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    BlatzAdict (Offline)

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    #61
    02-27-2011, 10:36 PM
    ummm i find it iffy for you to focus on the flying sparkles of energy while driving... u might wanna keep ur eyes on the road! lololol

    Focus123, obviously you are a first wave way shower. Thanks for helping the world become a safer place for us second wavers. Smile

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    02-27-2011, 10:38 PM
    lol if you want a good place you should stare at them out of a plane! they really sparkle when the skies are clear.

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    02-28-2011, 11:46 AM (This post was last modified: 02-28-2011, 12:12 PM by sam.)
    kindly tell me more about these white sparks what they are ?
    they are energy ? universe energy or something else Aura viwer says that white particales are universe energy and help in healing during aura vison.what you say?

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    03-01-2011, 07:22 AM
    i dont think aura viewer is right. as far as i see it, there is sentient communication in between such sparks and the person experiencing them.

    it is true that they often appear to supplement one's energy in times when the person desperately needs - but that doesnt mean that they are related to any particular activity like aura vision, healing, this and that.

    it would be much more direct, and fruitful if you had paid attention to the sparks yourself and tried to understand them.

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    03-01-2011, 07:33 AM (This post was last modified: 03-01-2011, 07:34 AM by Namaste.)
    (12-09-2010, 01:44 PM)Focus123 Wrote: Is the Vibrational State Paranormal?

    A line of thought - nothing is paranormal; the term paranormal itself is subjective and defined by culture, particularly the current understanding of science. The last thing you want to be is 'normal', as defined by culture ;¬)

    Regarding the vibrational state, it's a common precursor to three things...

    1. OBE (usually random)
    2. Astral Projection (usually intended)
    3. Death

    Consider it a valid part of experiencing other dimensions of consciousness. I've woken up in the vibrational state many times, which is exciting, as it's easy to project astrally from there. Sometimes I set the intention when falling asleep: "I wish to wake up in the vibrational state".

    Regarding the swirlies, yes, noticed them since childhood. Always fascinated me! I used (who am I kidding, still do) enjoy thinking of them as 'the force' (Star Wars). But we all know Lucas was influenced a great deal by the metaphysical, hence Yoda being named after Yoga (unity with All That Is).
    I also see bright flashes - orbs - flying around the room. Usually over people's heads after a healing session or when discussing spiritual matters. Never - ever - when in an ego/material influenced conversation.

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    03-08-2011, 11:58 PM
    (03-01-2011, 07:33 AM)Namaste Wrote: I also see bright flashes - orbs - flying around the room. Usually over people's heads after a healing session or when discussing spiritual matters. Never - ever - when in an ego/material influenced conversation.

    Thank you to all who have contributed with their story and experiences which I am only discovering and reading today. It was really interesting to read!

    Just to add my experience, it is often that my husband and I, we perceive orbs in a corner near the ceiling, sparks of light or sometimes sudden rays of light crossing the room and, when that happens, we ask the other: "Have you seen that? and this here?" and the other one always answers positively, having seen or perceived the same light phenomenon. It means that there is a consensus in these phenomenons.

    There is definitely some light-reaching-us going on and, it probably has to do partly with the Earth magnetic changes (and pole shift), partly with the some cosmic light reaching our sphere, partly with getting closer to the galactic centre and its particular light.
    We are experiencing a different quality of light reaching our Earth. It will become 'normal' as more and more people are seeing them.

    Much loving Light to all Smile

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    03-09-2011, 12:41 AM
    Does anyone really know what these type of phenomena are? Doubtful. When we say it's probably due to the new-age energies or whatever, we're just speculating and really saying nothing educational. (oh, it's a 'sign'!, that makes me feel good.) If you're an intuitive type, you can at best consistently associate them with an intention or an idea. But their genesis and ontological disposition is fundamentally unknown.
    What may confound the examination further is people confusing them with purely internal effects (phosphenes) or optic nerve stimulation due to health problems.

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    03-09-2011, 09:22 AM
    (03-09-2011, 12:41 AM)zenmaster Wrote: What may confound the examination further is people confusing them with purely internal effects (phosphenes) or optic nerve stimulation due to health problems.

    that's quite easy to distinguish - such physical/physiological effects do not consciously interact with you. your thought or intent, does not get a reflection that is intelligible.

