10-09-2012, 10:28 PM
(10-09-2012, 10:11 PM)zenmaster Wrote: And in some sense, it's not even the state of the soul - depending on how you define "soul".
True. But that's a whole other can of worms. I recognize it is a somewhat circular definition, but I will define "soul" as that which evolves as a result of incarnation.
Quote:If you depend on this particular lifetime to polarize sufficiently, then yes - it does completely depend on the body being viable enough to support the mind which makes space for the spirit to actualize.
Yes, I suppose you are right. But it would seem a strange plan of successive incarnation for one to have made this life the one to make the body viable enough to support the mind. I suppose it's possible... but then... what was one doing with all those other lives?
Quote:So it could depend on drinking - but probably not. We've had many, many lifetimes to build violet ray. If the current incarnation did not add to polarization due to some misfortune, poor choices for catalyst, etc it probably won't matter much - but this life and one's body could very well be absolutely essential for harvest.
Sure. Maybe I didn't speak clearly enough. If one became a raging alcoholic in this life, and thus didn't take the opportunity to polarize to a sufficient degree, then yes, alcohol could very well be the reason.
However I read the context of the previous posts to be considering the notion that one must needs "give up alcohol" or other substances completely in order to make harvest. That's what I was responding to about it being absurd, i.e. given all the work that I have done up to this point (granted there might be some possibility that I am fooling myself as to how much it actually was) it would be pretty absurd for the kabosh to be put on my harvest simply because I have a few drinks now and again.
I suppose what I am trying to get at is- if indeed there is precious little time left to do one's spiritual work, then frittering it away trying to clean every last vestige of "toxins" from one's body meanwhile continuing to avoid the inner spiritual work would be a tragic error.