It gets so dense, that the matter can no longer balance or resist the pull created by the curvature of space time. So you can think of regular matter as being in a never-ending tug of war with space time curvature (which we perceive as gravity). A black hole is when the matter loses the tug of war because it got too dense, making the gravity well "steeper" or "stronger" so to speak, and fell into the gravity well, if that makes sense. The balance is lost. So there is a threshold of denseness of matter where the (pretend) separation of particles would end by virtue of the intensity of the gravity well.
    [+] The following 1 member thanked thanked anagogy for this post:1 member thanked anagogy for this post
      • RitaJC
    Infinite Unity (Offline)

    Life Through Death
    Posts: 1,422
    Threads: 15
    Joined: Apr 2015
    #5
    01-27-2019, 10:04 PM
    Would you describe, elucidate, or expand more on gravity itself? I'm very interested in what you have to say anagogy. If so thank you.
    [+] The following 1 member thanked thanked Infinite Unity for this post:1 member thanked Infinite Unity for this post
      • anagogy
    anagogy Away

    ἀναγωγή
    Posts: 2,775
    Threads: 42
    Joined: Jun 2009
    #6
    01-27-2019, 10:39 PM (This post was last modified: 01-27-2019, 10:51 PM by anagogy.)
    Gravity is essentially the curvature of space time.

    Imagine a bowling ball on a bed. It warps the bed, where the bowling ball sinks down into the bed. If you were to roll a marble past the bowling ball on the bed, it might circle around the depression, and then get pulled into the same location of the bowling ball. This is analogous to how matter warps space time, albeit step it up a couple dimensions.

    [Image: Bowling%20ball%20Golf%20ball%2003%20copy.jpg]

    There are also metaphysical/archetypal reasons why matter "attracts" and light "radiates". Matter is the south pole of the cosmic magnetic kundalini substrate. It is the portion of the creator which "absorbs". The other side of the pole "radiates".

    When Ra spoke of "gravitic light effects" as the means whereby higher density aliens travel about the cosmos, they were spot on. Technically nothing can travel faster than the speed of light (in the physical world), but the way the ET craft operate is by manipulating, or generating, intense gravity fields. They create and amplify a gravity wave and the intensity of the gravity wave contracts the distance or space between two distant points. Thus, they bypass the speed of light barrier by not having to travel as far. Almost like a worm hole, but they don't tear a hole in the fabric of space time, they just stretch it and then let it snap back. Traveling in a space time distortion such as this also cancels out normal inertia. This is why ET craft can turn at right angles going thousands of miles per hour. That isn't the only way they travel, but that is how most of the 4th density ones do it. The major superpowers of the world governments have also acquired this technology, as Ra noted as well, way back in the 80s (well, that's when Ra told us, but they have had the technology even longer than that). However, they weren't as good as the ET craft that ET's gave them, or the ones that crashed and were recovered, because we don't have access to the same exotic elements they do.

    But the only reason they had any inkling of how to understand how these things propagated across the universe was because they had acquired Nikola Tesla's documents when he died (which Ra also said, though Ra didn't seem to want to talk about crash retrievals probably for fear of the danger it would put the group in). Later, they worked with the ET's directly to acquire more of their novel higher density understandings of physics.
    [+] The following 2 members thanked thanked anagogy for this post:2 members thanked anagogy for this post
      • Infinite Unity, RitaJC
    Infinite Unity (Offline)

    Life Through Death
    Posts: 1,422
    Threads: 15
    Joined: Apr 2015
    #7
    01-27-2019, 11:10 PM
    (01-27-2019, 10:39 PM)anagogy Wrote: Gravity is essentially the curvature of space time.

    Imagine a bowling ball on a bed. It warps the bed, where the bowling ball sinks down into the bed. If you were to roll a marble past the bowling ball on the bed, it might circle around the depression, and then get pulled into the same location of the bowling ball. This is analogous to how matter warps space time, albeit step it up a couple dimensions.

    [Image: Bowling%20ball%20Golf%20ball%2003%20copy.jpg]

    There are also metaphysical/archetypal reasons why matter "attracts" and light "radiates". Matter is the south pole of the cosmic magnetic kundalini substrate. It is the portion of the creator which "absorbs". The other side of the pole "radiates".