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    03-10-2011, 12:08 AM (This post was last modified: 03-10-2011, 12:09 AM by zenmaster.)
    (03-09-2011, 09:22 AM)unity100 Wrote:
    (03-09-2011, 12:41 AM)zenmaster Wrote: What may confound the examination further is people confusing them with purely internal effects (phosphenes) or optic nerve stimulation due to health problems.

    that's quite easy to distinguish - such physical/physiological effects do not consciously interact with you. your thought or intent, does not get a reflection that is intelligible.
    I know they're easy to distinguish from a personal standpoint.
    But as a class of phenomena that has no explanation, due to not many bothering to research it, it is not easy to talk about on a forum and be assured you're talking to someone who's the same page. Just take a look at the prior posts on the subject.

    There is definitely a field of activity that becomes much more noticeable with 'higher vibrations' - such as one might do prior to healing work. These also involve 'intelligent' lights, auras, paranormal phenomena, etc. I don't know if that has anything to do with what you're talking about, or with the incipient green-ray vibrations. Presumably, it's related to 'third-eye' seeing.

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    03-10-2011, 06:41 AM
    (03-10-2011, 12:08 AM)zenmaster Wrote: I know they're easy to distinguish from a personal standpoint.
    But as a class of phenomena that has no explanation, due to not many bothering to research it, it is not easy to talk about on a forum and be assured you're talking to someone who's the same page. Just take a look at the prior posts on the subject.

    same situation also apply. when familiar with a phenomenon to a good degree, it is easy to distinguish what people are talking about.

    for example in this thread, there are those who see swirlies in the sky, those who occasionally see orbs in their rooms and so on, and a small number of those who experience various flashes and sparkles anywhere - without looking into the sky.

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    03-27-2011, 05:36 AM
    (12-09-2010, 12:45 PM)Ali Quadir Wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_field_...phenomenon

    (12-09-2010, 03:31 PM)Bring4th_Aaron Wrote: A lot of people get confused about these. I don't claim to know absolutely what they are, but I think it's pretty obvious that they're a phenomenon of the physical human eyeball. (It's an imperfect apparatus, you know!) You're seeing the blood flowing through the minute capillaries on the back inner surface of your eyeballs. That's the dippy, dancing tiny dots with tiny tails.

    I have watched these tiny white balls zip around in my vision since I was a small child. When I was younger, I assumed they were microorganisms on the surface of my eye...when I re-discovered them recently after "awakening," I could tell they obviously weren't. I spent a lot of time observing them and couldn't think of any explanation, so I filed it under the paranormal category.

    Now, this theory that this is light penetrating through white blood cells would make complete sense to me if it weren't for a couple incredibly unique experiences with these things, fairly recently.

    It was a beautiful day out on the farm and I felt so in touch with nature and my true self that I felt like I was bursting with energy. I was watching these white dots race along, and after a few minutes, they started interacting with each other in strange ways. Some of them would cluster up and burst apart like a firework, then come back together. Some would bounce off of each other a few times moving in a straight line. While others were dancing, some would stop for a moment then change direction and zip off. They grew in numbers until I eventually felt surrounded.

    Admittedly, it is much easier to see them on the backdrop of a bright blue sky. But I can definitely see them against other sorts of surfaces, of varying colors and brightness, if I concentrate...especially lately.

    As I said, if I had heard about this Blue Field Entoptic Phenomenon before I saw them do such strange things, I would have no problem believing that is what I see. But I can't bring myself to believe that the white blood cells in my eyes do these things.

    I'm not saying I claim to understand what I'm seeing, but just like many other paranormal things that come with seeking, it is a subjective and personal experience that has allowed me to debunk this generally accepted theory, for myself anyways.
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    03-27-2011, 06:27 AM (This post was last modified: 03-27-2011, 06:28 AM by Focus123.)
    (03-27-2011, 05:36 AM)abridgetoofar Wrote:
    (12-09-2010, 12:45 PM)Ali Quadir Wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_field_...phenomenon

    (12-09-2010, 03:31 PM)Bring4th_Aaron Wrote: A lot of people get confused about these. I don't claim to know absolutely what they are, but I think it's pretty obvious that they're a phenomenon of the physical human eyeball. (It's an imperfect apparatus, you know!) You're seeing the blood flowing through the minute capillaries on the back inner surface of your eyeballs. That's the dippy, dancing tiny dots with tiny tails.

    I have watched these tiny white balls zip around in my vision since I was a small child. When I was younger, I assumed they were microorganisms on the surface of my eye...when I re-discovered them recently after "awakening," I could tell they obviously weren't. I spent a lot of time observing them and couldn't think of any explanation, so I filed it under the paranormal category.

    Now, this theory that this is light penetrating through white blood cells would make complete sense to me if it weren't for a couple incredibly unique experiences with these things, fairly recently.

    It was a beautiful day out on the farm and I felt so in touch with nature and my true self that I felt like I was bursting with energy. I was watching these white dots race along, and after a few minutes, they started interacting with each other in strange ways. Some of them would cluster up and burst apart like a firework, then come back together. Some would bounce off of each other a few times moving in a straight line. While others were dancing, some would stop for a moment then change direction and zip off. They grew in numbers until I eventually felt surrounded.

    Admittedly, it is much easier to see them on the backdrop of a bright blue sky. But I can definitely see them against other sorts of surfaces, of varying colors and brightness, if I concentrate...especially lately.

    As I said, if I had heard about this Blue Field Entoptic Phenomenon before I saw them do such strange things, I would have no problem believing that is what I see. But I can't bring myself to believe that the white blood cells in my eyes do these things.

    I'm not saying I claim to understand what I'm seeing, but just like many other paranormal things that come with seeking, it is a subjective and personal experience that has allowed me to debunk this generally accepted theory, for myself anyways.


    All I can say is that I think these specs are important to understand. The experiences I have had and the stories I have heard from others have" put the nail in the coffin for me" that this is not an eye phenomena.It is possible that these energy particles are a part of our future density, where to understand them will be critical to the way we live. If anyone gets a chance read Robert Monroe's book Ultimate Journey's. In it Monroe travels to the year 3000. We are able to control the weather, leave our bodies at will, travel across the universe in a blink of an eye,pick up some dirt from the ground and make a piece of corn. Good reading!!! I think it was Christ who said ,when asked about his miracles, these things and more you shall do.

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    03-28-2011, 06:10 PM
    I like this thread particularly. Why? Because it shows that every one is different and unique in a totality, that everyone has a unique manner to perceive and to have different experiences with the 'energy particles' - we even choose different names for those 'balls' of Light, 'sparkles' of light, etc. - And, this is a most important message imho. When we truly accept the uniqueness of every soul and the diversity of everyone's experiences, there is no need for looking for a 'normality' per se. Everyone is perfectly and normally themselves and, it is not only 'ok' and valuable but it is beautiful!

    There is no need to find a rational explanation for those experiences, the key is in the diversity of perception and in the enjoyment of the perception without expectation. The sharing between us, of these differences, is the true meaning!

    Bubbles of Love and Light to all! Smile
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    03-28-2011, 06:58 PM
    (03-28-2011, 06:10 PM)Whitefeather Wrote: I like this thread particularly. Why? Because it shows that every one is different and unique in a totality, that everyone has a unique manner to perceive and to have different experiences with the 'energy particles' - we even choose different names for those 'balls' of Light, 'sparkles' of light, etc. - And, this is a most important message imho. When we truly accept the uniqueness of every soul and the diversity of everyone's experiences, there is no need for looking for a 'normality' per se. Everyone is perfectly and normally themselves and, it is not only 'ok' and valuable but it is beautiful!

    There is no need to find a rational explanation for those experiences, the key is in the diversity of perception and in the enjoyment of the perception without expectation. The sharing between us, of these differences, is the true meaning!

    Bubbles of Love and Light to all! Smile

    you are missing the fact that, there are people who are describing more than one phenomenon here. there isnt only a single phenomenon that is being perceived by entities differently. there are more than one phenomenon being discussed.

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    03-28-2011, 07:58 PM
    (03-28-2011, 06:58 PM)unity100 Wrote:
    (03-28-2011, 06:10 PM)Whitefeather Wrote: I like this thread particularly. Why? Because it shows that every one is different and unique in a totality, that everyone has a unique manner to perceive and to have different experiences with the 'energy particles' - we even choose different names for those 'balls' of Light, 'sparkles' of light, etc. - And, this is a most important message imho. When we truly accept the uniqueness of every soul and the diversity of everyone's experiences, there is no need for looking for a 'normality' per se. Everyone is perfectly and normally themselves and, it is not only 'ok' and valuable but it is beautiful!