    When Ra spoke of "gravitic light effects" as the means whereby higher density aliens travel about the cosmos, they were spot on. Technically nothing can travel faster than the speed of light (in the physical world), but the way the ET craft operate is by manipulating, or generating, intense gravity fields. They create and amplify a gravity wave and the intensity of the gravity wave contracts the distance or space between two distant points. Thus, they bypass the speed of light barrier by not having to travel as far. Almost like a worm hole, but they don't tear a hole in the fabric of space time, they just stretch it and then let it snap back. Traveling in a space time distortion such as this also cancels out normal inertia. This is why ET craft can turn at right angles going thousands of miles per hour. That isn't the only way they travel, but that is how most of the 4th density ones do it. The major superpowers of the world governments have also acquired this technology, as Ra noted as well, way back in the 80s (well, that's when Ra told us, but they have had the technology even longer than that). However, they weren't as good as the ET craft that ET's gave them, or the ones that crashed and were recovered, because we don't have access to the same exotic elements they do.

    But the only reason they had any inkling of how to understand how these things propagated across the universe was because they had acquired Nikola Tesla's documents when he died (which Ra also said, though Ra didn't seem to want to talk about crash retrievals probably for fear of the danger it would put the group in). Later, they worked with the ET's directly to acquire more of their novel higher density understandings of physics.

    Would you think the bending in space time, induced by mass. Is equal or generated energy in time/space?

      •
    anagogy Away

    ἀναγωγή
    Posts: 2,775
    Threads: 42
    Joined: Jun 2009
    #8
    01-27-2019, 11:28 PM
    (01-27-2019, 11:10 PM)Infinite Unity Wrote: Would you think the bending in space time, induced by mass. Is equal or generated energy in time/space?

    I believe there is a reciprocal phenomenon in time/space, if you are referring to Ra's version of "time/space" which is the analog of "space/time". But it would be hard to articulate, because time/space is basically the exact opposite of space/time, and what we know as physics have an intangible counterpart in that realm, which would probably be difficult to quantify, because of the abstraction of it. However, where space/time stops and time/space starts is the speed of light barrier in my opinion. Supraluminal velocities. It is a good question, I wish I knew.
    [+] The following 2 members thanked thanked anagogy for this post:2 members thanked anagogy for this post
      • RitaJC, Infinite Unity
    Infinite Unity (Offline)

    Life Through Death
    Posts: 1,422
    Threads: 15
    Joined: Apr 2015
    #9
    01-28-2019, 08:33 AM
    I believe the barrier is light speed as well.

      •
    AnthroHeart (Offline)

    Anthro at Heart
    Posts: 19,119
    Threads: 1,298
    Joined: Jan 2010
    #10
    01-28-2019, 11:18 AM
    I thought there was no movement at all in time/space.

      •
    anagogy Away

    ἀναγωγή
    Posts: 2,775
    Threads: 42
    Joined: Jun 2009
    #11
    02-03-2019, 06:22 PM (This post was last modified: 02-03-2019, 06:23 PM by anagogy.)
    (01-28-2019, 11:18 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: I thought there was no movement at all in time/space.

    There is movement in time/space, just no movement in space/time. In otherwords, there is no movement in the 3 dimensions we call "space", but there *is* movement in the 3 dimensions of space we call "time". Outer motion versus inner motion. But past the speed of light barrier, time stops, and then begins to flow in reverse. Whereas the tendency of the physical universe is towards every increasing entropy (an increase in disorder), in the ethereal universe there is a reversal of entropy (syntropy, a trend towards increasing order). The nature of causality changes. Because the speed of light is the physical speed of causality. Mass ceases, and time becomes infinite. The nature of cause and effect changes in time/space. Things in the future can affect the past through this medium.

    Here is a physics joke: a bartender says, we don't serve faster than light particles. A tachyon walks into the bar. [*crickets chirp*]

    But the ratio of space to time (s:t) or time to space (t:s) is not binary (one way or the other). There are varying ratios, where there is an inequity or orientation towards one side or the other. This is what gives rise to the different levels of vibration like: physical, astral, devachanic, buddhic. The planes are stratified across the bridge from the tangible to the intangible. Visible to invisible. Physical to metaphysical. In pure time, one is close to infinite syntropy. Infinite order. And you wouldn't be wrong to describe it as "still" in the extreme. It approaches infinite potential energy.

    Quote:70.19 ▶ Questioner: Were these constructed in time/space or space/time?

    Ra: I am Ra. We ask your persistent patience, for our answer must be complex.

    A construct of thought was formed in time/space. This portion of time/space is that which approaches the speed of light. In time/space, at this approach, the conditions are such that time becomes infinite and mass ceases so that one which is able to skim the, shall we say, boundary strength of this time/space is able to become placed where it will.

    When we were where we wished to be we then clothed the construct of light with that which would appear as the crystal bell. This was formed through the boundary into space/time. Thus there were two constructs, the time/space or immaterial construct, and the space/time or materialized construct.

      •
    « Next Oldest | Next Newest »

    Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)



    • View a Printable Version
    • Subscribe to this thread

    © Template Design by D&D - Powered by MyBB

    Connect with L/L Research on Social Media

    Linear Mode
    Threaded Mode