    There is no need to find a rational explanation for those experiences, the key is in the diversity of perception and in the enjoyment of the perception without expectation. The sharing between us, of these differences, is the true meaning!

    Bubbles of Love and Light to all! Smile

    you are missing the fact that, there are people who are describing more than one phenomenon here. there isnt only a single phenomenon that is being perceived by entities differently. there are more than one phenomenon being discussed.

    I am not missing that fact... you are missing my point!

    L/L
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    03-28-2011, 08:22 PM
    you have said that, people choose different names for the same thing.

    the 'ball' of light phenomenon, that some experienced in their houses or rooms or environments, are not the same with he sparkles/swirlies. these two are also different from the instant/continuous flashes of color.

    there are main 3 phenomenon that people talked about in here. there are also some other concepts or observations people relayed, but these were one-per person cases.

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    03-28-2011, 10:49 PM
    (03-28-2011, 08:22 PM)unity100 Wrote: .../... there are main 3 phenomenon that people talked about in here. there are also some other concepts or observations people relayed, but these were one-per person cases.

    There are not only 3 phenomenon; the phenomenon related are as numerous as they are people relating them... is what I am saying here. You seem to be still missing my point, probably on account of too linear an approach and too 'magnifying glass' close a reading! It is ok though! Because as I said, everyone's unique perspective is the core and the richness of the perceptions and experiences!
    Take care
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    03-28-2011, 11:22 PM
    (03-28-2011, 10:49 PM)Whitefeather Wrote:
    (03-28-2011, 08:22 PM)unity100 Wrote: .../... there are main 3 phenomenon that people talked about in here. there are also some other concepts or observations people relayed, but these were one-per person cases.

    There are not only 3 phenomenon; the phenomenon related are as numerous as they are people relating them... is what I am saying here. You seem to be still missing my point, probably on account of too linear an approach and too 'magnifying glass' close a reading! It is ok though! Because as I said, everyone's unique perspective is the core and the richness of the perceptions and experiences!
    Take care
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    i understand what you are saying, however you dont understand what im saying.

    everything does not hinge on 'perception'. if it did, we wouldnt have a workable, usable physical creation in order to do anything in. everything would be vague and shifting and fleeting.

    however the physical creation has laws and rules that govern manifestation, and as a result of this, it is possible for entities to perceive what is going on, and react, instead of existing in full chaos of fluidity.

    and so, there are things that can be grouped together, because of their common traits or relevance to the physical laws that they result from. we have group names like 'houses'. despite no two house is exactly the same. we have a group name 'cars', whereas rarely any used car is exactly the same. (actually technically no car is the same if you boil it down to technicality).

    same goes for these phenomenon ;

    there are 3 main phenomenon (so far) people are talking about - each FEEL more or less different things about these, each choose to interpret them differently.

    this is a matter of subjective perception - it doesnt change the phenomenon themselves. there are, 3 different groupable phenomenon.

    for example, telepathy is a paranormal phenomenon. but, telepathy, is telepathy. it doesnt matter how the entity feels about it or chooses to interpret it, it still is what it was, its the phenomenon called as telepathy.

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    03-29-2011, 12:21 AM
    (03-28-2011, 11:22 PM)unity100 Wrote:
    (03-28-2011, 10:49 PM)Whitefeather Wrote:
    (03-28-2011, 08:22 PM)unity100 Wrote: .../... there are main 3 phenomenon that people talked about in here. there are also some other concepts or observations people relayed, but these were one-per person cases.

    There are not only 3 phenomenon; the phenomenon related are as numerous as they are people relating them... is what I am saying here. You seem to be still missing my point, probably on account of too linear an approach and too 'magnifying glass' close a reading! It is ok though! Because as I said, everyone's unique perspective is the core and the richness of the perceptions and experiences!
    Take care
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    i understand what you are saying, however you dont understand what im saying.

    Funny how this remark of yours fires back straight to you, hahaha! BigSmile

    (03-28-2011, 11:22 PM)unity100 Wrote: everything does not hinge on 'perception'. if it did, we wouldnt have a workable, usable physical creation in order to do anything in. everything would be vague and shifting and fleeting.

    however the physical creation has laws and rules that govern manifestation, and as a result of this, it is possible for entities to perceive what is going on, and react, instead of existing in full chaos of fluidity.

    and so, there are things that can be grouped together, because of their common traits or relevance to the physical laws that they result from. we have group names like 'houses'. despite no two house is exactly the same. we have a group name 'cars', whereas rarely any used car is exactly the same. (actually technically no car is the same if you boil it down to technicality).

    same goes for these phenomenon ;

    there are 3 main phenomenon (so far) people are talking about - each FEEL more or less different things about these, each choose to interpret them differently.

    this is a matter of subjective perception - it doesnt change the phenomenon themselves. there are, 3 different groupable phenomenon.

    for example, telepathy is a paranormal phenomenon. but, telepathy, is telepathy. it doesnt matter how the entity feels about it or chooses to interpret it, it still is what it was, its the phenomenon called as telepathy.

    Just as I said, my friend... too linear an approach ... and besides, 'off-topic'!
    Linearity often has that effect!

    Be well!
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    03-29-2011, 12:31 AM
    this 'linear' thing really baffles me. the light itself, which everything existing on this physical manifestation is based on, does travel on a straight line. and really, it does travel in a straight line. its not 'circular in fact' or anything. it travels, on a straight line.

    the invention of the finity which is represented in linear form, had had enabled entire existence come into being in the first place.

    if one is taking about anything lower than infinity, there is linearity in it. only at the level of infinity the concept of 'linear' merges with whatever it is complementing and becomes infinite.

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    03-29-2011, 01:27 AM
    (03-29-2011, 12:31 AM)unity100 Wrote: this 'linear' thing really baffles me. the light itself, which everything existing on this physical manifestation is based on, does travel on a straight line. and really, it does travel in a straight line. its not 'circular in fact' or anything. it travels, on a straight line.

    Ok, let's just open a short parenthesis about linearity then.
    The truth is that Light does not 'travel' and it is not on a straight line either per se. When we perceive it in these ways, it is through our eyes sight only. Linearity is an illusion of our five senses; Ra would call it 'a distortion'. Light is perceived by our eyes which are a limited instrument of perception. Do you remember when Ra talked about the paradox relating light, the straight line, the spiral and the lenticular?

    (03-29-2011, 12:31 AM)unity100 Wrote: the invention of the finity which is represented in linear form, had had enabled entire existence come into being in the first place.

    There is no beginning nor end to what you term 'entire existence' (by 'existence', do you mean 'universe'?)! And, I would not say that 'finity' is an 'invention'! Such terminology does not work here, my friend!

    (03-29-2011, 12:31 AM)unity100 Wrote: if one is taking about anything lower than infinity, there is linearity in it. only at the level of infinity the concept of 'linear' merges with whatever it is complementing and becomes infinite.

    Ouch! The term 'lower' is also a distortion. Everything exists in the same time and space through all densities, therefore in Eternity as well as in Infinity. It all depends from where and with which distortion you look at the picture! A human being has all their density bodies together but the question is: Can you access your upper density bodies? If you can, you will 'see' a different picture... a non-linear one. This is the enlightenment point of view and yet, one is still in a 3D body.

    Ok, we are still on-topic with 'particles of light'! Wink

    Be well
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    03-30-2011, 10:23 AM
    (03-29-2011, 01:27 AM)Whitefeather Wrote: Ok, let's just open a short parenthesis about linearity then.
    The truth is that Light does not 'travel' and it is not on a straight line either per se. When we perceive it in these ways, it is through our eyes sight only. Linearity is an illusion of our five senses; Ra would call it 'a distortion'. Light is perceived by our eyes which are a limited instrument of perception. Do you remember when Ra talked about the paradox relating light, the straight line, the spiral and the lenticular?

    and from whence did you conclude that truth ?

    in Ra material, the discovery of 'finite' is named as the thing which made creation possible, and that light was made to travel in a straight line and everything in this creation was based on it.

    i remember that quote you talk about, and its meaning is not as you are describing :

    http://lawofone.info/results.php?session...c=1&ss=1#9

    Quote:13.9 Questioner: Then can you tell me how the galaxy and planetary systems were formed?

    Ra: I am Ra. You must imagine a great leap of thought in this query, for at the last query the physical, as you call, it, universes were not yet born.

    The energies moved in increasingly intelligent patterns until the individualization of various energies emanating from the creative principle of intelligent infinity became such as to be co-Creators. Thus the so-called physical matter began. The concept of light is instrumental in grasping this great leap of thought as this vibrational distortion of infinity is the building block of that which is known as matter, the light being intelligent and full of energy, thus being the first distortion of intelligent infinity which was called by the creative principle.

    This light of love was made to have in its occurrences of being certain characteristics, among them the infinite whole paradoxically described by the straight line, as you would call it. This paradox is responsible for the shape of the various physical illusion entities you call solar systems, galaxies, and planets of revolving and tending towards the lenticular.

    the paradox is in the straight line describing infinity in being infinite in a straight line. technically, it is infinite, because it infinitely travels in a straight line. but, actually it isnt, because it is only infinite in one direction - not others.

    and, as you see, everything ranging from solar systems to galaxies planets this that, are based on this.

    you cannot interpret this as 'light actually doesnt travel'.

    Quote:There is no beginning nor end to what you term 'entire existence' (by 'existence', do you mean 'universe'?)! And, I would not say that 'finity' is an 'invention'! Such terminology does not work here, my friend!

    the concept of 'existence' is another invention, that has happened with the discovery of finiteness. everything we know in this existence, comes after that, including the concept of existence, and its antithesis. these do not hold a meaning separately above infinite intelligence, because they are found in equal amounts to each other and complement each other in infinity.

    Quote:Ouch! The term 'lower' is also a distortion. Everything exists in the same time and space through all densities, therefore in Eternity as well as in Infinity. It all depends from where and with which distortion you look at the picture! A human being has all their density bodies together but the question is: Can you access your upper density bodies? If you can, you will 'see' a different picture... a non-linear one. This is the enlightenment point of view and yet, one is still in a 3D body.

    call it 'before' or 'after' if you will. it doesnt matter what you call it. ra uses before/after. the point is, there is a hierarchical order in which things came about, and on top of everything and at the root, there is infinity.

    'everything', 'existing', 'space', 'time', 'density', all of these are concepts/entities that came into being AFTER infinite intelligence discovered the concept of finity. because all of these pertain to the stage after infinite intelligence.

    leave aside the concept of 'density', even infinite numbers of universes in infinite number of octaves that are in existence, come AFTER infinite intelligence, and its discovery of the concept 'finite'. (and hence, creation of light, and hence manifestation of existence i being possible)
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    05-28-2011, 09:41 AM (This post was last modified: 06-12-2011, 12:56 PM by john road.)
    Hmmm...
    When did you seen that things i haven't any experience to see the things like that but wishes to have the adventure like this.
    Can you please explain more about that things their shape and all that me is curious to watch them even for one..

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    05-28-2011, 03:13 PM
    I've been experiencing this phenomenon for the past year or so, and after tweaking with this a bit, I've found that: One, they are not an extended function of the eye and are not physical and do not have relevance to the white blood cell explanation. Two, they are intelligent energy separate from a definite means of 'control,' strictly speaking, they don't stem from the visualizations that come from the brow chakra that I can form with, where as these have a pattern or mind of their own. Some go faster, some slower, some congregate with each other, some do not, and I conclude this because these are all experienced simultaneously and can be seen with a solid focus (try a point in the sky). Three, they aid the visualization process by providing intelligent energy to work with--they emit pure light to me, and since my visualizations are also pure light, they flow together more easily, however these two functions are still completely separate.

    This is still new to me, and these findings may only correlate to my own experience.

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    05-29-2011, 04:26 AM
    arent you seeing any flashes/swirls without looking at the sky - ie in your living room etc
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    05-31-2011, 05:10 PM (This post was last modified: 05-31-2011, 05:11 PM by Heartwork.)
    Yes, they seem to be around at all times, afaik the only difference sunlight seems to make is that they become illuminated and so more easily detectable. I forgot to mention that in addition to these white specks of light, about a month or two ago I began to detect black ones as well... I don't have any idea the significance that has, except that they both operate within the same "field." Also, nearly all practices working with this involve open eye meditation, with only a few cases of having a similar experience during closed.

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    05-31-2011, 08:28 PM
    arent you seeing any blue, green, yellow or other color flashes ?

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    05-31-2011, 09:32 PM (This post was last modified: 05-31-2011, 09:53 PM by Heartwork.)
    Apologies for not clarifying all this in the first post, I didn't expand on it enough.

    95% I would probably estimate revolve around the colors of the typical chakra system and white, with white being the most abundant. Your questions also lead me to believe you might be explaining a kind of phenomenon that I usually keep separate from the specks and involve more flashes of light that create on it's own accord, I kind of work with them in a similar way though. As for the specks, with a visual focus I can create a kind of system that opens the passive gathering of energy from these things that I just simply call energy, but another author, Arthur Powell, documents this same phenomenon and calls them vitality globules--and I assume they are the same. This is the most efficient way I've found to charge the entire body.

    The other 5% consist of rarer phenomenon while in deeper states of mind where, for example, certain specks or flashes will take shape, vibrate a much more intense light, or take certain trajectories I didn't previously think possible. My opinion is split on whether this is simply energy is simply innate within all of us, or if they're a form of being that is here to give light, but it's incredibly helpful for meditation.

    The link could probably help expand on it as well, it was neat to read about it from another perspective, but I only took parts away and disagreed with some of it.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/17071064/The-E...r-E-Powell

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    06-01-2011, 05:22 AM
    the 'energy' you speak of, are intelligent. there is a high chance that especially the flashes of various colors being the occasions in which a connection occurs in between us, and with a (physically) remote source/group. and this may be a memory complex, or complex totality.

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    06-16-2011, 01:28 AM
    Quote:unity100 wrote
    this 'linear' thing really baffles me. the light itself, which everything existing on this physical manifestation is based on, does travel on a straight line. and really, it does travel in a straight line. its not 'circular in fact' or anything. it travels, on a straight line.

    (03-30-2011, 10:23 AM)unity100 Wrote:
    (03-29-2011, 01:27 AM)Whitefeather Wrote: Ok, let's just open a short parenthesis about linearity then.
    The truth is that Light does not 'travel' and it is not on a straight line either per se. When we perceive it in these ways, it is through our eyes sight only. Linearity is an illusion of our five senses; Ra would call it 'a distortion'. Light is perceived by our eyes which are a limited instrument of perception. Do you remember when Ra talked about the paradox relating light, the straight line, the spiral and the lenticular?

    and from whence did you conclude that truth ?

    Truth comes from the divine connection and, is not a conclusion; It has always been here! I maintain that Light does not travel on a straight line because Light is radiant.

    (03-30-2011, 10:23 AM)unity100 Wrote: in Ra material, the discovery of 'finite' is named as the thing which made creation possible, and that light was made to travel in a straight line and everything in this creation was based on it.

    i remember that quote you talk about, and its meaning is not as you are describing :

    Everyone understands differently and, it is ok! Your particular understanding is part of your own creation! As I said, it is fine.

    (03-30-2011, 10:23 AM)unity100 Wrote: http://lawofone.info/results.php?session...c=1&ss=1#9

    Quote:13.9 Questioner: Then can you tell me how the galaxy and planetary systems were formed?

    Ra: I am Ra. You must imagine a great leap of thought in this query, for at the last query the physical, as you call, it, universes were not yet born.

    The energies moved in increasingly intelligent patterns until the individualization of various energies emanating from the creative principle of intelligent infinity became such as to be co-Creators. Thus the so-called physical matter began. The concept of light is instrumental in grasping this great leap of thought as this vibrational distortion of infinity is the building block of that which is known as matter, the light being intelligent and full of energy, thus being the first distortion of intelligent infinity which was called by the creative principle.

    This light of love was made to have in its occurrences of being certain characteristics, among them the infinite whole paradoxically described by the straight line, as you would call it. This paradox is responsible for the shape of the various physical illusion entities you call solar systems, galaxies, and planets of revolving and tending towards the lenticular.

    the paradox is in the straight line describing infinity in being infinite in a straight line. technically, it is infinite, because it infinitely travels in a straight line. but, actually it isnt, because it is only infinite in one direction - not others.

    and, as you see, everything ranging from solar systems to galaxies planets this that, are based on this.

    We cannot and should not expect everyone to understand the same exact things because we are each unique divine beings! My understanding of Ra's quote is that the revolving of the planets and of the cycles of life in lenticular (and besides, 'doughnut' gate's spirals), equates the paradox of the 'so called' straight line as we perceive it with the distortion of our five senses. The Light of Love having in its characteristics the infinite whole paradoxically described by the straight line... And I did not want to be too wordy! Angel

    (03-30-2011, 10:23 AM)unity100 Wrote: you cannot interpret this as 'light actually doesnt travel'.

    It is not an interpretation! The concept of 'travel of light' is a 3D illusion more precisely termed 'a distortion'. This is why Ra (and many Enlightened beings) calls the straight line a 'paradox' when describing infinity. In Truth, the concept of Light as a 'straight line' is a distortion of the five senses because Light is radiant and not linear!

    (03-30-2011, 10:23 AM)unity100 Wrote:
    Quote:There is no beginning nor end to what you term 'entire existence' (by 'existence', do you mean 'universe'?)! And, I would not say that 'finity' is an 'invention'! Such terminology does not work here, my friend!

    the concept of 'existence' is another invention, that has happened with the discovery of finiteness. everything we know in this existence, comes after that, including the concept of existence, and its antithesis. these do not hold a meaning separately above infinite intelligence, because they are found in equal amounts to each other and complement each other in infinity.

    Let me clear up the confusion! By 'existence', do you mean 'life'? By 'invention', do you mean 'creation'? By 'invention of existence', do you mean 'creation of life'? ... You bring forward the problematic of terminology.
    Light has to do with 'consciousness'! Consciousness takes many forms. And, all forms of consciousness are alive.

    I find you are mixed up with your concepts! It is ok though, I respect every one's! However, for the readers, I feel that I have to put some truth forward. At the moment, it is clear to me that you are mixing up linear words with ineffable concepts of Truth. May I suggest in a friendly manner that you connect to the Heart in meditation because Intelligent Infinity is reached in the Heart, through the Heart connection and, from there, everything is seeing globally and without words. This is not about 'being right' because words do not matter, it is about being closer to the Light of Truth with a minimal distortion.

    (03-30-2011, 10:23 AM)unity100 Wrote:
    Quote:Ouch! The term 'lower' is also a distortion. Everything exists in the same time and space through all densities, therefore in Eternity as well as in Infinity. It all depends from where and with which distortion you look at the picture! A human being has all their density bodies together but the question is: Can you access your upper density bodies? If you can, you will 'see' a different picture... a non-linear one. This is the enlightenment point of view and yet, one is still in a 3D body.

    call it 'before' or 'after' if you will. it doesnt matter what you call it. ra uses before/after. the point is, there is a hierarchical order in which things came about, and on top of everything and at the root, there is infinity.

    'everything', 'existing', 'space', 'time', 'density', all of these are concepts/entities that came into being AFTER infinite intelligence discovered the concept of finity. because all of these pertain to the stage after infinite intelligence.

    leave aside the concept of 'density', even infinite numbers of universes in infinite number of octaves that are in existence, come AFTER infinite intelligence, and its discovery of the concept 'finite'. (and hence, creation of light, and hence manifestation of existence i being possible)

    "Hierarchical order"? Are you talking about the so-called dark forces? Because dark forces have hierarchy. In Light of Love, there is no hierarchy and no 'AFTER'! There is only Eternity and Infinity. Have faith, my friend! I am not too willing to discussing distortions because I am very aware that everyone has a different timing to reach the Truth and that it is perfectly fine.

    One may read the written words and repeat what others have said or written before, but then the mind is a prison. Freedom comes when an individual gets free from the mind, the linear mind! Reaching Intelligent Infinity is done from a letting go of the linear mind. Follows a letting go of the the linear words of sentences. Intelligent Infinity is a global understanding happening from the Heart. The Heart also has connective neurons very similar in a sens to those of the brain.

    Since we are discussing the nature of Light and whether it travels in a straight line, whether it is radiant, eternal and global (which is my perspective), we are still on topic, I believe!

    Blessings in Love and Light

    Whitefeather

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